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Welcome to Real Science Radio: Co-hosts Fred Williams and Doug McBurney talk about science to debunk evolution and to show the evidence for the creator God including from biology, genetics, geology, history, paleontology, archaeology, astronomy, philosophy, cosmology, math, and physics. (For example, mutations will give you bad legs long before you'd get good wings.) We get to debate Darwinists and atheists like Lawrence Krauss, AronRa, and Eugenie Scott. We easily take potshots from popular evolutionists like PZ Myers, Phil Plait, and Jerry Coyne. The RSR Archive contains our popular List Shows! And we interview the outstanding scientists who dare to challenge today's accepted creed that nothing created everything.

RSR airs every Friday at 3pm MST on AM 670 KLTT in Denver, Colorado. For rebroadcast times and podcast platforms, see our Affiliates page.

RSR is now on YouTube

 

Ray Comfort on BEL about "180" The Movie

* No Comfort for the Abortionists: Bob Enyart interviews Ray Comfort about his extraordinary video that documents people changing their minds from being "pro-choice" to pro-life literally in seconds. This is stunning and you can listen to Bob and Ray, and then watch the 180 Movie right here on KGOV...

RSR Interviews ID Author Jonathan Witt Pt. 2

* Intelligent Design Uncensored: The National Academy of Sciences' Philip Skell describes the recent Dembski-Witt ID book as "A five-star fantastic voyage!" Bob Enyart and Dr. Jonathan Witt talk through the easy-to-understand guide to the Intelligent Design controversy that he co-authored with William Dembski.

* Investigating the Claimed Materialistic Origin of the Cell: While taking the audience on a tour inside a living cell and discussing its extraordinary complexity, Dr. Witt recommends the book, The Signature in the Cell, by Stephen Meyer, to investigate the naturalistic origin of life claims. Cell animation, as in this narrated YouTube video, is helping the general public become aware of the intensive cooperation of thousands of complex machines within each cell:

Intelligent Design Uncensored Co-Author Jonathan Witt

You can get the Dembski-Witt book right now...* Intelligent Design Uncensored: Dr. Philip Skell, a member of one of the world's most elite science associations, the National Academy of Sciences, describes this Intelligent Design book by William Dembski and Jonathan Witt as, "A five-star fantastic voyage!" After reading this enjoyable and educational book, Real Science Radio host Bob Enyart talks to Dr. Witt about intelligent design and the surrounding controversy.

* RSR Interviews with ID Proponents:
- rsr.org/paul-nelson (Discovery Institute)
- rsr.org/stephen-meyer (Discovery Institute)
- rsr.org/richard-sternberg (Discovery Institute)
- rsr.org/john-west (Discovery Institute)
- rsr.org/jonathan-witt (this program)
- rsr.org/lad-allen (Illustra Media producer)
- rsr.org/coppedge (Illustra Media director, producer, science writer, creationist)

* Atheist Circular Reasoning and Eugenie Scott: Dr. Witt points out that atheists like Darwinist Eugenie Scott make a circular argument claiming that only material explanations are "allowed" in science (including for origins), and then they claim that science thereby proves that only material causes exist. Consider that Dr. Scott is attempting to use logic, which is not material, to argue for methodological materialism, which rejects the validity of anything not material. (Bob Enyart has debated Eugenie Scott, and for the 10-year anniversary of that program, RSR Exhumed Eugenie and replayed that debate in which she claimed explicitly that all non-coding regions of DNA were affirmatively known to be useless, that further research would not show otherwise, and so that Junk DNA was the best evidence she could offer against the existence of a Creator.)

RSR: Bees Think Faster than a Super Computer!

Honey bees solve least-distance problem faster than super computers* Bees, Pollen, Brains and Sea Turtles: Real Science Radio co-hosts Fred Williams and Bob Enyart report on stunning articles in the Creation magazine's Fall 2011 issue. Honey bees solve the Least-Distance "traveling salesman problem" far faster than supercomputers can, by determining effortlessly the least distance to travel while stopping at hundreds of flowers. From Don Johnson's Programming of Life book, "If the solution for 10 cities takes 10 seconds, a solution for 11 cities would take 110 seconds... for 15 cities would take over 1000 hours, and a 20-city solution would take 2,124 centuries..." Interestingly, bees would not have had to evolve this amazing ability to survive.

