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Welcome to Real Science Radio: Co-hosts Fred Williams and Doug McBurney talk about science to debunk evolution and to show the evidence for the creator God including from biology, genetics, geology, history, paleontology, archaeology, astronomy, philosophy, cosmology, math, and physics. (For example, mutations will give you bad legs long before you'd get good wings.) We get to debate Darwinists and atheists like Lawrence Krauss, AronRa, and Eugenie Scott. We easily take potshots from popular evolutionists like PZ Myers, Phil Plait, and Jerry Coyne. The RSR Archive contains our popular List Shows! And we interview the outstanding scientists who dare to challenge today's accepted creed that nothing created everything.

RSR airs every Friday at 12:30pm MST on AM 670 KLTT in Denver, Colorado. For rebroadcast times and podcast platforms, see our Affiliates page.

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RSR: Microbiologist Kevin Anderson on Epigenetics

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 * CRS Ph.D. in Microbiology Kevin Anderson in Studio: Real Science Radio's Bob Enyart interviews Creation Research Society board member and microbiologist Dr. Kevin Anderson about the astounding developments in genetic research, creation science, and the amazing new field of epigenetics. (Question: In the city metaphor for a living cell, if the downtown area is the nucleus, and the central library is the DNA molecule, what would you call the train schedule printed on the wall at the station?)

* Epigenetics: Our DNA, for all it's wonder, complexity, and sophistication,  tells only part of the story. Watch the two-minute video embedded here which just begins to give examples of additional layers of information that control how our genes are used. Then consider Dr. Anderson's challenge by which he defies any evolutionist to even attempt to give a rational explanation for the origin of the epigenetic mechanisms by any Darwinian means.

* Metagenomics and a 2020 Update: Using RSR's time-saving, Google-based Multiple Creation Site Search we assess that the creation community is slow in recognizing that this technology alone has the potential to falsify the Darwinian timeframe. We expect this scientific tool will become a major asset in the creationist's arsenal. Metagenomics is "the study of genetic material recovered directly from environmental samples" also known as environmental genomics, ecogenomics, and community genomics. See also RSR's 2017 metagenomics prediction.

* UPDATE: Illustration of Epigenetics: Bob Enyart shared on air with Stephen Meyers and separately, with Paul Nelson, a way of illustrating one category of epigenetic information, namely, the information inherent in all the molecular machines embedded in the cell membrane. "Imagine that Manhattan Island represents a cell, and that the main public library on 42nd Stree represents the DNA in the nucleus, and that the entire city is just completing the process of reproducing itself. There are now two cities, and two libraries filled with DNA, but also, the process of mitosis has duplicated the bridges and tunnels which connected the city to the rest of the world. Such membrane structures inherently comprise great quantities of information, which in our analogy is one category, among many, of epigenetic, non-DNA, information." We probably shouldn't describe epigenetic information as non-nuclear, or extra-nuclear, because there is probably plenty of epigenetic information with a cell's nucleus. "Non-DNA biological information", may be the best term, except that psychological (i.e., soulical) information likely transcends the biological information, and probably fills an essential role in animal instinct.

* LOOK WHAT THE LORD HATH WROUGHT! Post-show update. See this stunning animation from the anti-Darwinist intelligent design folks over at the Discovery Institute...

* 2020 Image of the Human Cell: Gaelmcgill.artstation.com, the source of this stunning image, credits the various technologies and persons involved:

A small segment of a human cell

To share the above two items use rsr.org/wrought for, "Look what the Lord hath wrought!"

* Our Dinosaur Soft Tissue Research: 2020 Update: Check out bflist.rsr.org!

Electron Microscope Lab Dir. Brings Dino Tissue to RSR

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* Mark Armitage of the CRS iDINO Project Brings in Soft Dinosaur Tissue: Real Science Radio co-host Bob Enyart interviews in studio Cal State Microscope Lab director and Creation Research Society board member Mark Armitage about the original biological tissue in a Triceratops horn. Along with CRS microbiologist Dr. Kevin Anderson, Mark traveled to the Hell Creek Formation in Montana and guided by local fossil expert and museum curator Otis Kline, excavated a huge Triceratops horn, and like at Harvard, and dozens of other universities, broke it open and... guess what... soft tissue!

