Bob Enyart interviews a Ph.D. in astronomy Dr. Danny Faulkner on his book, Falling Flat: A Refutation of Flat Earth Claims. Dr. Faulkner says that at the beginning of their first semester, none of his students at the University of South Carolina were able to answer his question, how do we know that the Earth is a sphere? But, as we would expect, when he taught at a Christian high school, his new students there were able to answer his question. Danny describes for our Real Science Radio audience the cosmology of the flat earth movement including their claim about the shape of the Earth, a dome with embedded stars, and a spotlight sun and moon, and their common conflation of geocentrism with their flat earth syndrome. The guys also discuss the Columbus myth, the modern fabrication that the church had ever taught a flat earth, the Christian creationists Copernicus, Newton, and Kepler, who introduced and explained heliocentrism, and the causes of the modern flat earth movement including paranoia and the horrendously poor state of science education in the west. Finally, Dr. Faulkner and Bob discuss some of their favorite arguments against the flat earth.

* Fast Geology with David Coppedge: Real Science Radio host Bob Enyart welcomes back David Coppedge, founder of Creation-Evolution Headlines, crev.info, to discuss geological processes claimed by uniformitarians to take tens of thousands or even millions of years that actually occur rapidly! Click that link to read David's article on the examples from today's program, including rapid biogeographical distribution of marine life via pumice rafts, salt crystal precipitation in the "thousands of years" old Dead Sea (not millions), appearance of a brand new geothermal area at Yellowstone, and rockfalls (as in RSR's List of Collapsing Natural Bridges).

* See also these Coppedge-related RSR Pages:
- Cassini System Admin Coppedge on the Saturn Mission
- David Coppedge on RSR on Rapid Geological Processes (this show)
- NASA Rocket Scientist on Real Science Radio, an interview that David set up for us with his friend Henry Richter
- Fired Jet Propulsion Lab Admin on RSR
- 1983 Photos of the Now Falsified Yellowstone Petrified Trees Exhibit photographed by David
- crev.info headlines on RSR with David Coppedge 2016
- crev.info headlines on RSR with David Coppedge 2017
- RSR interviews David's Illustra & Discovery Institute associates

* Surtsey Island: From rsr.org/list-of-not-so-old-things we discussed the volcanic Surtsey Island that formed in 1963 off the coast of Iceland. New Scientist reported in 2007 about Surtsey that "geographers... marvel that canyons, gullies and other land features that typically take tens of thousands or millions of years to form were created in less than a decade." Yes. And Iceland's chief geologist wrote only months after Surtsey formed, "that the time scale," he had been trained "to attach to geological developments is misleading." For what is said to:

"take thousands of years... the same development may take a few weeks or even days here," including to form "a landscape... so varied and mature that it was almost beyond belief" with "wide sandy beaches and precipitous crags... gravel banks and lagoons, impressive cliffs… hollows, glens and soft undulating land... fractures and faultscarps, channels and screes… confounded by what met your eye... boulders worn by the surf, some of which were almost round..."

Today's Resource: Just click to order RSR's best-selling video:

The Global Flood and the Hydroplate Theory
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Real Science Radio co-host Bob Enyart presents the scientific evidence for Dr. Walt Brown’s model of the global flood, along with the relevant biblical material. Enyart also discusses Brown's opponents and contrasts both the vapor canopy and catastrophic plate tectonics with the hydroplate theory.

* How'd Bats and Dolphins Evolve This? (Make sure to start with Part 1!) Real Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams conclude their series on the Problems with the Evolution of Echolocation. This discussion of bats, dolphins, and whales fits into our List of Genomes that Just Don't Fit and our Evolution's Big Squeeze series. You may recall that horse DNA is closer to bats than to cows! Hmm. Evolutionists have the same contradiction to their theory when it comes to whales. Looking at the genes and sequencing the genomes of bats, whales, and dolphins gave researchers a shock. They discovered that not only is the primary hearing gene, prestin, astoundingly similar between bats and whales, there are also shocking similarities between them in 200 other genes! That blows out of the water the Darwinian claim that similarities can be used as evidence of common descent. Because echolocation has massively extensive similarities between animals without a common ancestor for those features, that means that the whole concept of homology to show evolutionary descent is bogus.