* 2013 Update: Ants use math to find the fastest route, according to the LiveScience report of a paper in the journal PLoS One (and they can predict earthquakes to boot)! But wait. :) There's more! Awfully good at the same thing... is mold! Don DeYoung's great article in the Spring 2013 issue of Answers magazine celebrates the high efficiency of this single-celled organism, aka slime mold, as reported in the journal Science.

* Rock from Allegedly One Billion Years Before Plants Has Pollen: Over the decades evolutionists have discounted pollen in polymorphic Precambrian strata claiming that pollen fossils wouldn't survive the heat that changed the rock, but in 2007 a scientific paper described “remarkably preserved” fossil spores in rock in the French Alps that had undergone high-grade metamorphism.

* 125 Trillion Synapses in ONE BRAIN
: Each human brain has 125 trillion synapses, and each has about a thousand switches! Thus a Stanford computer scientist recently said that each human brain has more switches than all the computers and routers and internet connections on earth! And that we are only using a portion of our brain is evidence that it was not formed by any neo-Darwinist mechanisms, because natural selection can only work on features that give survival advantages, and it could not over-engineered the human brain to give us enormous excess capacity (the kind of excess capacity that is evidenced through the accidental retrieval of latent function by savant syndrome, extraordinary capabilities which are apparently latent in all human beings).

Flat Earth Society President Is a Darwinist

Flat Earth Society president believes in evolution* Flat Earth Society President Believes in Darwinism: As reported by LiveScience and in Creation magazine's Fall 2011 issue, the Flat Earth Society's president Daniel Shenton not only believes that the earth is flat, but he also believes in global warming and Darwinian evolution. Ha! The irony, of course, is that evolutionists mock creationists by asking if we believe in a flat earth, whereas the Flat Earth Society itself aligns itself not with creationists but with evolutionists.

* Christian Religious Orders that Taught a Flat Earth: Which of the Christian religious orders through history that taught that the earth is flat (for example, which among the Franciscans, Dominicans, Augustinians, Benedictines, Trappists, Carmelites), and which of the Protestant denominations taught that, and which schools of the Eastern Orthodox, and which of the Popes of the Roman Catholic Church taught that, and which of the councils taught that, and which of the creeds taught that, and which of the dozens of colleges and universities of the Reformation, and which of the church's leading theologians taught that, including Augustine, Aquinas, Luther, Calvin, etc? Answer: NONE OF THEM. Millions of atheists, etc., have alleged that the church has historically taught a flat earth either because those materialists are uneducated or because they are willing to make false accusations. See below, the links for University of California history professor Dr. Jeffrey Russell's writings Inventing the Flat Earth and The Myth of the Flat Earth. Today though, combining the negative effects of social media with the low-quality science education of our public schools, and we have a global phenomenon whereby, for example, 10% of the population of France (a secular society) is unsure about a spherical Earth, and remember, as per above, according to LiveScience the president of the Flat Earth Society Daniel Shenton is a Darwinist.

* Stars Rotating in Opposte Directions: From rsr.org/flat-earth, for anyone suffering with this ailment, consider this. Compared to viewing it from the northern hemisphere, the night sky shows the stars rotating in the opposite direction while the Moon appears upside down, from the southern hemisphere, which is a simple cure for the flat earth syndrome.
 

The Moon appears upside down in the southern hemisphere, as compared to from the northern hemisphere.


* 2018 RSR Flat Earth Program: Addressing the flat-earth delusion, hear Real Science Radio's Fred Williams interview creation speaker Pete Fiske.

* Flat Earth, Geocentrism, and the Moon Landing Hoax: LiveScience reporter Natalie Wolchover offered to Shenton a NASA image of our western hemisphere which should lead the Darwinist flat-earthers to wonder where Europe, Africa, and Asia were hiding. And by the way, those who still claim that the sun orbits the earth have far more supporters than do the flat-earthers. For a rebuttal to that view, see rsr.org/geocentrism-rebuttal. And for a rebuttal to the moon landing hoax conspiracy claim, please see rsr.org/moon-landing-hoax-refuted.
 

