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Welcome to Real Science Radio: Co-hosts Fred Williams and Doug McBurney talk about science to debunk evolution and to show the evidence for the creator God including from biology, genetics, geology, history, paleontology, archaeology, astronomy, philosophy, cosmology, math, and physics. (For example, mutations will give you bad legs long before you'd get good wings.) We get to debate Darwinists and atheists like Lawrence Krauss, AronRa, and Eugenie Scott. We easily take potshots from popular evolutionists like PZ Myers, Phil Plait, and Jerry Coyne. The RSR Archive contains our popular List Shows! And we interview the outstanding scientists who dare to challenge today's accepted creed that nothing created everything.

RSR airs every Friday at 3pm MST on AM 670 KLTT in Denver, Colorado. For rebroadcast times and podcast platforms, see our Affiliates page.


RSR's 14c Everywhere Pt. 4

Diagram of a carbon atomNote: If you approve of Pastor Bob's 95 (covid) Theses as at please consider commenting on the LifeSiteNews article about Denver Bible Church's posting of these on their own church doors!

Bob and Fred have more fun than should be allowed in chemistry class! Real Science Radio's Enyart and Williams start with a statement on Carbon-14 that ALL physicists agree with, and then they address an observation, made ALL over the earth, that most physicists really would rather not think about. (For our full written show summary see The guys talk about predictions regarding carbon 14 and other predictions regarding the ongoing Mars exploration. And they announce two new RSR videos, one of a strange object seen on the Martian landscape (well, just kiddin', but it's fun!) and the other answering the question, What is the Firmament of Day 2 in Genesis? Finally, the guys announce a special guest and a special program next week to conclude this series!

RSR's 14c Everywhere Pt. 3

BEL Telethon state-by-state results 2-27-21
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* 14c: Carbon-14 doesn't lie. It only lasts thousands of years and yet is plentiful in fossils and diamonds claimed to be millions and billions of years old. On today's program Real Science Radio's Bob Enyart  presents the work of an PhD from MIT in mechanical engineering, Dr. Wallt Brown.

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* More about Carbon 14 Dating:
- Walt Brown answers How Accurate is Carbon Dating?
- Check out our own article at




RSR's List of 14c Everywhere It's Not Supposed to Be Pt. 2

Carbon-14 doesn't lie. It only lasts thousands of years and yet is plentiful in fossils and diamonds claimed to be millions and billions of years old. Real Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams continue their discussion of Carbon-14 by adding to 14c factoids, presenting our List of Carbon-14 Everywhere It's Not Supposed to Be, and then they take neutron capture and knock it out of the ball park (specifically, out of Denver's Coors Field)!

Carbon-14 Everywhere It Shouldn't Be = Young Earth

A diagram of a Carbon-14 atom* The 2021 Version of an RSR Classic: Carbon-14 doesn't lie. It has a relatively brief life and yet is plentiful in fossils and diamonds claimed to be millions and billions of years old. Carbon-14 can't be an anomaly, because it's not here and there but it's everywhere it shouldn't be. This radiocarbon is so unstable that a solid ball of 14c the size of the Earth would all decay into nitrogen in less than a million years. Real Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams begin today's Carbon-14 program by airing Bob's phone conservation from 15 years ago with Jurassic Park film advisor Jack Horner. Bob offered Jack $23,000 to carbon date the soft tissue T. rex that his team had recently excavated. (The 14c argument for a young-earth parallels the argument made from the 50 peer-reviewed scientific papers, listed at, documenting the existence of still-soft dinosaur blood and many other examples of dinosaur biomaterial "fossils".)

* RSR's 2021 Carbon 14 SeriesPt. 1 (today's show), Pt. 2Pt. 3Pt. 4, and Pt. 5.