* Homology Dead, Elephant Shrew Alive: Similarities, even extraordinarily and complex similarities, do not indicate common descent! Thus the superficial claim that similarities in teeth, or hair, or five digits on a limb, indicate common descent. Bob Enyart and Fred Williams discuss the physical demands on a system that can produce and detect an echo coming off of a mosquito! Then, remember RSR's PZ Myers Trochlea Challenge. In like form, the guys give examples showing why evolutionists don't propose algorithms for how echolocation could have arisen by any evolutionary mechanism. Because they can't!

* Trochlea Challenge: Infamous evolutionist PZ Myers replied to RSR and to his credit, he acknowledged that he does not have an answer for our trochlea challenge... 

* Did the whole world once use a 360-day calendar? If so, why? From our archives, RSR hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams look at the Mayans, Egyptians, Aztecs, Indians, Sumerians, Babylonians, Greeks, Romans, Chinese, and the Hebrew Bible to answer the first question: Yes, ancient civilizations used a 360-day calendar. To answer the question why, one must keep in mind the sophistication of ancient astronomers. Nasa reports that in 650 B.C., "Mayan astronomers [made] detailed observations of Venus, leading to a highly accurate calendar." And the Encyclopedia of Time says of the Aztecs that, "they carried on and further developed calendrical traditions that had their roots some 2,000 years before their own time." Real Science Radio investigates the reason why the ancient world used a 360-day calendar and discusses a mechanism for speeding up the rotation of the Earth that in historical times could add 5.24 days to the year. See more at 360dayyear.com.

* RSR on YouTube: You're invited to check out RSR's 360-day year program turned into this important YouTube video:

* David Coppedge Cassini Mission Ground System Administrator: Real Science Radio's Bob Enyart interviews David Coppedge on the stunning Cassini mission to Saturn and its stunning scientific discoveries including the powerful evidence admitted by NASA showing that the ring system is young! Other dramatic discoveries also indicate that the Saturn system is not billions of years old. For more, see kgov.com/TESS and David's website crev.info.

* Transient Events of the Solar System: From rsr.org/TESS...
- Saturn: Rings are young & rapdily changing; its moon Enceladus is erupting  (hear RSR with former JPL system administrator), and ejecting both plasma and Argon 40, an enormous and impossible amount if formed as generally claimed; Enceladus "is a geologically active place" with its "Tiger Stripes", long parallel cracks, being of "young age", and its "south pole [being] both warmer than expected and warmer than the surrounding areas..." (An upcoming Enceladus mission may confirm the hypothesis that all of the heat being released could be produced by tidal forces, or not.)

* The Earth and Moon from Saturn:

Get ready to think. And brace yourself. Winston Ewert, Ph.D. from Baylor University in computer engineering, explains why Darwin's tree of life is being cut down (rsr.org/tree) as genetic discoveries  (rsr.org/genomes) confound the hypothesis of common descent. Dr. Ewert describes his insight, as published in Bio-Complexity, in seven stunning words: "DNA is the product of a compiler." The Creator designed genetic sofware, so to speak, writing DNA code libraries, and then called upon those coding libraries in hierarchical patterns as He called into existence the various kinds of living organisms. Note: We'd like to thank Yvon, a Real Science Radio listener from Vancouver, British Columbia, who recommended Dr. Ewert's paper.

Rigorous mathematical analysis, briefly discussed on today's program and detailed in Ewert's paper, is indicating that rather than genomes reflecting Darwin's "tree" (see Charle's sketch, right, although as modified by RSR), the data is far better explained by the software model of a "dependency graph". Ewert works at the Biologic Institute, a research arm of Seattle-based Discovery Institute, which, outside of the young-earth creation movement, is the primary organization promoting intelligent design. The one disagreement that Bob Enyart raised regarded Dr. Ewert's claim that the "compiler" that the Creator used to produce DNA was actually a kind of machine that God made, whereas Bob argued that God Himself compiled the code, from the coding libraries that He had previously written and had retained in His memory. God the Son is the Author, the Word, the Creator, and by Winston's insight, the Compiler. 

* Bob Enyart vs. Eugenie Scott on TV: A while back Real Science Radio aired six minutes of audio from Bob's 1998 informal debate with leading anti-creationist Eugenie Scott. Genetic scientists, Dr. Scott  tells Enyart, were "over the hump" and affirmatively knew that pseudogenes had no function and that such "junk DNA" was therefore evidence against the existence of a Designer. Hear the fundamentalist Bible teacher disagree with the degreed scientist, and guess who science has vindicated? Get the DVD Bob Debates an Evolutionist!

