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Welcome to Real Science Radio: Co-hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams talk about science to debunk evolution and to show the evidence for the creator God including from biology, genetics, geology, history, paleontology, archaeology, astronomy, philosophy, cosmology, math, and physics. (For example, mutations will give you bad legs long before you'd get good wings.) We get to debate Darwinists and atheists like Lawrence Krauss, AronRa, and Eugenie Scott. We easily take potshots from popular evolutionists like PZ Myers, Phil Plait, and Jerry Coyne. The RSR Archive contains our popular List Shows! And we interview the outstanding scientists who dare to challenge today's accepted creed that nothing created everything.

The Legend Dr. Gary Parker on Real Science Radio

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Creation Facts of Life, cover, book by Dr. Gary ParkerHow did my longtime RSR co-host Fred Williams come to reject the theory of evolution? Biologist Dr. Gary Parker wrote What is Creation Science? with Dr. Henry Morris. Dr. Parker was also the first creation scientist Fred ever heard speak and so we owe a debt of gratitude to this man, one of the fathers of the modern creation movement. Dr. Parker, a former atheist was a member of the American Society of Zoologists and a recipient of a National Science Foundation fellowship award. Further, one of the first DNA books written was the 1966 DNA: The Key to Life. When Dr. Parker co-authored that book he was an evolutionist but by the writing of the 2nd Edition of 1977 he had become a creationist and realized what should have been obvious in the first edition, the brilliant and majestic design of the genome. Bob and Gary take a walk down memory lane stopping off here and there to make the kinds of life-changing observations that are available to anyone who takes the time to smell the roses and enjoy the sunset. One of his later books, Creation: Facts of Life, is subtitled How Real Science Reveals the Hand of God. And make sure to hear the conclusion at!

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Astronomer Danny Falkner on RSR on the Flat Earth

Falling-Flat.png* The ScopeSeven percent of Brazil's adults believe the Earth is flat; 10% of the French doubt it's a globe; and ScienceAlert reports on a YouGov survey showing that nearly three million U.S. "adults" 18 to 24 claim the earth is flat. Meanwhile, the global young earth creation movement rescues people out of the flat earth delusion.

* The Interview: Bob Enyart interviews a Ph.D. in astronomy Dr. Danny Faulkner on his book, Falling Flat: A Refutation of Flat Earth Claims. Dr. Faulkner says that at the beginning of their first semester, none of his students at the University of South Carolina were able to answer his question, how do we know that the Earth is a sphere? But, as we would expect, when he taught at a Christian high school, his new students there were able to answer his question. Danny describes for our Real Science Radio audience the cosmology of the flat earth movement including their claim about the shape of the Earth, a dome with embedded stars, and a spotlight sun and moon, and their common conflation of geocentrism with their flat earth syndrome. The guys also discuss the Columbus myth, the modern fabrication that the church had ever taught a flat earth, the Christian creationists Copernicus, Newton, and Kepler, who introduced and explained heliocentrism, and the causes of the modern flat earth movement including paranoia and the horrendously poor state of science education in the west. Finally, Dr. Faulkner and Bob discuss some of their favorite arguments against the flat earth.

* The Chicago Photo: While Bob and Dr. Faulkner discuss how the weather affects light, check out the December 26, 2019 photographs of an eclipse on the horizon over the Persian Gulf. 

David Coppedge on RSR on Rapid Geological Processes

David Coppedge* Fast Geology with David Coppedge: Real Science Radio host Bob Enyart welcomes back David Coppedge, founder of Creation-Evolution Headlines,, to discuss geological processes claimed by uniformitarians to take tens of thousands or even millions of years that actually occur rapidly! Click that link to read David's article on the examples from today's program, including rapid biogeographical distribution of marine life via pumice rafts, salt crystal precipitation in the "thousands of years" old Dead Sea (not millions), appearance of a brand new geothermal area at Yellowstone, and rockfalls (as in RSR's List of Collapsing Natural Bridges).

* See also these Coppedge-related RSR Pages:
Cassini System Admin Coppedge on the Saturn Mission
David Coppedge on RSR on Rapid Geological Processes (this show)
NASA Rocket Scientist on Real Science Radio, an interview that David set up for us with his friend Henry Richter
Fired Jet Propulsion Lab Admin on RSR
1983 Photos of the Now Falsified Yellowstone Petrified Trees Exhibit photographed by David headlines on RSR with David Coppedge 2016 headlines on RSR with David Coppedge 2017
RSR interviews David's Illustra & Discovery Institute associates

First documented species to live on Surtsey Island* Surtsey Island: From we discussed the volcanic Surtsey Island that formed in 1963 off the coast of Iceland. New Scientist reported in 2007 about Surtsey that "geographers... marvel that canyons, gullies and other land features that typically take tens of thousands or millions of years to form were created in less than a decade." Yes. And Iceland's chief geologist wrote only months after Surtsey formed, "that the time scale," he had been trained "to attach to geological developments is misleading." For what is said to:

"take thousands of years... the same development may take a few weeks or even days here," including to form "a landscape... so varied and mature that it was almost beyond belief" with "wide sandy beaches and precipitous crags... gravel banks and lagoons, impressive cliffs… hollows, glens and soft undulating land... fractures and faultscarps, channels and screes… confounded by what met your eye... boulders worn by the surf, some of which were almost round..."

