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Welcome to Real Science Radio: Co-hosts Fred Williams and Doug McBurney talk about science to debunk evolution and to show the evidence for the creator God including from biology, genetics, geology, history, paleontology, archaeology, astronomy, philosophy, cosmology, math, and physics. (For example, mutations will give you bad legs long before you'd get good wings.) We get to debate Darwinists and atheists like Lawrence Krauss, AronRa, and Eugenie Scott. We easily take potshots from popular evolutionists like PZ Myers, Phil Plait, and Jerry Coyne. The RSR Archive contains our popular List Shows! And we interview the outstanding scientists who dare to challenge today's accepted creed that nothing created everything.

RSR airs every Friday at 3pm MST on AM 670 KLTT in Denver, Colorado. For rebroadcast times and podcast platforms, see our Affiliates page.

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RSR: Plants Couldn't Evolve UV Protection

evolution of plant UV protection* Resistant Strains Predate Antibiotics, Impact Can't Explain Dino Extinction,  Gold Sinks,  and Plants Protect Against Ultra Violet Rays: Real Science Friday co-hosts Fred Williams and Bob Enyart discuss great news stories from the winter 2012 edition of Creation magazine. The guys explain why plants evolving their sophisticated feedback system for ultra-violet protection is a logical impossibility.

* Post-Show Note: Help RSR Create a Dawkins Color Vision Challenge: Following in the lines of our PZ Myers Trochlea Challenge (for which PZ honestly answered, "I don't know"), Bob and Fred are constructing a similar challenge but for Richard Dawkins and regarding a different aspect of the alleged evolution of vision. The guys are hoping to get an artist to volunteer to sketch their challenge, and also, they're eager to get comments and constructive criticism on the challenge itself.

RSR: Black holes, vision, & mammoths

* Super-massive Black Holes, Cloning Mammoths, & a Challenge in the Works for Dawkins: Real Science Friday co-hosts Fred Williams and Bob Enyart discuss super-massive structures in the universe including walls, bubbles and filaments made up of galaxies which could not be formed even in the 14 billion years that atheists claim the universe has been around.

* Bob Quotes Source for AronRa on Millions of Mammoths: In Bob's AronRa debate, the atheist doubted Bob's account that there is evidence of at least a million mammoths that were buried high in the northern hemisphere. So as promised: 

"Nikolai Vereshchagin, Chairman of the Russian Academy of Science’s Committee for the Study of Mammoths, estimated that more than half a million tons of mammoth tusks were buried along a 600-mile stretch of the Arctic coast. Because the typical tusk weighs 100 pounds, this implies that about 5 million mammoths lived in this small region." Walt Brown referencing John Massey Stewart, “Frozen Mammoths from Siberia Bring the Ice Ages to Vivid Life,” Smithsonian, 1977, p. 68 [recent 7-foot tusk find]

"There is an estimate of 150 million mammoth remains in Russia's Siberian permafrost, which covers a vast sparsely inhabited area." Retrieved from Wikipedia on 12-9-2011 referencing a 2009 New York Times article.

RSR: Bacteria Smarter than Fish

* Fossils, Bacteria, & Life Based on Information: Real Science Friday co-hosts Fred Williams and Bob Enyart discuss whale fossils in Chile, jellyfish fossils in Minnesota and dinosaurs in Mongolia and how they were deposited by a water catastrophe.  Bacteria have amazing abilities to work together to find food.  Scientists invent the lightest material on earth. A listener asks Bob to explain more on how life is information based as opposed to carbon based as was discussed in the AronRa debate.

* Fossil Graveyards: A new find of whale fossils in Chile leads scientists to theorize that they may have been buried in their mass grave by an earthquake or a storm.  Is this a viable theory or is there an alternate theory of this mass burial?  Consider jellyfish fossils in Minnesota, dinosaurs in Mongolia, petrified forests and the evidence for a water catastrophe.

* Bacteria's Amazing Abilities: Professor Eshel Ben-Jacob of Tel Aviv University in his Microbes Mind Forum found that bacteria are amazingly efficient at finding the best path towards food,  work together to avoid harm and swarm together like fish.

* Life is Information Based: Is what you are reading on this page determined by the structure of the pixels and the electronics or is it the information imbedded within?  Just as the ink on a written page has no information to determine a design, carbon doesn't determine the design of life.  It is the information inherent in the genetic code which defines the life of an organism.

RSR: Anti-Creationist AronRa vs. Bob Enyart Pt. 6

* Bob Enyart in Round Two with AronRa - Pt 3: Discussing YouTube videos #1 and #3 of the series titled, The Foundational Falsehoods of Creation, Bob continues his discussion with one of the web's leading anti-creationists, AronRa.