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* 14c Factoids: For a better "gut feel" for the topic...
- Our atmosphere has one carbon-14 atom for every one trillion carbon atoms.
- 21 pounds of 14c are produced in the atmosphere every year!
- Unstable radiocarbon decays with a half-life of 5,730 years. (half-life symbol = t1/2)
- A solid ball of 14c the size of the Earth would all decay into nitrogen in less than a million years.
- A gram of carbon has about 50 sextillion carbon atoms. (50,000,000,000,000,000,000,000)
- RSR co-host Fred has about 10 octillion total atoms in his body. (one octillion of carbon)
- Fred, a big guy, carries around about 50 billion radiocarbon atoms! (50,000,000,000)
- Fred's body experiences about 2,500 decays of 14c to nitrogen every second.
- One 14c atom in a trillion carbon atoms is referred to as 100 percent modern carbon. (100 pMC)
- Likewise, 100 14c atoms in a 100 trillion is referred to as 100 percent modern carbon.
- So 50 14c atoms in a 100 trillion carbon atoms is referred to as 50 percent modern carbon. (50 pMC)
- Fifty percent modern carbon is interpreted as 5,730 years before present. (about 6,000 years BP)
- The best AMS labs accurately count 14c atoms to even 0.001 of a percent modern carbon. (100th to a 1000th pMC)
- Published lab measurements show processing introduces 1/10th to 3/10ths of a percent contamination. (~0.2 pMC)
- So lab contamination adds one 14c atom to 250 in 500 trillion carbon atoms. (Yielding 251 of 500 trillion or 50.2 pMC.)
- 14c "ages" get progressively significantly inflated as with bones from 873 AD dated to 200 years earlier
- Pompeii, destroyed in 79 AD, was expected to give appropriate ages but gave 2400 to 5800 years BP.
- Old 14c "dates" are progressively too old and there's far too much C-14 in diamonds, etc., to be contamination!

Yet Another Squeeze: Animal Intelligence Squeezes Darwinism

We're adding "animal intelligence" to The claim that apes should have the highest intelligence in the animal kingdom because we humans supposedly evolved from them turns out to be yet another fail. Did you know, for example, that certains species of birds demonstrate that they know what other birds are thinking? On today's Real Science Radio program Bob Enyart and Fred Williams discuss really fun and hugely significant examples of animal intelligence! Wait till you can hear what the lowly ant does! RSR thanks Answers in Genesis for publishing Dr. Joe Francis' article Smarter Than You Think which we've used as a framework for today's broadcast. Also, February is our annual telethon month and our goal is $50,000 so we can really use your help! We're only at a couple thousand dollars so far. So if you can, please check out or call us at 1-800-8Enyart (836-9278) to purchase materials, sign up for a subscription, or to make a one-time or monthly donation. Thanks so much!

From These are RSR-styled...
- Animal: Excepting humans, a multicellular biological organism with specialized sense organs and voluntary movement.
- Mammal: A warm-blooded vertebrate animal with hair or fur, females that secrete milk, and, except for the platypus and spiny anteater, the birth of live young.
- Animal Kingdom: The animals of the world collectively, excluding insects and fish (which are more likened to biological robots than to volitional organisms)
- Human being: A person, made in God's likeness, with body, soul and spirit (whereas animals have body and soul)
- Plant: A biological organism that synthesizes nutrients in its leaves by photosynthesis (possessing a body but neither a soul or spirit).

* One minute video of a magpie perceiving what many apes don't

RSR Meets a Platypus

A platypus appears to be swimming in the RSR studioReal Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams let a platypus help them expose the List of Ways Darwinists Invent their Tree of Life. Evolutionists change their selection of what evidence they use to show 'lineage', from DNA to fossils to genes to body plans to teeth to many specific anatomical features to proteins to behavior to developmental similarities to habitat to RNA, etc. and to a combination of such. Darwinism is an entire endeavor based on selection bias, a kind of logical fallacy. By anti-science they arbitrarily select evidence that best matches whichever evolutionary story is currently preferred. Join in as Bill the Platypus shows the way and make sure to see the 20-second video below of him swimming around the RSR studio. :)

Now the platypus is in the RSR break room!  :)

Population Genetics Expert Explains the Darwin-Slaying Science

Biologist Christopher RupeIf one little baby ape, a long long time ago, had an especially helpful mutation, how long would it take before all apes inherited that single genetic improvement? Biologist Christopher Rupe (colleague of last week's guest, geneticist John Sanford) helps Real Science Radio get a better understanding of the science of population genetics. Bob Enyart asks Rupe about something called genetic fixation, about alleles, and the percentage of mutations that are beneficial. The discussion also asks, with the distribution of helpful mutations being exceedingly slower than a snail's pace, what is the pace of the accumulation of harmful mutations? Listeners will also learn about the test of the ape-to-man hypothesis, about how dissimilar chimp DNA is from the human genome, and why the Y chromosome should be the most similar but it is so wildly different that it's as close to a chick Y as a chimp Y!