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The Global Flood and the Hydroplate Theory
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Real Science Radio co-host Bob Enyart presents the scientific evidence for Dr. Walt Brown’s model of the global flood, along with the relevant biblical material. Enyart also discusses Brown's opponents and contrasts both the vapor canopy and catastrophic plate tectonics with the hydroplate theory.

RSR's Echolocation Pt. 3

Bat echolocation diagram

* How'd Bats and Dolphins Evolve This? (Make sure to start with Part 1!) Real Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams conclude their series on the Problems with the Evolution of Echolocation. This discussion of bats, dolphins, and whales fits into our List of Genomes that Just Don't Fit and our Evolution's Big Squeeze series. You may recall that horse DNA is closer to bats than to cows! Hmm. Evolutionists have the same contradiction to their theory when it comes to whales. Looking at the genes and sequencing the genomes of bats, whales, and dolphins gave researchers a shock. They discovered that not only is the primary hearing gene, prestin, astoundingly similar between bats and whales, there are also shocking similarities between them in 200 other genes! That blows out of the water the Darwinian claim that similarities can be used as evidence of common descent. Because echolocation has massively extensive similarities between animals without a common ancestor for those features, that means that the whole concept of homology to show evolutionary descent is bogus.

* Homology Dead, Elephant Shrew Alive: Similarities, even extraordinarily and complex similarities, do not indicate common descent! Thus the superficial claim that similarities in teeth, or hair, or five digits on a limb, indicate common descent. Bob Enyart and Fred Williams discuss the physical demands on a system that can produce and detect an echo coming off of a mosquito! Then, remember RSR's PZ Myers Trochlea Challenge. In like form, the guys give examples showing why evolutionists don't propose algorithms for how echolocation could have arisen by any evolutionary mechanism. Because they can't!

* RSR's Echolocation and Related Resources: (this program)

* Trochlea Challenge: Infamous evolutionist PZ Myers replied to RSR and to his credit, he acknowledged that he does not have an answer for our trochlea challenge... 

Trochlea challenge to evolutionsits...

The 360-Day Year on Real Science Radio

360 Day Year logo from the website* Did the whole world once use a 360-day calendar? If so, why? From our archives, RSR hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams look at the Mayans, Egyptians, Aztecs, Indians, Sumerians, Babylonians, Greeks, Romans, Chinese, and the Hebrew Bible to answer the first question: Yes, ancient civilizations used a 360-day calendar. To answer the question why, one must keep in mind the sophistication of ancient astronomers. Nasa reports that in 650 B.C., "Mayan astronomers [made] detailed observations of Venus, leading to a highly accurate calendar." And the Encyclopedia of Time says of the Aztecs that, "they carried on and further developed calendrical traditions that had their roots some 2,000 years before their own time." Real Science Radio investigates the reason why the ancient world used a 360-day calendar and discusses a mechanism for speeding up the rotation of the Earth that in historical times could add 5.24 days to the year. See more at

* RSR on YouTube: You're invited to check out RSR's 360-day year program turned into this important YouTube video:

Cassini System Admin Coppedge on the Saturn Mission

David Coppedge at JPL, 2008

* David Coppedge Cassini Mission Ground System Administrator: Real Science Radio's Bob Enyart interviews David Coppedge on the stunning Cassini mission to Saturn and its stunning scientific discoveries including the powerful evidence admitted by NASA showing that the ring system is young! Other dramatic discoveries also indicate that the Saturn system is not billions of years old. For more, see and David's website

* Transient Events of the Solar System: From
SaturnRings are young & rapdily changing; its moon Enceladus is erupting  (hear RSR with former JPL system administrator), and ejecting both plasma and Argon 40, an enormous and impossible amount if formed as generally claimed; Enceladus "is a geologically active place" with its "Tiger Stripes", long parallel cracks, being of "young age", and its "south pole [being] both warmer than expected and warmer than the surrounding areas..." (An upcoming Enceladus mission may confirm the hypothesis that all of the heat being released could be produced by tidal forces, or not.)

* The Earth and Moon from Saturn:

Earth and Moon from Saturn

The Creator's Coding Library: Winston Ewert on RSR

An example Dependency Graph of Life based on Ewert
Based on Ewert, 2018

Get ready to think. And brace yourself. Winston Ewert, Ph.D. from Baylor University in computer engineering, explains why Darwin's tree of life is being cut down ( as genetic discoveries  ( confound the hypothesis of common descent. Dr. Ewert describes his insight, as published in Bio-Complexity, in seven stunning words: "DNA is the product of a compiler." The Creator designed genetic sofware, so to speak, writing DNA code libraries, and then called upon those coding libraries in hierarchical patterns as He called into existence the various kinds of living organisms. Note: We'd like to thank Yvon, a Real Science Radio listener from Vancouver, British Columbia, who recommended Dr. Ewert's paper.