* UC History Prof. Debunks Myth of the Flat Earth: Dr. Jeffrey Russell, Professor of History at the University of California, Santa Barbara, has also taught history and religious studies at Berkeley, Harvard, and Notre Dame. His book, Inventing the Flat Earth, documents that in the 19th century a French archaeologist and an American essayist invented and spread the falsehood that educated people in the Middle Ages believed that the earth was flat. RSR notes that the anti-Christians spreading this fabrication allegedly include some of Darwin's promoters like David White, and that the targets of this smear included Christian scholars. Prejudice and myth die hard, and a small army of professional historians have been unable to correct this evolutionist libel against Christians. Toward that end however, see Dr. Russell's brief article, The Myth of the Flat Earth. Russell there mentions the widespread false belief that in 1491 Christopher Columbus faced inquisitors and theologians who held that the Earth was flat, which mini-myth has been widely debunked and identified as a pure invention of the author Washington Irving.

* Isaiah: God "sits above the circle of the earth": From above, and from every direction, a solid sphere can only be viewed as a circle. Dominic Stratham's article, Isaiah 40:22 the Shape of the Earth, provides many indicators that khûg, the ancient Hebrew word used 2,700 years ago, typically translated into English as "circle", also means sphere. In modern Hebrew both khûg and kaddar mean sphere, as do similar words in other languages, whether possibly coincidental, or borrowed or cognate, as with Arabic kura (which word appears in this verse in the most popular Arabic Bible which was translated in 1865). An old German word kugel, the Polish word kula, and the Serbian/Croatian word kugla all mean sphere apparently from the Proto-Indo-European root gug. Also, the pre-modern era renderings of this  word khûg as an orb include Bible translations in the 1500s, as sphaera.

* RSR Friends Richter, Carter, & Sarfati: For those tricked into believing in a flat earth, over at creation.com our friends have published a two-minute rescue video. Flat-earthers don't trust NASA (or their scientists like our friend Henry Richter). Yet of course dozens of nations are now involved in space exploration along with a growing number of private firms. If they wanted to, the flat-earthers could crowdfund a ticket to space for their leading author who could then see with his own eyes as he orbits the Earth. In CMI's fun video, Dr. Jonathan Sarfati points out that at night, folks in Germany, in the same timezone as those in South Africa, see the North Star while those in the southern hemisphere can't see the North Star but instead see the southern cross and the same constellations as seen from those in New Zealand in a different timezone. Further, Sarfati reminds us that Jesus, being the Creator, of course knew of the different time zones required by a spherical earth, and so in Matthew 24 the Lord speaks of His Second Coming that everyone on Earth will see, even those who were working in the fields and those who were asleep in bed:

* To the Claim that NASA Can't Be Trusted: The flat-earth community can find out directly, for themselves, that the Earth is a sphere rotating on its axis. How? Well, assuming that at least some flat-earthers are not destitute, they can pool their resources and buy a ticket to send one of their own, as a civilian tourist, into space. Then, having the word of someone perhaps they can trust, they can learn the truth (and stop embarrassing themselves). So:
- Flat-earthers, chip in some money, buy a ticket, and send one of your "experts" to the space station.
- Don't trust USA/NASA? Well, ten other nations, even North Korea, and the European Union, ALL go to space!
- Don't trust governments? Well, twenty private companies fly into space, like Virgin Galactic, Blue Origin, & SpaceX.
- Don't trust the view from the space station? Well, soon enough, you can buy a ticket to the moon.

* RSR's Related Resources:
rsr.org/launch-a-flat-earther-into-space
rsr.org/flat-earth-society president a Darwinist
rsr.org/flat-earth interview with an astronomer
rsr.org/which-popes-taught-a-flat-earth (none)
rsr.org/flat-earthers-dont-take-the-bible-literally
Moon Landing Conspiracy Hoax Refuted
Rebutting Geocentrism
The Cosmological Principle
RSR's Interview with James Hannam on the medieval world
RSR's The Firmament (raqia) of Day Two.