Mendel's Accountant screenshot* Mendel's Accountant Powerful Evolution Simulator: See also Mendel's Accountant, the web's software tool to simulate the theory of evolution.

* Today's Resource: Bob Enyart's talk, filmed on the Pepperdine University campus in Malibu, Trading Genesis.

* Stunning Talks: If we get a video of Rupe's college lecture, we'll embed it on this page. In the meantime, here's Chris' colleague, Dr. John Sanford, lecturing at NIH:

Cancel Culture at NIH and their Target on RSR

J.C. Sanford, Ph.D. Genetic Entropy* Dr. John Sanford: Hear Real Science Radio's interview of one of the world's leading geneticists, Dr. John Sanford, including about the cancel culture that occurred at the National Institutes of Health after his recent lecture. Please email to a friend or post on social media or, both of which link to this important RSR program! Please also consider and Dr. Sanford's paper, The waiting time problem in a model hominin population.

* For Biology, Use 'Entropy' Not 'Second Law': Bob has long urged that when arguing against biological evolution creationists should use the term entropy, as Sanford does, rather than the term second law (of thermodynamics). An American Journal of Physics paper on evolution and thermodynamics prompted Bob Enyart and TheologyOnline's Johnny to debate Entropy & Evolution. Kindly, Prof. Dan Styer himself, the author of the AJP paper, joined in while Bob was arguing that it is not possible to translate information entropy into heat entropy. Bob urges creationists to refrain from that sloppy argument, and if he's correct, then Bob has shown that Styer failed to refute the entropy argument against Darwin. (And interestingly, at the end of the debate, Styer revealed that He Himself believes in Jesus Christ as creator and savior!)

Major creation group extends olive branch to Walt Brown's supporters

* After the Friday Night Massacre: Post-show Update. Google and Apple have just thrown Parler off their app stores. For years on BEL we've warned against a church phenomenon in England in the 1800s which we call "secondhand excommunication", that is, excommunicating Person A and then excommunicating others, Persons B, C, & D, because have refused to excommunicate Person A. The left has now crossed over into that same twilight zone in what we can call "secondhand cancel culture". So it's time to use Google against Google. RSR created and offers free use of these two custom Google search tools, the first of which can be used to find news about current events that Google will supress.

Conservative multisite news search buttonClick to save a ton of time and find what you're looking for fast! This service provides a time-saving customized multi-site Google conservative news search! Let's say you're looking for a particular report on 2020 election fraud and Google doesn't want to show it to you. Well, here's how to get what you want and to use Google against Google! Just click on this Multiple Conservative Site Search and enter whatever conservative news story you're interested in. And viola! You'll have it in your search results in a second! 

When Googling: Try RSR's Multiple Creation Site Search!For origins, creation, and evolution you'll be simultaneously searching Real Science Radio along with the Web's four largest and most popular creation sites! This tool bypasses the confusion and noise of the Internet and let's you search simultaneously the thousands of science articles written by friends of RSR from the websites of Creation Ministries International, Answers in Genesis, the Institute for Creation Research, Dr. Walt Brown's Center for Scientific Creation, and of course from our own RSR resources. Enjoy!

With social media platforms openly turning against conservatives, perhaps privately-run online forums will come back into common use. For example, BEL/RSR owns and operates We invite you to click on over there and participate in the Creation Science forum!