RSR: Anti-Creationist Aron Ra vs. Bob Enyart Pt. 5

* Bob Enyart in Round Two with Aron Ra: Discussing YouTube videos #1 and #3 of the series titled, The Foundational Falsehoods of Creation, Bob continues his discussion with one of the web's leading anti-creationists, Aron Ra.

* See Also: Our RSR Aron Ra page and our six-round RSR written debate with Aron Ra.

* Millions of Mammoths Doubted by Aron: In today's show, Aron Ra doubted Bob's recollection that there is evidence of at least a million mammoths that were buried high in the northern hemisphere. So here is the documentation that Bob promised:

"Nikolai Vereshchagin, Chairman of the Russian Academy of Science’s Committee for the Study of Mammoths, estimated that more than half a million tons of mammoth tusks were buried along a 600-mile stretch of the Arctic coast. Because the typical tusk weighs 100 pounds, this implies that about 5 million mammoths lived in this small region." Walt Brown referencing John Massey Stewart, “Frozen Mammoths from Siberia Bring the Ice Ages to Vivid Life,” Smithsonian, 1977, p. 68 [A recent 150-pound, 7-foot tusk was found 110 miles north of the Arctic Circle where, today, for five months of the year the high temperature is lower than freezing, and for six months of the year the low is less than 0 degrees F, but during the ice age would have been even much colder!]

"There is an estimate of 150 million mammoth remains in Russia's Siberian permafrost, which covers a vast sparsely inhabited area." Retrieved from Wikipedia on 12-9-2011 referencing a 2008 New York Times article

[Update: Within 24 hours of posting this source, a Wikipedia editor removed that reference (as happens, as with our KGOV.com/math show), so here's the original 2008 NY Times article, Trade in mammoth ivory... flourishes.]

RSR's Fred Williams Weighs in on AronRa

Bob says, "You've GOT TO SEE this science DVD!"* Bob Enyart and Fred Williams Analyze the AronRa Interview: Real Science Radio co-host Fred Williams talks to Bob Enyart about the series of RSR programs with atheist and evolutionist AronRa.

Today's Resource: Check out this stunning DVD, Living Fossils by Dr. Carl Werner. You'll LOVE IT! You owe it to yourself, and your loved ones, to watch this DVD! Whether a shark, leaf, or crab, living fossils are a challenge for evolutionary theorists and create a fascinating debate among scholars. Do they indicate a younger earth than thought, placing the millions of years timeline of evolution in question? Or do they represent a deep mystery? And if you enjoy the science you hear about on our RSR radio shows, you'll really love all the books, audio, and DVD science materials in our online store's Science Department or just call us at 1-800-8Enyart (836-9278).

RSR: Anti-Creationist AronRa vs. Bob Enyart Pt. 4

* Bob Enyart's Round Two Interviews with AronRa: On the Foundational Falsehood videos, specifically #1 and #3, Bob begins a new round of programs with one of the web's leading anti-creationists, AronRa.

RSR: Anti-Creationist AronRa vs. Bob Enyart Pt. 3

* Bob Enyart Interviews AronRa: Continuing with AronRa's Foundational Falsehood videos, Bob talks to one of the web's leading anti-creationists. In today's program, AronRa denies the existence of dinosaur soft tissue, and he rejects Bob's argument that a lack of evidence would not prove the negative, as in today's discussion regarding whether or not the universe has a center.

* See our List of Soft Tissue Deniers: at rsr.org/science-deniers

* AronRa Unaware of Widespread and Confirmed Dinosaur Tissue Finds: Evolutionists should be excited and up-to-date about what may be among the top biological discoveries of the 21st century: the widespread finds and confirmation of original dinosaur soft tissue! Instead, as is common, even with leading evolutionists (like PZ Myers who said the same when recently addressing our RSR Trochlea Challenge), they tend to be unread and out-of-date on the topic, and therefore claim that the many finds are some kind of contamination like "biofilm," which would be a more recently-formed bacterial residue. Here's the exchange, as transcribed from this 1.5 minute segment (starting 27 minutes into today's program):

Bob Enyart: The soft-tissue that we find, the Tyrannosaurus Rex that we've got original biological material [from, and] then they found it in a Mosasaur that's [allegedly] 80 million years old. Then they found it in...
AronRa: You don't have original biological material.
Bob Enyart: Yes you do.
AronRa: No you don't. I've read Schweitzer's paper [Mary S., Jack Horner, etc. [Proc. Bio. Sci. 2007]. I suggest you review it.
Bob Enyart: Well you need to read the last five years worth of refereed scientific journals including from everywhere... in Nature, Science, PLoS -- Public Library of Science, [Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, etc.]
AronRa: [dismissive laughter]
Bob Enyart: Ten universities [and institutes] just published a report, in the U.S. and [Europe], leading universities, I can list them for you, saying we have absolutely ruled out contamination. This is not biofilm. This is original...
AronRa: Are you going to argue that you have blood cells? ... I'm not even going to argue this for the moment. I've covered this in my series.
Bob Enyart: It's out-of-date. Because there are now dozens of institutions [acknowledging the studies]. They're finding biological tissue, dinosaur tissue.