The debate is decided in the first round, by TKO. That’s after Bob asked the well-known scientist for any evidence that any high-level function had ever evolved, like eyesight, or hearing, or flight, or mobility in general? Through the hour-long debate, this evolutionist refused to offer any such evidence but finally settled on a claim of evidence against design, which was: junk DNA! Ha!

Bob Enyart interviews Pat Roy, creator of the great Jonathan Park Adventure Series, on the brand new Genesis Apologetics project, Debunking 7 Myths by G.A. founder Dr. Dan Biddle. The guys answer the Myth 3 claim that Genesis 1 & 2 are conflicting creation accounts and they briefly discuss the Myth 6 claim that Moses couldn't have written the Torah. See the short video for each of the 7 Myths at these links. Also, Dr. Biddle's 7 Myths book has just been mailed to all of America's 1200+ Christian high schools!

For Real Science Radio's
List of Scholars Doubting Darwin and the Big Bang
please see rsr.org/doubters and
click to hear Bob discuss this on the radio.

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In an online discussion over at Prometheus Unbound, Santi, an agnostic who's had millions of visits to his blog, asked Bob Enyart about his doubts. You can read that discussion over at santitafarella.wordpress.com. This List of Doubts Christians Have (below) and first, the List of Doubts I Never Have is based on Bob's answer.

Santi: Bob, I’d like to ask you a personal question. When you doubt, what is it exactly that you doubt?"

Bob: Well Santi, I doubt that the rising mountain of evidence utterly refuting Darwinism will bring a majority of evolutionists to acknowledge our Creator God. I doubt that the failed predictions of the Big Bang Theory will lead atheists to…

But wait. I’m sure those are not the kinds of doubts you’re asking me about. You’re asking me to indicate, of the beliefs that I hold, which ones do I sometimes doubt. To help myself think this through Santi, I’ll first list the things I never ever doubt.

- I never doubt that I exist.
- I never doubt that truth exists, because for example, it is true that I exist.
- I never doubt that reason exists, because I can reason to the truth of the previous sentence.
- I never doubt that there is a reality, because truth and reason exist.
- I never doubt that the universe exists, because I exist as part of it, and I can reason to the truth of its existence.
- I never doubt that the universe must have had a beginning, because stars still burn available energy.
- Since truth and reason exist, I never doubt that logic exists.
- Since I exist and logic exists, I never doubt that existence itself must be rational.
- Since logic and reason exist, I never doubt that whatever has a beginning must have a cause.
- Since logic and reason exist, I never doubt that the effect cannot be greater than the cause.
- I never doubt that whatever caused the universe must be powerful and even greater than the universe itself.
- And since logic exists, I realize that nothing that has a beginning can have existed forever.
- And since the Cause of the universe must exist, I realize that it has no beginning, and has existed forever. 
- And since this uncaused Cause created the universe, i.e., its ingredients, I don't doubt that it also created me.
- And since I'm a person and the effect can't be greater than the cause I don't doubt that the Creator is personal.
- And because we persons are creative like He is, I never doubt that we are made to some extent in His likeness.
- And because the Creator is a person, I never doubt that He must be alive.
- So I never doubt that the attributes of our eternal Creator are that He is living and personal.
- And I never doubt that human beings refer to the living and personal eternal Creator as "God".
- And I never doubt that to be a person, one must have a will, so that it is by God's will that I exist.
- And because we creatures have the ability to know our Creator, I never doubt that He is relational.
- And because He made us with the ability to love, I never doubt that the Creator Himself can love.
- And because God can love, and He made us to know good and evil, I therefore never doubt that He is good.
- So I never doubt our all-powerful, eternal Creator God who is living, personal, relational, good, and loving.
- And I never doubt that all these things could be intuitively understood by everyone who's ever lived.
- And because God is good and loving and made us, I never doubt that He cares about us and wants to save us.
- And I never doubt that if Jesus Christ did not rise from the dead as prophesied, that Christianity is false.
- Nor have I ever doubted that if Jesus did rise from the dead, then all other religions are false and as He claimed, He is the only way to eternal life.

Santi, these are some of the things I never doubt.