And remember that in the most ancient book in the Bible, at Job 26:7, written almost 4,000 years ago in the time of Abraham's great-grandchildren, we read an amazing statement consistent with astronomy's latest models of the solar system, that God "hangs the earth on nothing." 

* There's Hope Even for Daniel Shenton: Even though this evolutionist runs the Flat Earth Society, there's hope for him. Consider this, from Bob Enyart's published paper, Dobzhansky: 40 Years Later Nothing Makes Sense:

[In his famed paper, Theodosius Dobzhansky's] first prediction regarded Saudi Arabia’s late Sheik Abd el Aziz bin Baz, who had recently insisted that the sun orbited the earth. Dobzhansky declared that it would be useless to present evidence to those who “fear enlightenment,” asserting that the Sheik was “so hopelessly biased that no amount of evidence would impress him” (Dobzhansky, 1973, p. 125). However, in 1985 the U.S. invited Prince Sultan bin Salman to fly aboard the space shuttle Discovery. Later, hearing a firsthand account of the evidence from a source that he trusted, bin Baz changed his mind, falsifying Dobzhansky’s prediction (Bin Baz, 2005).

* Fake Interview of Director Stanley Kubrick's Faked Moon Landing: Those vulnerable to the falsehoods of flat-earth proponents make themselves vulnerable to all kinds of hoaxes. For example, various versions of the fake interview of filmmaker Stanley Kubrick confessing to faking the moon landing have deceived many. Eventually, however, an uncut version, embedded here, was published. If you're interested, you'll especially want to see the section beginning at 12:19 into the video. Enjoy! :) 

* Friends of Bob on the Flat Earth and Geocentrism: Check out Gary Bates's video with RSR friends Dr. Henry Richter, Rob Carter, and Jonathan Sarfati...

* RSR's List of Scientific Statements in the Bible:
- We'll use the list from Battle Royale VII when Bob debated Zakath 
- God "hangs the earth on nothing" Job 26:7
- "Let there be lights in the firmament [including] the greater light to rule the day" Gen. 1:14-16
- "when you see the sun, the moon, and the stars" do not “worship them" Deut. 4:19 whereas much of the ancient world did worship the sun: Ra, Helios, Ar, Apollo, Sunna, Yan-Di, etc.
"Can you bind the cluster of the Pleiades, or loose the belt of Orion?" Job 38:31 references to these constellations in the oldest book of the Bible, written at the time of Abraham's grandkids
- The dinosaurs behemoth and leviathan Job 40:15-23 and 41:1-9
- Evaporation and the water cycle: 
"All the rivers run into the sea, yet the sea is not full; to the place from which the rivers come, there they return again" Eccl. 1:7 and "There is a multitude of waters in the heavens: 'And He causes the vapors to ascend from the ends of the earth'" Jer. 10:13; 51:16 quoting Ps. 135:7.
- "And the Lord 
God formed man of the dust of the ground" Gen. 2:7 whereas ancient man had little understanding of the elements and none of atoms and molecules. What was human flesh made of? It was nothing like fire, air or water, and not like rock or wood. But modern chemistry from creationists Paracelsus, Robert Boyle, Francis Bacon, and John Dalton, can scientifically verify the Bible’s statement that we are made of dust, the same elements we find in the soil on the ground, no different.
- The Bible, by Adam's rib and the covenant of circumcision, disproved the evolutionists' Lamarckism claim that bodily changes were readily inheritable. In Genesis 17:12 God required circumcision throughout your "generations". So from Abraham to Christ, for about 2,000 years, every male infant had flesh cut off, yet that did not make circumcision heritable. And God made Eve from one of Adam's ribs (Gen. 2:21) and yet men still have their full complement of ribs.

* Lamarck's Limerick:

There once was an idiot from France,
Who couldn't find the seat of his pants.
He said he had solved
The way we evolved,
And got millions in government grants!