RSR: Anti-Creationist AronRa vs. Bob Enyart Pt. 2

* Bob Enyart Interviews AronRa: Continuing with the Foundational Falsehood videos, Bob has a conversation with one of the web's leading anti-creationists, AronRa.

* RSR AronRa Conversations with creationist Bob Enyart:
- AronRa and Enyart: Pt. 1
- AronRa and Enyart: Pt. 2 (this show)
- AronRa and Enyart: Pt. 3
- AronRa and Enyart Begin Round Two: Pt. 4
- Fred Williams of RSR Weighs in on AronRa
- AronRa and Enyart: Pt. 5
- AronRa and Enyart: Pt. 6
- AronRa and Enyart: Pt. 7

* AronRa Wrong about Bible Claiming Earth Covered by a Dome: AronRa claims at 7:02 into his 3rd Foundation Falsehood, "If the Bible is interpreted literally, then it is clear that its authors believed that the world was a flat disc, which was originally said to be covered by a giant crystal dome." That popular atheist misrepresentation of Scripture would be valid if the Bible only used a certain Hebrew concept, raqia, to refer to the heavens, but if it applies that same concept to the crust of the Earth, then what is alleged to be a dome is actually the crust of the Earth, then atheists would lose a favorite argument. So, check out the RSR article, What is the Firmament of Genesis 1:8? or these excerpts:

Raqia is the noun from the verb raqa meaning being hammered or spread out, as in working metal into a thin sheet or plate. "They beat (raqa) the gold into thin sheets" (Exodus 39:3). "The goldsmith overspreads (raqa) it with gold" (Isaiah 40:19; i.e., gold-plated). Similarly, God overspread the waters of the earth with the plates of the earth's crust, i.e., the firmament, what Walt Brown calls hydroplates. For "God made the firmament (raqia), and divided the waters which were under the firmament (raqia, the crustal plates) from the waters which were above the firmament" (Genesis 1:7).
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Firmament (raqia) is used "of the heavens" commonly and eleven times the Bible speaks of God stretching out the heavens... Another three times the Bible says that God raqa the earth itself. This shows, unlike as stressed [by atheists], that raqia very naturally also refers to the earth:

To Him who laid out (raqa) the earth above the waters… Ps. 136:6
Thus says God the Lord, who created the heavens and stretched them out, who spread forth (raqa) the earth and that which comes from it… Isa. 42:5
“I am the Lord, who makes all things, who stretches out the heavens all alone, who spreads abroad (raqa) the earth by Myself;" Isa. 44:24

Consider also Aron's false claim that the Bible presents a dome-covered flat earth. As established unequivocally by many including the well-received author James Hannam (check out Bob's interview and debate with this British Darwinist), neither the Christian church nor Christian leaders ever taught that the Earth was flat. (Not surprisingly, the president of the actual Flat Earth Society is, of course, not a biblical creationist, but a Darwinists.) Rather, the claim that the church (or the Bible) taught that the Earth was flat is an example of atheist revisionist history.

Also, AronRa and I argued his claim, which he presents as fact, that, "the Earth is not at the center... of the universe in any respect. The way the Bible depicts the Earth in relation to the rest of the universe is wrong and has been known to be wrong for thousands of years." Actually, the cosmological principle which is today's accepted dogma, is not based on scientific observation but on philosophical bias. And what evidence that does exist regarding the structure of the universe, consisting of the most extensive observations ever collected in the history of science, at least apparently suggests that Aron (and atheists generally) are wrong and that, first, the universe does have a center; and if so, the Earth is in a preferred location, near that center. [Update: See our fun 2013 program, Real Science Radio: The Cosmological Principle.]

* Hollywood Finally Gets Scopes Trial Right: Enjoy this feature film about the Scopes Monkey Trial starring Brian Dennehy (Rambo), Fred Thompson (Law & Order), Colm Meany (Star Trek), Ashley Johnson (The Help), Nathan West and Khori Faison. This great movie Alleged, available at Walmarts nationwide, is accurate to the history and trial transcript of the Scopes Monkey Trial unlike Hollywood's previous Inherit the Wind attempt. Order your copy today. Alleged is available from Amazon or pick it up from your local Walmart or order it online at Walmart DVD or Walmart Blu-ray. Enjoy!