For this topic Real Science Radio recommends
Dr. Carl Werner's Living Fossils video and
its prequel Evolution, the Grand Experiment!

* Come Out Tonight to the Rocky Mountain Creation Fellowship: You're invited to attend the RMCF meeting tonight, Fri., June 8th at 7 p.m. at the Bethlehem Lutheran Chapel at Wadsworth and 21st to hear CRS scientists Danny Faulkner, Jean Lightner, Mike Oard, Kevin Anderson, president Don DeYoung, and Mark Armitage on the iDINO project! UPDATE: About a dozen CRS scientists graciously stayed after the event for more than an hour to answer questions from the large crowd that had such a great time that folks just didn't want to leave. Thanks to RMCF president Ed Boudreaux and Fred Williams, Bill Browning, Tom, Frank, and everyone who made the event such a great success! Coloradans should plan to attend each second Friday!

RSR Risks Neck on Whale-of-an-Eel Story

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exploding giraffe*  Darwinists Try Guessing What Made Whales So Big: RSR co-hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams discuss the latest science news and have a whale of a time in the process. The guys talk about:
- the amazing sinking razor clam
- a newly discovered organ in the whale's jaw
- the problem that Darwinists have identifying sensory organs
    (like leg tendons and adipose fins)
- the problem evolving a giraffe's neck
- the similarity in eel and human backbones in what's amusingly referred to as "convergent evolution", and
- everything babies always wanted to know (but didn't know how to ask).

* And from Rumble, there's this: from the BEL Televised Classics monthly subscription service...

For this show, we recommend the greatest cell biology
DVD ever: Programming of Life.

* Babies Continue to Astound Scientists: First there was the Yale research that documented that babies are born with a rudimentary understanding of physics, math, and morality. (RSR talked about that back in 2010: You Go God!) Now, the University of Rochester has discovered the Goldilocks effect whereby in order for babies to be the extraordinary information sponge that they need to be to learn about the world that they are born into, they don't focus on what is too simple or too complex. Why not? Such subjects either won't provide them with enough data to learn much, or they would present too much data for the child to comprehend. Instead, the baby focuses on inputs that are neither too simple nor too complex but on things that are just right for his level of understanding. By doing so the baby rapidly learns what he needs to learn to live in our complex world. You Go God! (Remember too as at AmericanrRTL.org/Bible#Pain that in the original creation a mom would give birth after her baby was six months old, and pain in childbirth only resulted from Eve's sin because now the gestation period was lenthened, that is, multiplied, to nine months.)

* Human and Eel Backbones Converge on an Idea: Bob and Fred talk about what "convergence" really shows. Beginning with what could be considered a minor example
- Brian Switek refers to "a striking trend in parallel evolution" that produced saber-toothed cats and what are called nimravids.
- More dramatically, consider the alleged convergence of human and octopus eyes! (And just for fun, check out the squid.)
- Consider next the extraordinarily similar gene complex that enables human and parrot vocalization (yet without a similarly equipped common ancestor).
- Then there's the even more impossible for evolution to explain, the genetic parallels between bats and whales!
- And finally consider the fascinating similarity in the backbones of humans and eels as discussed on today's program. The guys also recall the RSR interview of a chiropractor about how quickly a species would go extinct if its spinal column was, say, 97% evolved. And by the way, RSR is still looking for all those intermediary fossils between invertebrate and vertebrates.

* Convergence in Archaeology Too (of course!): In June 2020 the Max Planck Society reports in Discovery of oldest bow and arrow technology in Eurasia that a...

...new study highlights that archeologists can no longer link specific technological, symbolic, or cultural developments in Pleistocene humans to a single region or environment. "The Sri Lankan evidence shows that the invention of bows-and-arrows, clothing, and symbolic signaling occurred multiple times and in multiple different places, including within the tropical rainforests of Asia," says co-author Michael Petraglia of the MPI-SHH [Max Planck Institute for the Science of Human History]. In addition to insulation in cold environments, clothes may have also helped against tropical mosquitoes [not to mention, adds RSR, that they cover up our private parts]."