* Today's Program: Praise God! Real Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams share a fabulous article from ICR's new president, Randy Guliuzza in which he expresses love and appreciation for a couple dozen creation organizations including CSC, that is, Dr. Walt Brown! This is in the same spirit of humility of the founder of the Institution for Creation Research, Henry Morris who "passed the torch of creation" to Dr. Brown! See to understand why reconciliation was (and with many others, still) needed.) The guys also discussed RSR being booted this week from Google Podcast, and far more significantly, the breach of the capitol this week. And with a prayer at the Capitol ending with "a-men and a-women", the guys present the etymology of the word amen! And they also promoted three things. One, an upcoming RSR interview with a scientist who spoke recently at the NIH. Two, that out RSR Multiple Creation Site Search has now reached 2,500 searches! And three, a Jerry Bergman novel that's about to be published by an imprint of HarperCollins/Thomas Nelson/Zondervan! Go Jerry! UPDATE: RSR is back on Google Podcast. Go figure! See more at and

Richard Holland: God, Time, and the Incarnation

* A Significant Broadcast Event: [Part 1 re-aired for New Year's Day!] Today we begin to air what our staff believes is the most important series of author interviews ever produced in the 30-year history of Bob Enyart Live. Richard Holland is assistant professor of apologetics and theology with Liberty University Baptist Theological Seminary [2018 update: Now assistant professor of philosophy at Grand Canyon University]. Dr. Holland authored God, Time, and the Incarnation to explore the impact of God the Son becoming a man on the philosophical doctrines of divine timelessness and utter immutability.

* Enjoying a Coffee Shop Visit: Rather than conducting a typical author interview and squeezing an overview of a book into a single show segment, instead, Bob and Richard have agreed that they will take their time and review the material as though the two men had half a day free to sit next to a fireplace in a coffee shop to consider one of the most far-reaching observations that any human being can make. Consider the insight into ultimate reality provided by the Incarnation of God the Son! We hope you enjoy this 7-interview series as much as we have enjoyed producing it! So, brace yourself.

* The Richard Holland BEL Links:
- God, Time, and the Incarnation (this show)
- God, Time, and the Incarnation Part 2
- God, Time, and the Incarnation Part 3
- God, Time, and the Incarnation Part 4
- God, Time, and the Incarnation Part 5
- God, Time, and the Incarnation Part 6
- God, Time, and the Incarnation Part 7
Related: Our series with Ryan Mullins on his
Oxford series book, The End of the Timeless God.

* Boethius in Stanford's Encyclopedia of Philosophy: The entry for Eternity in Stanford's Encyclopedia of Philosophy states, "Boethius found the source of the idea of eternity which he attributes to God in Plato."

* Isaac Newton, McTaggart, and Cullman: During this series, Bob and Dr. Holland also discuss Isaac Newton, John McTaggart, and Oscar Culllman. Holland describes Newton's concept of absolute and relative time, as Enyart, with three centuries of hindsight circumspectly suggests what Newton may actually have been referring to. John McTaggart contributed the philosophical terminology of time as the "A Series" (the traditional, tensed view of time) as compared to his own (and incorrect) "B Series" of time as static, not unlike the ordered though atemporal positions of numbers on a number line. Holland then describes Oscar Cullman's analysis of the Greek vocabulary showing that, as we've long reported at, the New Testament terminology regarding God and time does not support the philosophical claim that He exists outside of time, as Bob adds, but rather, quite the opposite.

* Newton on Time Eternally Flowing from God: Post-show update: We teach at just as Isaac Newton stated, that "the existence of God was eternal, in relation to duration". Consider this quote from the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy to show that Isaac Newton's understanding of time has much in common with BEL's teaching but not with classical theology...

Isaac Newton founded classical mechanics on the view... that time passes uniformly without regard to whether anything happens in the world. [H]e spoke of absolute space and absolute time, so as to distinguish these entities from the various ways by which we measure them... From antiquity into the eighteenth century, contrary views... insisted, there can be no lapse of time without change occurring somewhere. Time is merely a measure of cycles of change within the world. [BE: Time doesn't move faster on a desert planet during a sandstorm nor slower in Vermont during an economic shut down.] ...Newton did not regard space and time as genuine substances (as are, paradigmatically, bodies and minds), but rather as real entities with their own manner of existence as necessitated by God's existence (more specifically, his omnipresence and eternality). [BE: That is, time eternaly flows from God.]

* Is God Outside of Time? If you Google: Is God Outside of Time, out of a billion pages consider relevant, Google ranks our BEL article, Is God Outside of Time? in the top ten!