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Welcome to Real Science Radio: Co-hosts Fred Williams and Doug McBurney talk about science to debunk evolution and to show the evidence for the creator God including from biology, genetics, geology, history, paleontology, archaeology, astronomy, philosophy, cosmology, math, and physics. (For example, mutations will give you bad legs long before you'd get good wings.) We get to debate Darwinists and atheists like Lawrence Krauss, AronRa, and Eugenie Scott. We easily take potshots from popular evolutionists like PZ Myers, Phil Plait, and Jerry Coyne. The RSR Archive contains our popular List Shows! And we interview the outstanding scientists who dare to challenge today's accepted creed that nothing created everything.

RSR airs every Friday at 3pm MST on AM 670 KLTT in Denver, Colorado. For rebroadcast times and podcast platforms, see our Affiliates page.

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RSR: The Best Astronomy Video Ever Made

Spike Psarris fabulous video, What You Aren't Being Told...* Real Science Radio Listens In to Spike Psarris: On this special edition of RSR, you'll hear audio from the stunning video, What You Aren't Being Told About Astronomy. Spike Psarris, former engineer with the U.S. military space program lists some of the very many observations that seriously contradict the standard evolutionary scheme for forming the Solar System.

Get the Spike Psarris Video: What You Aren't Being Told About Astronomy and his great Vol. II, on Our Created Stars and Galaxies! YOU'LL LOVE IT!

* Discover's Astronomer Attacks Psarris & RSR: Discover magazine's evolutionist Phil Plait accused Spike Psarris, of Creation Astronomy, of being deceptive because he uses the term "evolution" to describe naturalistic astronomy for, as Plait wrote, "evolution has nothing to do with astronomy." Instead of showing humility and dropping the issue, next Plait criticized Real Science Radio for our report on the spat, which included this comment: "Spike knocks it out of the park by showing the covers of covers of nine astronomy texts, each one with the word evolution in their titles, such as Solar System Evolution."

* RSR Talks About and With Spike Psarris:
- Honey Baby and Discover Mag's Phil Plait
- Spike Psarris on Astronomer Phil Plait and Evolution
- The Best Astronomy DVD Ever Made (this show)

Christianity Today's Search for the Historical Adam

Christianity Today's Fall[Update: As of Jan. 30, 2020, CT continues to misrepresent genetic science and the Scriptures.]

* Christianity Today Denies that God Made Adam from the Dust of the Earth: Real Science Radio hosts Fred Williams and Bob Enyart rebut the cover story, The Search for the Historical Adam, revealing the science and Scripture that Christianity Today choose not to include. CT omitted the many discoveries published by evolutionists in refereed scientific journals that support the Genesis account of the special creation of Adam and Eve in the recent past. Rather than their "Search for" title, Christianity Today would have been more forthright to run their cover story as, "We Deny the Existence of Adam." The magazine, founded by Billy Graham, also failed to warn readers that the liberal churches that affirm abortion and homosexuality, and that even deny the resurrection of Jesus Christ, all began their moral and spiritual downward slide by denying the historicity of the foundational book of Genesis. Christianity Today is following in their footsteps with their claim that God put a human soul into animals that had evolved from ape-like creatures.

* Christianity Today's Missing Science: Highlighted out of RSR's List of Evidence for the Global Flood and our List of Genomes that Just Don't Fit, Bob and Fred present discoveries that Christianity Today happened to leave out of their article including:
- a 6,000-year old Mitochondrial Eve calculated using exclusively human genetic data
- a Y-chromosomal Adam is the recent man whom every man alive descended from
- Haldane's Dilemma on the far-too-slow rate at which tens of millions of hominid mutations can propagate species-wide
- the enormous dissimilarity of chimps and humans
- now sponges genes are 70% the same as human genes
- and the newly-compared and 30% "horrendously" different chimp Y-chromosome
Actual measured mutation rates, in fact, as reported by Ann Gibbons in Science magazine indicate that, if these rates have been constant, "mitochondrial Eve… would be a mere 6000 years old." See additional scientific observations on the genetic information about mankind descending from Adam and Eve and with the bottleneck in Noah's family in Bob's article, Why Was Canaan Cursed?