While archeologists have long focused on the uniqueness of European markers of behavioral modernity, the new study is part of a growing awareness that many regions of the world saw extraordinary and complex new technologies emerge at the end of the Paleolithic. "Humans at this time show extraordinary resourcefulness and the ability to exploit a range of new environments" ...

Yes, they did indeed!

Another List Show? If RSR does a List of Convergent Evolution Claims program, we should point out that unlike "convergent evolution", what is not fake are the lines of evidence converging to falsify Darwinism! For example as at rsr.org/14c, the interaction between dinosaur soft tissue, unracemized left-handed amino acids, and Carbon 14 everywhere it shouldn't be, all together explains the true age of the geologic column.  

The Real Science Radio Caveman Show

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* DNA Doesn't Lie! Neanderthals were MAN: Now that geneticists have sequenced the entire Neanderthal genome, they have proved wrong many of the world's leading evolutionists who had long claimed that Neanderthals were not Homo sapiens. The young age of the earth, and that life had to be specially created because it is  information based, prove that Man was specially created and that there never was such a thing as an ape/human ancestor. Now, DNA proves that Neanderthal men and women were fully man, that is, they were Homo sapiens, because along with many other indicators, genetically they are closer to modern humans than two living chimps of the same species are to one another!

* Answers in Genesis Keeping RSR Informed: The current edition of the flagship publication of Ken Ham's Answers in Genesis presents a great series of caveman articles by David Menton, John UpChurch, Andrew Snelling, Mike Matthews, and Georgia Purdom, including as Purdom writes, "two modern chimps of the same species will have more DNA variation than Neanderthals or Denisovans have to modern humans." Taking the lead from Answers, RSR co-hosts Bob Enyart (above left) and Fred Williams (right) put themselves in a caveman's moccasins :) to figure out why Neanderthal (and others) lived in caves and why they looked so different. RSR believes that "Homo erectus", Neanderthal, etc., lived in caves only temporarily, to escape bad weather, etc., and they looked so different only because of ethnic differences which were often exaggerated by longevity.

* Preemptively Correcting Evolutionists: Invariably, when evolutionists get proven wrong on a major prediction, even one in print for decades, atheist and other Darwinist listeners to RSR will claim, "Evolutionists never said such a thing." Even before our RSR Caveman program aired, the guys told an evolutionist about the Neanderthal sequencing, who replied, "Evolutionists never claimed that Neanderthals were a difference species." So, to the evolutionists who post at EvolutionFairytale.com and at the BEL forum at TheologyOnline.com, before you accuse someone of making an error, it would help if you fact checked your own claim. Preemptively today, Bob Enyart's 12-year-old son Michael found this 1995 book and checked it out of his local public library, The Last Neanderthal, a book sponsored by the American Museum of Natural History. The author, paleoanthropologist Ian Tattersall, described as "one of the most respected authorities on the subject," claimed that the word "'human' is extremely ill-defined," and that, "As used here, 'human' ... is more loosely employed to refer to all primates that share a common ancestry uniquely with us, from Australopithecus on." This is science by definition. It reminds us of the evolutionists who argue that we should simply "define" various domestic dog breeds as different species. Thus, like magic, by science by definition they can then prove that speciation occurs commonly. Viola! On classification, Tattersall went on to say that, "in my view and that of a growing number of colleagues, there is no good reason to doubt that the Neanderthals deserve recognition as a species of their own." Except that they were not. And DNA doesn't lie. So Tattersall knew of no good reason, that is, other than that creationists disagreed with him. And since creationists have a better track record regarding scientific predictions, on those grounds alone Tattersall should have been more cautious. For then, he wouldn't have been falsified just a few years later on yet another major prediction from Darwinists. And finally, note the bias he exhibits suggesting that 3-foot tall monkeys like Lucy should be considered "human", while claiming that the human Neanderthal should be an entirely different species!