- God "made a law for the rain, and a path for the thunderbolt" (Job 28:26) obliquely references the laws of physics
- God through Moses in Leviticus 3500 years ago gave practical diagnosis and treatment instructions for the kinds of infectious diseases they were experiencing at that point in Israel's history. Diagnose from bodily discharges. Quarantine infected people. Observation. Extend observation period if symptoms persist. Cleansing with water. Clothing and personal items washed, discarded, or even burned. The inherent warning was that one person or object can infect another. All of this was revealed thousands of years before biblical creationists discovered for the world the germ theory of disease. (Undoubtedly these ideas were in biblical creationist Joseph Lister's mind when he laid the foundation for saving hundreds of millions of lives! The covid brough renewed attention to the Bible's astounding wisdom including instruction to quarantine those with symptoms, not those without!)
- Etc.
As you can learn reading the writings of Johann Kepler, Isaac Newton, and so many of our greatest scientists, in their opinion, the Bible is not antithetical to science. Unlike the eastern religions which relegate the universe to the realm of maya, illusion, Scripture supports science, Christianized Europe became the birthplace of modern science, and the Bible from ancient times has contained observations, some startling, of truths only the Creator could know.

 

* Pseudoscientific Claims Not in the Bible:
- See rsr.org/geocentrism
- See rsr.org/flat-earth
- See rsr.org/dome.

* "Warning: PZ Myers blog is filled with vulgarity, hatred, intolerance, references to defecation, etc.": Myers blogged this week against our PZ Trochlea Challenge, mocking Bob Enyart and RSR friend Will in the title of his blog. To his credit though, PZ acknowledged that he did not have an answer for us (below see trochlea diagram and challenge). Warning: PZ's blog is filled with vulgarity and constant references to defecation and sex acts, and the site's comments drip with hatred toward and intolerance of those who disagree. Three of Bob's comments at PZ's blog are also pasted below.

* PZ Wrote of Our Trochlea Challenge: "...Enyart has challenged me to explain how this feature evolved. I have an answer. It’s easy. I don’t know. I don’t see any obvious obstacle to an arrangement of muscles evolving, but I don’t know the details of this particular set." And as Bob posted at Myer's site (copied also below), PZ talking about whether or not the muscle could have attached without the trochlea is an obfuscation. Of course, that or any muscle could be fastened somewhere without first passing through a trochlea. Intentionally or not, PZ is missing the point of the trochlea diagram.

Also, in his previous blog against RSR, PZ Myers went ad hominin on us so we went all ad hominid on him.

* Major Description of New Dinosaur Created from 1/4-inch Bone: Do you remember when leading evolutionists promoted Nebraska Man, and described his height, abilities, social structure, tool use, amount of hair on his body, etc., when all they had actually discovered was a single tooth? Then later, after excavating more of the skeleton, the evolutionists (including from New York City's Museum of Natural History) realized it was the tooth of a pig. Well, so do Bob and Fred!

CERN Broke Light's Speed Limit? Nope!

Bug wing vein design crucial for aerodynamics* Insects, Arachnids, and the Speed of Light & Flight: Real Science Radio co-hosts Fred Williams and Bob Enyart discuss locust wings creasing for flight along their veins, and about tarantula feet equipped with nozzles to shot out Kevlar-strength silk to avoid falls, and about the European researchers who claimed, and then later retracted, breaking the speed of light by shooting neutrinos 450 miles from Geneva to Sasso, Italy.

* Locust Wings are WAY More Sophisticated than Expected
: According to Creation magazine's Fall 2011 issue, the reason that designers of mini flying robots have not been able to demonstrate good aerodynamics even after imitating the size and shape of flapping insect wings is because, according to research from Oxford, insect wings deform along their vein structures to add flight control. Wow! Cool God!

* Tarantulas' Different Need, and Perfect Foot Design
: First it was Kevlar-strength silk. Then it was cross-linked glue molecules to catch insects. Now it's nozzle-equipped feet. Real Science Radio has enjoyed talking about the amazing design features of spiders. Now, Creation magazine reports the latest research that shows that tarantulas have many nozzles in the bottoms of their eight feet that shoot out super-strength silk to help stabilize themselves on slippery surfaces because while other spiders are rarely injured in falls, these relatively heavy tarantulas get severely injured even from relatively minor falls.