Darwin's Tree of Life Sketch: "I think" Not! Rigorous mathematical analysis, briefly discussed on today's program and detailed in Ewert's paper, is indicating that rather than genomes reflecting Darwin's "tree" (see Charle's sketch, right, although as modified by RSR), the data is far better explained by the software model of a "dependency graph". Ewert works at the Biologic Institute, a research arm of Seattle-based Discovery Institute, which, outside of the young-earth creation movement, is the primary organization promoting intelligent design. The one disagreement that Bob Enyart raised regarded Dr. Ewert's claim that the "compiler" that the Creator used to produce DNA was actually a kind of machine that God made, whereas Bob argued that God Himself compiled the code, from the coding libraries that He had previously written and had retained in His memory. God the Son is the Author, the Word, the Creator, and by Winston's insight, the Compiler. 

DVD of creationist Bob Enyart debating Eugenie Scott, Ph.D. on evolution and junk DNA* Bob Enyart vs. Eugenie Scott on TV: A while back Real Science Radio aired six minutes of audio from Bob's 1998 informal debate with leading anti-creationist Eugenie Scott. Genetic scientists, Dr. Scott  tells Enyart, were "over the hump" and affirmatively knew that pseudogenes had no function and that such "junk DNA" was therefore evidence against the existence of a Designer. Hear the fundamentalist Bible teacher disagree with the degreed scientist, and guess who science has vindicated? Get the DVD Bob Debates an Evolutionist!

Bob Debates Eugenie Scott, Ph.D. of NCSEThe debate is decided in the first round, by TKO. That’s after Bob asked the well-known scientist for any evidence that any high-level function had ever evolved, like eyesight, or hearing, or flight, or mobility in general? Through the hour-long debate, this evolutionist refused to offer any such evidence but finally settled on a claim of evidence against design, which was: junk DNA! Ha!

Debunking 7 Myths with Pat Roy of Genesis Apologetics

7-myths-debunked-genesis-apologetics.jpgBob Enyart interviews Pat Roy, creator of the great Jonathan Park Adventure Series, on the brand new Genesis Apologetics project, Debunking 7 Myths by G.A. founder Dr. Dan Biddle. The guys answer the Myth 3 claim that Genesis 1 & 2 are conflicting creation accounts and they briefly discuss the Myth 6 claim that Moses couldn't have written the Torah. See the short video for each of the 7 Myths at these links. Also, Dr. Biddle's 7 Myths book has just been mailed to all of America's 1200+ Christian high schools!

Keeping RSR on Air (and science tidbits that slay atheism)

Iran militia with dandelions* The 23.7 of 40 Ratio: Our telethon's at $23,700 of $40,000! Thanks so much! And to others, please help! :) Bob Enyart reviews the RSR list shows that we're considering producing (promising to work next on our List of Problems with Star Formation). Bob also mentioned the six quiet galaxies that transformed into quasars just in the past few months. Elsewhere we're told that our Milky Way may have been a quasar a few billion years ago, and maybe will become on again in four billion years or so. So it's fun to be able to add these half dozen galaxies to our List of Not So Old Things and to Then there's that scary, or is it encouraging, 59 percent. We're 59% of the way toward our vitally important $40,000 telethon goal. Please help if you possibly can by subscribing to one of our monthly resources, or making a one-time or monthly donation, or picking up a great resource from our store, including perhaps some science videos or books for Christmas presents!

Today's resource: Bryan Nickel's Hydroplate Theory- Origin of the Grand Canyon: (DVD or Blu-ray!)

Bryan Nickel, a mechanical engineer in the aerospace industry, produced and narrates this in-depth explanation of Dr. Walt Brown's Hydroplate Theory for the origin of one of the seven wonders of the world. Just as his "HPT Tutorial" series dealt with the globe and the solar system, Nickel's current video explains the initial conditions and the mechanisms that led to the formation of the Grand Canyon.


Video: Beautifully illustrated physics-based failure analysis of the formation of the Grand Canyon on the Colorado Plateau. The excavation resulted from the aftermath of the global flood of Genesis as explained by Dr. Walt Brown's Hydroplate Theory. 94 minutes.

Audio: Bonus MP3 disc with five tracks of Bob Enyart interviewing Bryan Nickel for Real Science Radio's Grand Canyon Month series. You'll enjoy RSR's...
- List of Problems with ‘The River Carved the Canyon’
- List of Problems with the Canyon’s Millions of Years
- List of Problems with ‘The Flood Carved the Canyon’
- List of the Initial Conditions that Preceded the Canyon