Now, what do I sometimes doubt? There are many particulars regarding the universe, the world, mankind, doctrines of Scripture, points of history, economics, science, etc., that I’m eager to learn more of and to be corrected where in error. The more significant errors I’ve made over the years are listed on our Errata page which we link to from our KGOV.com home page and from the footer section of every one of the 10,000 pages on our site. (This article is one of those pages, at kgov.com/on-doubt, so you can see the Errata link just below.) And when I make a lesser error in a radio program, etc., we correct that error on that show’s summary page.

Was this a sufficient answer, or would you like some particular detail?

Thanks Santi!

-Bob Enyart
Pastor, Denver Bible Church
Conservative talk radio host, KGOV.com
Co-host, Real Science Radio
Teacher, Theology Thursday 

p.s. Santi, as C.S. Lewis once wrote, "I believe in Christianity as I believe that the Sun has risen, not only because I see it but because by it, I see everything else."

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* The 23.7 of 40 Ratio: Our telethon's at $23,700 of $40,000! Thanks so much! And to others, please help! :) Bob Enyart reviews the RSR list shows that we're considering producing (promising to work next on our List of Problems with Star Formation). Bob also mentioned the six quiet galaxies that transformed into quasars just in the past few months. Elsewhere we're told that our Milky Way may have been a quasar a few billion years ago, and maybe will become on again in four billion years or so. So it's fun to be able to add these half dozen galaxies to our List of Not So Old Things and to rsr.org/transients. Then there's that scary, or is it encouraging, 59 percent. We're 59% of the way toward our vitally important $40,000 telethon goal. Please help if you possibly can by subscribing to one of our monthly resources, or making a one-time or monthly donation, or picking up a great resource from our store, including perhaps some science videos or books for Christmas presents!

Today's resource: Bryan Nickel's Hydroplate Theory- Origin of the Grand Canyon: (DVD or Blu-ray!)

Bryan Nickel, a mechanical engineer in the aerospace industry, produced and narrates this in-depth explanation of Dr. Walt Brown's Hydroplate Theory for the origin of one of the seven wonders of the world. Just as his "HPT Tutorial" series dealt with the globe and the solar system, Nickel's current video explains the initial conditions and the mechanisms that led to the formation of the Grand Canyon.

Content:

Video: Beautifully illustrated physics-based failure analysis of the formation of the Grand Canyon on the Colorado Plateau. The excavation resulted from the aftermath of the global flood of Genesis as explained by Dr. Walt Brown's Hydroplate Theory. 94 minutes.

Audio: Bonus MP3 disc with five tracks of Bob Enyart interviewing Bryan Nickel for Real Science Radio's Grand Canyon Month series. You'll enjoy RSR's...
- List of Problems with ‘The River Carved the Canyon’
- List of Problems with the Canyon’s Millions of Years
- List of Problems with ‘The Flood Carved the Canyon’
- List of the Initial Conditions that Preceded the Canyon

Note: Bats do not have hollow bones. Their delicate bones have proportionately much less marrow than most other mammals.

* How'd Bats and Dolphins Evolve This? (Make sure to start with Part 1. And our annual September telethon is at $20,500 of $40,000! Please help!) This series on bats, whales, and dolphins fits into our List of Genomes that Just Don't Fit and our Evolution's Big Squeeze programs. For example, do you recall that horse DNA is closer to bats than to cows? Hmm. Evolutionists have the same contradiction to their theory when it comes to dolphins. Looking at their genes and sequencing the genomes of bats and dolphins gave researchers a shock. They discovered that not only is the primary hearing gene, prestin, astoundingly similar between bats, whales, and dolphins, but there are also shocking similarities between in 200 other genes between bats and dolphins! That blows out of the water the Darwinian claim that similarities can be used as evidence of common descent. Clearly, because echolocation has uncanny and massively extensive similarities between animals without a common ancestor for those features, that means that the whole concept of homology to show evolutionary descent is bogus.

* Homology Dead, Elephant Shrew Alive: Similarities, even extraordinarily and complex similarities, do not indicate common descent! Thus the superficial claim that similarities in teeth, or hair, or five digits on a limb, indicate common descent. Bob Enyart and Fred Williams discuss the physical demands on a system that can produce and detect an echo coming off of a mosquito! Then, remember RSR's PZ Myers Trochlea Challenge. In like form, the guys give examples showing why evolutionists don't propose algorithms for how echolocation could have arisen by any evolutionary mechanism. Because they can't!

* Trochlea Challenge: Infamous evolutionist PZ Myers replied to RSR and to his credit, he acknowledged that he does not have an answer for our trochlea challenge...