2012 Update: The claim has been retracted and attributed to a lack of quality control (at a miniscule level). As RSR reported at the time:

* Researchers at CERN May Have Shot Out Neutrinos Faster than Light Speed: The European Center for Nuclear Research (CERN) this week published a report about neutrinos they shot out of a particle accelerator at faster than the speed of light, from near Geneva, to a lab in Sasso, Italy 450 miles away, with an arrival time 60 nanoseconds earlier than the speed of light. (To extrapolate to help us visualize the speed difference, traversing a distance that photons would cover in 21 days, these neutrinos would arrive about an hour sooner.) Bob and Fred discuss this possibility, and talk about the starlight and time problem for Big Bang atheists and about a biblical answer for the Christian's starlight and time question.

World Renowned Cornell Geneticist Rejects Darwin

J.C. Sanford, Ph.D. Genetic Entropy* The Renowned Cornell Geneticist Argues Against Darwin: J.C. Sanford has published over 80 scientific publications in peer reviewed journals and is the inventor with his colleagues at Cornell University of the gene gun, a prototype of which is housed in Washington D.C.'s Smithsonian Museum. Sanford's book, Genetic Entropy, highly recommended by Fred Williams, presents arguments against what Sanford calls The Primary Axiom, that man is merely the product of random mutations plus natural selection.

* For Biology, Use 'Entropy' Not 'Second Law': Bob has long argued that when arguing against biological evolution creationists should use the term entropy, as Sanford does, rather than the term second law of thermodynamics. An American Journal of Physics paper on evolution and thermodynamics prompted Bob Enyart and TOL's Johnny to debate Entropy & Evolution. Kindly, Prof. Dan Styer himself, the author of the AJP paper, joined in while Bob was arguing that it is not possible to translate information entropy into heat entropy. Bob urges creationists to refrain from that sloppy argument, and if he's correct, then Bob has shown that Styer failed to refute the entropy argument against Darwin.

* Conversation with a Restaurant Manager: Real Science Radio co-hosts Fred Williams and Bob Enyart discuss their chats with the manager of a local restaurant who became an atheist through higher education while obtaining his degree in communications. Please pray for Andres!

* The Firmament of the Earth Had Water Above and Below: Popular atheist Brett Palmer made a 40-minute YouTube video critical of Bob Enyart's little article on the firmament of the earth. Seems we hit a nerve. As it turns out, this topic of the "firmament" is of great interest to atheists who attack biblical creation, and with Dr. Walt Brown, we can answer their objection. So see that atheist video, now embedded into our article, and our reply!

* On the Timing of the Fall: Further considerations from Real Science Radio.

RSR: Seat Belt Needed to Hear About DNA Replication

* A Nucleus Phenomenon and a Ph.D. in Nuclear Physics: Real Science Friday co-hosts Fred Williams and Bob Enyart discuss an interview with Dr. Jim Mason, who has a B.Sc. in engineering physics and a Ph.D. in experimental nuclear physics and has had a 37-year engineering and management career in defense electronics including the positions of Engineering and Chief Technology Officer for one of Canada’s leading defence electronics companies. Dr. Jonathan Sarfati interviewed Dr. Mason about physics, Carbon 14, coal, and diamonds in the Summer 2011 issue of Creation magazine. Evolutionists routinely claim that Bob and Fred mislead those who have no science background with our argument that C-14, which can only last for thousands of years, not millions, in coal and diamonds (not to mention in amber, dinosaur fossils, oil, petrified wood, natural gas, and everywhere it shouldn't be), is powerful evidence against million-year-old dates. Now, a prominent Canadian engineer with a Ph.D. in nuclear physics, Dr. Jim Mason, makes the same argument, and Bob and Fred doubt that they're able to mislead a scientist all the way up in Ontario!