* Christianity Today's Missing Scripture: As for the Scriptural implications of Christianity Today's old-earth allegation and denial of Adam's existence, Bob and Fred point out that Moses, Paul, and Jesus all referred to Adam as a literal person (which CT now denies) and the creation account is presented as historical, with Jesus reminding people that "from the beginning of the creation [not after billions of years], God made them male and female," (Mark 10:6). Today Real Science Radio explains something that CT left out of their article. Those who reject a young earth, also:
- reject the biblical teaching of no death before Adam
- reject the six literal days of creation
- reject that no thorns existed before the Fall
- reject the long lifespans of mankind's patriarchs

- reject the global flood (and the evidence for it)
- reject the origin of languages at Babel
- reject that the Earth was divided in the days of Peleg
- reject that there would have been painless childbirth
- reject that God made man from the dust of the ground
- reject the "order" of the days of creation (stars before Day 4; birds after land animals of Day 6; ), and
- by those who also claiming that "Adam" may have been an incorporation of thousands of individuals even undermine the New Testament genealogy of Jesus Christ.

ADDITIONALLY: Although more difficult to establish, old-earth professors at Christian colleges also reject many other biblical teachings, including the following list. 2014 Update: A Denver Bible Church college student (let's call him Josh) just graduated from a well-respected Christian college said that his "conservative" alma mater, like most religious colleges and like Christianity Today, believes in an old earth. Josh said that regarding the typical Christian college professor of Old Testament or science, because they reject the young earth teaching of Genesis, there are many historical events reported in the Bible that they never affirm in their publications nor in their classrooms. For example, typical old-earth Christian college professors also:
- reject the Exodus (rsr.org/exodus#chris-heard)
- reject the fall of Jericho (even against powerful archaeological confirmation as at rsr.org/jericho)
- reject the historicity even of Joshua's battles
- reject the ancestry of Abraham through Shem and Noah, to Adam
- reject the book of Jonah, and
- reject many other events that the Bible presents not as parables or symbols but as actual history. And as the foundation goes, so goes the temple of the house of God, and eventually "Christian" graduates and future ministers begin to see even the resurrection of Christ as a metaphor.

* New Testament References to Adam: By the inspiration of the Holy Spirit three New Testament authors mention the first man, Adam, eight times, in Luke 3:38; Romans 5:12, 14; 1 Corinthians 15:22, 45, 1 Timothy 2:13, 13, and Jude 1:14 and Eve twice, in 2 Corinthians 11:3 and 1 Timothy 2:13. Also, the New Testament twice mentions the creaton order, of Adam before Eve (1 Tim. 2:13; 1 Cor. 11:12), and twice teaches us that mankind inherited sin through the rebellion of the first man (Rom. 5:12-19, 1 Cor. 15:21-22), and twice it records Jesus dating His creation of Adam and Eve, "at the beginning", when God "made them male and female" (Matthew 19:4), "from the beginning of the creation" (Mark 10:6).

* New Testament Flood References: Consider also that the New Testament presents Noah's Flood as an historical event.
- Jesus, Peter, and Hebrews all mention Noah by name with Peter reminding us that only "eight people" survived the flood
- God "did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly" (2 Peter 2:5)
- "the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water" (1 Peter 3:20)
- [Ahead of the uniformitarianism of Charles Lyell & Charles Darwin] Peter warned about the claim that "all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation. For this they willfully forget... the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water" (2 Peter 3:4-6)
- "Noah, being divinely warned of things not yet seen, moved with godly fear, prepared an ark for the saving of his household," (Hebrews 11:7)
- Jesus Himself described the world "before the flood," with the majority ignoring God, "until the day that Noah entered the ark, and... the flood came and took them all away" (Mat. 24:38-39)
- Luke also records Jesus stating that "Noah entered the ark... the flood came and destroyed them all" (Luke 17:27)

Genesis Flood References: The first book of Moses explicitly describes a global flood which drowned all but eight humans, covered the tops of the mountains, required the building of a massive ark to save a breeding pair of all birds (unnecessary in a local flood) and every kind of land animal; Moses uses the word "all" many times for all the mountains under heaven covered, all flesh died, all living things were destroyed from the earth, etc. with the Genesis 6 - 8 flood account providing dozens of instances emphasizing the flood's global and comprehensive extent. Further, God promised to never flood the world again (Gen. 9:15), a broken promise if Noah's flood was local.