RSR: List of Genomes that Just Don't Fit

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* DNA Doesn't Lie -- and that Includes the Gorilla's: If you enjoy our tradition of annual Real Science Radio LIST programs (updated for the 2013 schedule):

January: List of Not So Old Things
March: List of Evidence Against the Big Bang
May: List of Peer-reviewed Dino Soft Tissue Papers
July: List of Answers to Hydroplate Objections
Aug: List of Scholars Doubting Darwin and the Big Bang
Sept: List of the Fine Tuning of Creation
Oct: List of Carbon 14 Where it Shouldn't Be
Nov: List of Genomes that Just Don't Fit including ORFan genes! :)
Dec: List of Fresh Fossils (preview at ICR).

...then you might like our new List of Genomes that Just Don't Fit! For the genomes march on. Now, it turns out that 15 percent of the gorilla genome is closer to humans than to chimps! Bob Enyart and RSR co-host Fred Williams point out that for many decades Darwinists have claimed that humans are closest to chimpanzees. So this throws yet another monkey wrench into the theory of evolution. As Nature reports this year, the gorilla genome has "puzzling surprises" for, "The standard view of the great-ape family tree is that humans and chimps are more similar to each other than either is to the gorilla — because chimps and humans diverged more recently. But, 15% of human genes look more like the gorilla version than the chimp version." The guys also review the enormous and unpredicted difference between the human Y chromosome and the chimp Y, and the human genome generally with the published comparisons of the sponge genome, a worm, and the kangaroo genome!

* Loose Fitting Genes: (see sources and details below)
- Horse DNA is closer to bats than to cows
- Mouse DNA is the same as 80% of the human genome
- Sponges share 70% of human genes including for nerves and muscles
- Kangaroo DNA unexpectedly contains huge chunks of the human genome
- Gorilla DNA is closer to humans than chimps in 15% of the genome
- Neanderthal DNA is fully human, closer than a chimp is to a chimp
- The chimp Y chromosome is "horrendously different" from our 'Y'
- The human Y is astoundingly similar all over the world lacking the expected mutational variation
- Mitochondrial Eve "would be a mere 6000 years old" by ignoring chimp DNA and calculating by mutation rates
- Roundworms have far more genes than Darwinist predictions,19,000, compared to our 20,500 genes
- The flatworm man-bug "ancestor" genome has "alarmed" evolutionists and is now dislodged from its place at the base.
- Snake DNA contains a quarter of the cow genome
- An elephant shrew is closer to an elephant than to other shrews
- The leading evidence for Darwinism, junk DNA, is vanishing, as the journal Nature reports function for 80% of human genome, moving toward "100%"
- Genomes so challenge common descent that PNAS reports horizontal gene transfer must have "transformed vertebrate genomes"
- "Genetic diversity exploded in recent millennia" when "vast number of human DNA variants arose only in the past 5,000 years."
- Orphan genes, being discovered by the many thousands, have no relationship to any other genes, and thus provide a stunning contradiction to the reigning paradigm of neo-Darwinism!

Atheist AronRa debating RSR claims none of the above contradicts evolutionary assumptions: AronRa's 10th Foundational Falsehood video script says "Everything we see in nature consistently adheres to everything we would expect of a chain of inherited variations carried down through flowering lines of descent…" [hear it] How so? "Because the phylogenetic tree of life is plainly evident from the bottom up to any objective observer who dares compare the anatomy of different sets of collective life forms. But it can be just as objectively doubly confirmed from the top down when re-examined genetically." [hear it] Asked by Bob Enyart if the above unexpected genetic discoveries required a correction on this from AronRa, he replied, "No." Yet, the scientific truth marches on...

* Holy Cow Batman! Saddle Up: Evolutionists for 150 years, based on their story, would draw Darwin's tree of life showing a cow and a horse somewhat closely related, with bats flittering about elsewhere on the tree. Now though, after prokaryote studies took a stump grinder to the base of the tree, study after study, as in this peer-reviewed paper in the Proceedings of the Nat'l Academy of Sciences, is taking a wood chipper to the eukaryotes throughout the branches. As explained by New Scientist, disregarding anatomy and drawing a tree of life based on genetic sequencing, evolutionists are now claiming that horses are more closely related to bats than to cows. Really.