* Do You Know About the Coordination that Takes Place to Replicate Nuclear DNA? We think you're going to LOVE THIS! God is SO COOL! Listen to the beginning of today's show, or check out Meta-Information at creation.com!

Rodhocetus: Actual vs Imagined (see hind limb, below; etc.)

* Whale Ancestor Flippers & Tail Now Denied by Discoverer:  Real Science Radio co-hosts Fred Williams and Bob Enyart discuss articles on Saturn and whales from the Fall 2011 issue of Creation magazine. As documented in Creation and on video in Dr. Carl Werner's fabulous evolution/creation DVDs, the discoverer Dr. Philip Gingerich now admits, "I speculated that it might have had a fluke [whale-like tail], I now doubt that Rodhocetus would have had a fluked tail." And the same with the flippers, Gingerich said: "Since then we have found the forelimbs, the hands, and the front arms of Rodhocetus, and we understand that it doesn't have the kind of arms that can spread out like flippers on a whale."

* Evolutionists Continue To Claim Rodhocetus as Whale Ancestor: The Rodhocetus story demonstrates that evolutionists have a greater commitment to illusion than to science. This creature was claimed as an ancestor to the whale because it was believed to swim in the ocean with flippers and to have a fluked tail. Now that it's discoverer admits that it didn't have whale-like flippers but forearms, and it didn't have a whale-like tail, REGARDLESS, evolutionists cannot bear to lose an icon of whale evolution. So, they continue to claim Rodhocetus as a whale ancestor, even though they now admit that they had completely mischaracterized this land-dwelling animal as a marine creature. This is a tremendous example of the commitment of evolutionists to maintain the illusion of evolutionary lineage. If that had good evidence, they wouldn't constantly cling to the most embarrassing scenarios.

* Bob & Fred Suggest the BEL Science Store: If you enjoy the science you hear about on our fast-paced RSR radio shows, you'll really love the books, audio, and DVD science materials in our online store's Science Department! The KGOV September Telethon is 7.5% toward it's goal of $20,000 in donations and purchases from our store, and $20 per month pledges! So, please help keep RSR airing and online for another year by shopping in the KGOV Store, getting a BEL monthly subscription, making a one-time donation or a monthly pledge to RSR and Bob Enyart Live! 

* Cassini Spacecraft Scientist Lists Evidence for a Young Saturn: Bob and Fred also discuss the extensive evidence against an old age for Saturn and its rings as reported by one of the Cassini spacecraft's leading scientists, Dr. David Coppedge!

RSR: Irene & Virginia: Hurricanes and Earthquakes

* Why Earthquake Shock Waves Travel Farther in the East: Real Science Friday co-hosts Fred Williams and Bob Enyart discuss Dr. Walt Brown's Hydroplate Theory as a direct explanation for why shock waves travel farther on the East Coast than on the West Coast. And also, from Science Daily, how the missing crust in the Atlantic Ocean helps to explain why rock on the eastern US (and South America) is so different from the relatively crushed rock on the west coast. See also Walt Brown's brief list of 15 Reasons Why Plates Have Not Subducted! Consider also: Inner Earth may hold more water than the seas; Deep below Eastern Asia scientists discover an ocean's worth of water; and Surface water may be only a small fraction of Earth’s water (excerpted here).

* God is Not in the Hurricane Winds: Called typhoons west of the International Dateline, hurricanes are not acts of God. No wonder so many people have a hard time understanding the love of God and His offer of salvation through Jesus Christ. They hear people describing hurricanes or some other disaster as an act of God and that easily becomes a stumbling stone, like putting an obstacle in front of a blind man. God made this world as a paradise for us, and gave human beings dominion over the Earth, and when mankind sinned, that caused a curse to envelope the cosmos, so that the perfect harmony of the world was broken, and the earth's forces are no longer in balanced perfection. As the discouraged prophet Elijah learned, "a great and strong wind tore into the mountains... but the Lord was not in the wind; and after the wind an earthquake, but the Lord was not in the earthquake; and after the earthquake a fire, but the Lord was not in the fire; and after the fire a still small voice," (1 Kings 19).  And that voice of God told Elijah that he was not alone!