* New Testament References to Genesis: As pointed out by Henry Morris in The Remarkable Birth of Planet Earth, every New Testament author refers to at least one of the first eleven chapters and Jesus Christ Himself referred to each of the first seven chapters of the book of Genesis. We expect to list those here sometime in 2021.

* Additional Old Testament Flood References: A complete list of Old Tetament flood references is planned for 2021, as an addendum to our List of All Bible Verses Mentioning Creation. Creation, by the way, is mentioned in twenty six books of the Bible, in 66 chapters and 208 verses, and as discussed at rsr.org/passages#flood-allusions, interestingly, ten creation passges make allusions to the global flood!

* Scientific Evidence for the Global Flood: See rsr.org/flood-evidence.

* God Exists; Secular Theories of Origins Do Not: As filmed on the Pepperdine Campus...

* On the Day-Age and Gap Theories: See rsr.org/gap-theory.

* Consider Also from Old-Earth Christian Apologist John Lennox:

Preview of the Christianity Today Article on Adam

Time-Saver Programming Note: This program is a preview of next week's program, so listeners who skip this program will not miss anything. (That's a euphemistic way of us saying that this show wasn't so hot :)

* Christianity Today Denies that God Made Adam from the Dust of the Earth: Real Science Friday co-hosts Fred Williams and Bob Enyart look at the cover story, The Search for the Historical Adam, in the current edition of Christianity Today. The liberal churches that affirm abortion and homosexuality and that deny the resurrection of Jesus Christ -- all began their moral and spiritual slide by denying the historicity of the foundation book of Genesis. Christianity Today is following in their footsteps with their claim that God put a human soul into animals that had evolved from ape-like creatures.Ape-like creatures that didn't evolve into men

* Looking at CT's Scripture and Science: As for the Scripture, Bob and Fred point out that Moses, Paul, and Jesus all referred to Adam as a literal person and the creation account is presented as historical, with Jesus reminding people that God made them, male and female, at the beginning of creation. And they explain something that Christianity Today leaves out of their article, that that those who do away with a literal Adam, also do away with the biblical teachings of no death before Adam, the six literal days of creation, the global flood, the order of the days of creation, and they even weaken the veracity of the genealogy of Jesus Christ as given in the New Testament. As for the science, something that Christianity Today's editors left out of the discussion, is this information about Adam and Eve from the KGOV.com/writings article titled, Why Was Canaan Cursed?

Baraminologist Dr. Roger Sanders on RSR

* Baraminology Author in Studio: Real Science Radio interviews Dr. Roger Sanders of Bryan College. What's baraminology? It's a furtherance of Adam's first task, which was to name the animals, into a classification of living things within the framework of the created kinds as described in Genesis. The anti-creationist National Center for Science Education begrudgingly states, in an article by Alan Gishlick, that creationist researchers including Dr. Sanders, "practice a form of systematics, called 'baraminology', and for creationist science it is surprisingly rigorous and internally consistent." RSR is happy to accept that compliment on behalf of creationists and reminds our audience of Bob's debate with the NCSE president Eugenie Scott that you can watch on DVD or listen to right here on Real Science Radio at KGOV.com. Also briefly discussed was biogeography which studies the dispersion of animals around the world, where Darwinists are beginning to more readily agree with creationists about the transport of countless animals far distances across ocean currents on floating log mats (with the biblical creationists alone acknowledging that this occurred after the global flood, all within less than the past 5,000 years). Update: In 2012 for financial reasons Bryan College closed their Center for Origins Research.

* Is there a Genetic Bottleneck in Land Animals? Because a global flood destroyed almost all land animals and birds only thousands of years ago, Bob asked Dr. Sanders if marine animals have been shown to have greater genetic diversity than bird and land animals. Dr. Sanders recalled that a study done on land and marine turtles showed greater genetic diversity among sea turtles. Evolutionists believe that sea turtles evolved from land-dwelling creatures, so if evolution were true, genetically we would expect to see the opposite of what we expect to see from the perspective of a recent global flood. This Turtle Topic reminds RSR of one of our recurring themes, that the fossil records documents stasis rather than evolution, as in this quote from Bob Strauss on turtle evolution: "the basic turtle body plan arose very early in the history of life (during the late Triassic period), and has persisted pretty much unchanged down to the present day... Paleontologists still haven't identified the EXACT family of prehistoric reptiles that spawned modern turtles and tortoises, but they do know one thing: it wasn't the placodonts." [RSR capitalized the letters of "exact" to call attention to this common style of the misleading use of words by evolutionists.]