* Gorilla Ears, Octopus Eyes, and the Platypus: Evolutionists easily change their selection of what kind of evidence to use to allegedly "document" lineage, from genes, to fossils, to anatomy, to proteins, to RNA, etc., including to a combination of such, as they arbitrarily select the evidence that best matches whichever trial balloon has suggested which Darwinian story du jour is voted most likely to be believed. Regarding the gorilla, by Darwinian theory hundreds of millions of the gorilla's nucleotides (genetic letters) should not be ordered the way that they actually are, in that they more closely match the human genome rather than the chimpanzee genome. Why not, because allegedly, as repeated ten thousand times, including in Nature in 2011, "chimpanzees [are] the closest living relatives of Homo sapiens." (Remember though, Science Daily reports that "[I]n about 0.5% of our genome, we are closer related to orangutans than we are to chimpanzees..." whereas in the Journal of Biogeography, forget one-half of one percent, the authors there claim that anatomy trumps genetics as they showed that, actually, i.e., allegedly, our closest living relatives are orangutans!) So watch for diversions to distract from the falsified Darwinian predictions. For now we'll now hear that gorilla ears, etc., are more human-like than chimp-like, and also that the orangutans, the gorillas, and chimpanzees, are all our closest living relatives. Ha! Such tactics help to maintain the evolutionary illusion even in the face of strongly falsified evolutionary prediction.

RSR: Good Little Rat, Bad Little Bat

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Looks like a batmouse* Discover Magazine Thinks Mutated Finger Is A Big Step Toward Flight: Really! You just can't make this stuff up! Ha!! Real Science Radio co-hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams get a kick out of Discover Magazine claiming that a mouse with mutated fingers, "may have instigated the evolution of mammalian flight." Before pointing out why this sounds mickey mouse to us, first consider one of the many problems that evolutionists have, which Discover admits in their article: "The fossil records show a sudden appearance of mammals [i.e., bats, which are] nearly identical to modern bats about 50 million years ago—with no transitional forms." (And with all the variation that exists among modern bats, they could have just dropped the word "nearly" from their description of Darwin's problem.)

Singer Kelly Clinger getting ready to take off... :)* Singer Kelly Clinger To Take Flight: If long fingers could really instigate the evolution of mammalian flight, we'll have to check in with the Clingers to see if Matt and Kelly have been able to keep their kids on the ground. From the Mickey Mouse Club (the real one), to touring with Britney Spears, to standing up for the Lord and the innocent unborn child, personhood advocate Kelly Clinger is a hero to Real Science Radio! As for taking flight? Kelly wrote to RSR: "Just wanted you to know that my long fingers have never caused me to take flight! :)  Thanks for the shout out on Friday!" -Kelly Clinger

RSR recommends Dr. Carl Werner's Living Fossils video!

* Evolutionists Span Logical Impossibility with Imagination: Regarding the alleged evolution of flight, which evolutionists somehow imagine their way across, creationists point out that you'd get bad legs long before you got good wings. [Post-show Update: This is one of the reasons why Walter ReMine refers to naive natural selection, which the public thinks is the actual theory, wherein natural selection causes species to become increasingly fit. As it is actually described by a legion of evolutionist scientists, Darwinism has the most obtuse and conflicting mechanisms including a changing "fitness terrain" wherein something as beneficial as legs becomes less beneficial so much so that natural selection carries the genome of a legged species downhill (instead of uphill to better legs) and across a fitness valley to find an uphill fitness slope the climbing of which produces wings. Really.] Yet, notwithstanding our rejection of Darwin, by the end of today's program, Fred's already long fingers evolved to grow ever-so-slightly longer, and all it took was the most gentle breeze coming through the studio, and wouldn't you know it! Fred started to take flight.

* Vultures, Scavengers, Dobzhansky, and the Dead Sea: From the Spring 2012 edition of Answers magazine Bob and Fred talk about vultures, scavengers, bacteria in an unexpected place, and Theodosius Dobzhansky's objection to God creating niche creatures. And the guys correct Wikipedia and explain why vultures, with "prey" that does not move, need (and have) really great eyesight! And by the way, how would eyesight evolve? (Bob's reading a book right now that claims to answer that question! We'll see :)

What Romney's Mormon Relative Says

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This is a special Real Science Radio program.