* Research Project and Genetic Diversity Prediction between Clean and Unclean Animals: Biblically speaking, the difference between "clean" and "unclean" animals is that the clean animals were acceptable by God for sacrifice, and so God instructed Noah to bring seven pairs of clean animals on the ark. As a result, even though some of these clean animals would have been offered up as sacrifices, a creationist prediction of Real Science Radio is that there may be greater genetic diversity among today's descendants of the clean land animals as compared to unclean land animals.

* As Few as 1,000 Pairs of Animals on the Ark: In 2013, Real Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams discussed a wonderful article about the significant research project underway at Answers in Genesis (and other creation research centers) to identify the created kinds among land animals so that we can learn more about our Creator God, the creatures He made, and about how much work it would have been for Noah's family to clean up after all those critters! Of course, per God's criteria reported by Moses in Genesis, no bacteria, insects, plants, nor fish had to be brought onto the ark. So roughly speaking, by generally counting "kinds", and usually not "species", current research indicates that there could have been as few as 2,000 animals on the ark.

Which technologies needed Darwin or an old earth?

Nicholas Steno flood geologist 1638-1686* Two Wild Claims by Whorton and Roberts: Real Science Radio co-hosts Fred Williams and Bob Enyart debunk two wild claims made in an old-earth book, "Holman QuickSource Guide to Understanding Creation" by Mark Whorton and Hill Roberts.

* Wild Claim #1: Flood Geology began with Ellen White (1827 – 1915) and the Seventh Day Adventists. Somehow the authors missed the entire history of geology including the previous centuries of writings by leading geologists, quotes from early church fathers, and the history of the world's oldest national scientific organization, the Geological Society of London. Terry Mortenson, with a PhD in the history of geology from Coventry University in England, has an excellent article Where Did the Idea of "Millions of Years" Come From? that reports on the young-earth flood geology view that prevailed before Charles Lyell. An article on the Geological Society's website, God and the Geologists, doesn't mention Ellen White but does state that a book, Geology and Religion, published to coincide with their 200th anniversary, summarizes the modern history of geology saying that: "A prominent topic is that of ‘Flood Geology’. Originating alongside geology itself in the 18th Century, the theory held that the current geological features of the Earth have resulted from a global flood, as described in the Genesis account of Noah’s Ark. The theory was a popular one for centuries... Now, however, flood geology is undergoing resurgence as part of the increasingly prevalent creationist movement."

RSR: The Origin of Fingerprints

Neo-darwinism cannot create fingerprints* Can Darwinism Make Fingerprints? RSR co-hosts Fred Williams and Bob Enyart talk about the evolution of Real Science Radio and the origin of fingerprints!

* Can Fingerprints Evolve? The fingerprint information management and maintenance system goes so far beyond and is so completely irrelevant to any physical gripping benefit of providing ridges for tactile functionality, that fingerprints could not evolve by the neo-Darwinist mechanisms of mutation and natural selection. Fingerprints in gorillas, chimpanzees, koala bears, and humans cannot evolve by any Darwinian process because no survival benefit in the wild could be conferred by any of the functional requirements in its complex multipart system. Having no theoretical survival value means that evolution is back to pre-Darwinian days before natural selection was considered as a possible way of answering the mathematical impossibility of evolution. Consider however that the following system requirements provide no survival value, thus the large commitment of resources to develop and transmit this system cannot be explained by evolution:

  1. the system draws the design by an algorithm that develops and maintains the information for the pattern
  2. the system ensures that the pattern will survive and even re-emerge through most injuries to fingers
  3. the system will vary the design between billions of individuals
  4. the system draws the prints not as raster images (in pixels), but with mathematically defined vectors
  5. the system begins to implement the unique prints in early fetal development
  6. the fingerprints will scale as tiny digits grow from infancy, through puberty and into adulthood
  7. the system, unlike random static on a TV screen (or sand on sandpaper),
      varies the design in human-discernible patterns
  8. the system will produce raised surfaces consisting primarily of continuous curved lines
  9. the system will produce non-intersecting pathways that create clean patterns without crossed lines
10. the process of skin formation including the programmed death of billions of skin cells to constantly reform
      the epidermis will not alter the programmed pattern.