* Bill Keller, Gregg Jackson & Bob Enyart: These three Christian activists present some of the uglier aspects of Mitt Romney's Mormonism including the cult's longtime claim, as reiterated by Marion Romney at the LDS General Conference, that Mormonism uniquely teaches that God the Father was once a man who grew up on a planet similar to Earth. Weird and heretical.

RSR: Does Stephen Hawking Exist?

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* Tennessee's Academic Freedom Bill: The State of Tennessee passed an Academic Freedom Law that allows teachers to present evidence on controversial issues like global warming and evolution. Tennessee, of course, is where the 1925 Scopes Monkey trial took place and Bob Enyart and Fred Williams recall that Hollywood finally got it right with the 2011 movie "Alleged" which, unlike their earlier attempts, now accurately portrays the issues and people involved in the controversy that erupted in the small town of Dayton, Tennessee and eventually  affected the entire nation.

* UPDATE On The Mother of All Extinctions: Scientists from Arizona State University have found a very rapid worldwide change in the ocean's radioactivity at the time of the extinction of 90% of the species in the oceans. RSR will keep the audience updated as to whether or not this discovery provides corroborating evidence for Dr. Walt Brown's theory, based on the global flood, of The Origin of Earth's Radioactivity.

* "Snowflake" Clumping Yeast Evolved to Form Snowflake Clumps: Evolutionists experimented with yeast that tends to form clumps that look like snowflakes, and they assumed that they witnessed evolution taking place because they ended up with yeast that forms clumps that look like snowflakes. So, is Fred now ready to "give up trying to defend creationism?" Tune in to find out! Also, the evolutionists assume that this yeast species, perhaps what... hundreds of millions of years old by their calculations, evolved a brand new complex ability, to work together, in just the 60-day period of their experiments! Golly. That's amazing! But half a year ago, RSR reported on Bacteria that are smarter than fish. So Bob and Fred figure that the yeast in this experiment didn't have a light-speed burst of evolution but instead merely outsmarted the evolutionists.

* Bob and Fred have Fun with Hawking and Science: Stephen Hawking says that God was not needed to create the universe. To demonstrate his claim, he gives the illusion that he's being scientific but in reality he is just telling a story. The guys first compare the contradictory multiverse theory of infinite parallel universes (see some multiverse quotes below) with Hawking's claims. And then they ask if Stevie wonders whether or not anyone has noticed that he's contradicted himself, the laws of physics, and makes circular arguments?

* Did God Create Time? Genesis says that God created light and life, space and matter. But did God also create time? Bob and Fred disagree a bit with Creation Magazine on this issue and also ponder what God meant when He said that He put eternity into our hearts! See also our article on God and Time.

RSR: Best Cell Biology DVD Ever Made!

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*  Don Johnson on Real Science Radio: RSR co-host Bob Enyart interviews Dr. Don Johnson who earned  Ph.D.s in both Computer & Information Sciences from the University of Minnesota and in Chemistry from Michigan State University and has been a senior scientist in industry and taught at universities in the U.S. and Europe. Dr. Johnson has produced simply the greatest cell biology DVD ever made: Programming of Life!

*  How Many Proteins Does It Take To Screw In a Light Bulb? No joke. Actually, the scientific question is: How many proteins does it take to make a protein? The answer: 150. Hopefully that realization will help light a bulb for an evolutionist. For apart from the Creator God, the claim of the materialistic origin of life is hopelessly circular and makes no sense.

For this show, RSR recommends Dr. Don Johnson's Programming of Life DVD!

* Analyzing the Great Works of Literature -- Via Spelling: Debating RSR, atheist AronRa claimed that the study of evolution (to Darwinists, this means, the study of all life) is primarily an investigation among species of the different frequencies of alleles (which are differing versions of genes). This is as insufficient an approach to understanding life as it would be to attempt to comprehend the great works of literature by focusing on spelling variations.

*  One Dead Protein : Bob Enyart points out that even if a trillion universes all pulled together to overcome the odds of a protein forming and folding by chance, and natural processes produced the first protein... so what? All you'd have is a single, dead protein.