RSR: Plants Know Up from Down

Heavy cell structures sink showing the plant which way is up* Why Don't All People Know the Same? Not all people know up from down, but plant cells do. Real Science Friday co-hosts Fred Williams and Bob Enyart discuss plants, beetles, and sharks as described in Ken Ham's current Answers magazine!

* Plant Cells Make Statoliths that Sink: How does the root know which way is down, and the stem know which way is up? Plant cells make statoliths that are dense and heavy (lith is a Greek root, pun intended, for stone) and when the statoliths sink, like a stone, the plant knows which was is up and which way is down. Isn't God cool?

Bob piloting chopper during attack... not!* Beetles Seek Out Forest Fires: The Melanophila beetle can sense a forest fire by detecting a few parts per billion of smoke particles and by it's infrared capability that exceeds the military's in sophistication! Bob describes using an infrared vision system in the Apache helicopter.

* Did You Know that Sharks are Warm-Blooded? If not, don't feel bad. Neither did they! Sharks can maintain their body temperatures up to 38 degrees Farenheit higher than the surrounding ocean temperature. And they do this using the same technology used in giraffes, camels, and birds. 

RSR: Now Soft Tissue from a Mosasaur!

Original biological material from an allegedly 70M yr old Mosasaur* Iron-clad Dinosaur-era Soft-tissue: 2019 Update: See our acclaimed list at bflist.rsr.org.

Co-hosts Fred Williams and Bob Enyart talk about last week's stunning peer-reviewed report of yet another soft-tissue discovery (after such finds from a T. rex, a hadrosaur, and archeopteryx). This time scientists from secular universities in Europe and America use sophisticated  techniques to rule out modern contamination, and conclude that original biological material exists from a relatively small bone from an allegedly 70-million year old extinct marine reptile called a Mosasaur. The electron microscope was invented in 1931 and even from 1903 the ultramicroscope could study objects smaller than the wavelength of light. Thus more than a century of lost opportunity has passed with perhaps millions of fossils improperly handled because evolutionary bias has been so stifling that countless scientists likely never even considered looking for original biological material.

RSR: Faster in Air than on Sand

Lizard running with two feet in the air* Lizards, Footprints, Rafts, and Buckyballs: Co-hosts Fred Williams and Bob Enyart talk about articles from the latest issue of Creation magazine, April - June 2011.

* Lizards Move Quickly on Sand: Engineers at the Georgia Institute of Technology have copied God's design for lizard locomotion on sand and transferred it to a robot called SandBot. The lizards, like other creatures, move their limbs so quickly as they run that they would get stuck in the sand except that, as God designed them, while their feet are in contact with the sand, those limbs move relatively more slowly to provide stability, and when they pick their foot up, they move much more quickly through the air to get them in place for the next step. (If this is confusing, just watch Bob demonstrate it on today's program :)  The discipline of biomimetics helps to create technologies to improve the lives of human beings by copying God's design in nature, such as by the automobile industry from the boxfish, and quieter computer fans inspired by owls wings!

Clarence Darrow ACLU OK with Obama as Closer to Ape

Darwin's Favored (human) Races* Real Science Radio: Biggest ACLU Case Ever Depicted in Racist Photo of Obama with Apes: Bob Enyart criticizes  the white tea party activist who distributed a despicable racist image (see below) of Barack Obama being closely related to apes. However, during the Scopes Monkey Trial the ACLU and Clarence Darrow advocated for the public schools to teach from a textbook which presented blacks and other minorities at the bottom of an evolutionary ladder which of course had whites like Darrow and the ACLU lawyers at the top. The title of the textbook, "Civic Biology," reveals the author's complicity with the Darwinist eugenics movement which forcibly sterilized 60,000 Americans and led to far worse here and around the world.