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Welcome to Real Science Radio: Co-hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams talk about science to debunk evolution and to show the evidence for the creator God including from biology, genetics, geology, history, paleontology, archaeology, astronomy, philosophy, cosmology, math, and physics. (For example, mutations will give you bad legs long before you'd get good wings.) We get to debate Darwinists and atheists like Lawrence Krauss, AronRa, and Eugenie Scott. We easily take potshots from popular evolutionists like PZ Myers, Phil Plait, and Jerry Coyne. The RSR Archive contains our popular List Shows! And we interview the outstanding scientists who dare to challenge today's accepted creed that nothing created everything.

RSR's List of the Kinds of Polystrate Fossils

Polystrate fossil standing through multiple geologic strataMany have heard about polystrate tree fossils, the thousands of trunks found over the last couple hundred years standing upright through multiple rock layers. (Poly means many, strata means geologic layer). Many polystrate fossils (see the list a few paragraphs down) have been buried crossing layers typically claimed to form over many thousands or even a million years. Regarding trees, areas noted for polystrate tree fossils include:
- Joggins in Nova Scotia
- Sydney, Nova Scotia (260 miles from Joggins)
- Lancashire in England
- Germany's Ruhr region
- Specimen Ridge in Yellowstone
St. Etienne in France
- Blount County, Alabama
- Australia, Eastern U.S., etc.

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list of polystrate fossils.

Trees form one kind of polystrate fossil, and this list, as we will see, is not a list of polystrate tree fossils, but far more significantly, it's a list of the kinds of polystrate fossils that exist. Regarding the formation of any kind of polystrate, of course, dead organisms cannot stand for thousands of years waiting to be buried. And characteristically such fossils, as with polystrates trees, show no greater erosion at their top than at their base. So a single true polystrate fossil compresses the time it took to lay down its burial strata into a relatively brief period.

Front Cover* Textbooks Skip Polystrates: Creationists claim that geology textbooks tend to omit any discussion at all of polystrate fossils. For example, a 2019 list of the top ten current geology textbooks includes Geology: A Complete Introduction. Yet a Google Books search reveals, "No results found in this book for polystrate." And there's The Changing Earth: Exploring Geology and Evolution from the worldwide publisher Thomson Learning. "No results found in this book for polystrate." Then there's Physical Geology 16th edition published by McGraw-Hill. "From inside the book, Your search - polystrate - did not match any documents." Those titles are searchable online. It appears there is a lack of interest in polystrate fossils among old-earth geologists. Just like with the greatest discovery in the history of paleontology, dinosaur soft tissue (see, uniformitarian scientists show a lack of interest about whatever polystrate fossils can tell us about the past.

* Geologists Assigning Polystrates to Creationists: Tycho Brahe unintentionally freed astronomy from deep systemic error by assigning the study of Mars' orbit to Johann Kepler. The needed paradigm shift then happened precisely because Kepler was tenaciously curious about the planet's orbital anomalies. Regarding polystrate anomalies, evolutionary geologists lack scientific curiosity only because they assume a systematic study will not provide signficant support for their own treasured assumptions about the geologic record. Therefore, they have left the task of exploring polystrates to creationists. And explore them we will.

Enjoy the radio series: Polystrates Pt. 1, Pt. 2, & Pt. 3.

* Evolutionary Explanations for Polystrates: Even though geology textbooks ignore polystrate fossils, explanations can be found at NCSE, Wikipedia, etc. We address below all four evolutionary explanations that we've been able to identify.

EE1 Rapid Sedimentation: As an exception to the (claimed) generally slow formation of most strata, the layers that bury a polystrate are deposited during a "rapid rate of sedimentation", for example, from a river flooding and burying growing trees. (See this at NCSE, the site of Bob's opponent Eugenie Scott. This EE1 is actually the correct explanation except for two big problems presented below at CR1 in our Creationist Rebuttals.)

EE2 Persistent Trees: As at Yellowstone's Specimen Ridge it is claimed that persistent trees became petrified standing through multiple strata that were long claimed to make up 50 successive forests, vertically, each growing and dying out, one forest on top of another, fifty times. Even though the Nat'l Park Service finally removed the exhibit (see below) that makes that false claim, nonetheless it shows an inherent polystrate explanation, that trees can remain vertically long enough for the passage of sufficient geologic time to see the rise and demise of multiple strata of successive forests.

EE3 Persistent Organisms with Rapid Sedimentation: A combination of the first two explanation, with trees, for example, buried by fast sedimentation, followed by a layer of slow sedimentation. For example from Talk Origins, they suggest an initial burial in sediments of "several feet" followed by continued slower sedimentation or perhaps additional rapid sedimentation events. Trees don't die and decay instantly, so polystrate trees remained upright through a sequence of fast sedimentation followed by slow sedimentation.

EE4 Rare Enough to Ignore: Polystrate fossils are extremely rare and mostly a creationist exaggeration so they can be ignored.

* The List of Kinds of Polystrate Fossils: (see examples below)
- Upright trees form only one kind of polystrate fossil, other kinds include...
- A school of jellyfish fossilized across seven vertical layers allegedly deposited over a million-year period
School of jellyfish forming polystrate fossil in million-year seven layers of Wisconsin quarry- Fossilized end-to-end leaves standing on edge in super-slow deposited diatoms
- A fossilized pod of whales buried across four geologic strata
- A fossilized whale buried in diatomaceous earth
- A school of tadpoles in diatoms
- Aquatic mesosaur reptile in "annual" varves
- Delicate spines radiating through layers of now sold rock
- Nautiloids in the Redwall limestone which allegedly formed at 4,000 years per inch
Delicate radiating spines through multiple rock strata- A fossilized school of (an allegedly) extinct trout-perch species
- Three-dimensional trilobites in super-slowly deposited limestone
- Communities of organisms found in limestone
- Dinosaur footprints that deform multiple now rock-hard layers
- Etc. (the millions of fossils that cross strata boundaries or extend vertically through allegedly super-slowly formed rock)

Al Gore's inconvenient nemesis Gregory Wrightstone on RSR

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highlights in the climate debate.

"Longtime End-Times" Preacher: has died this weekend reports WND without a hint of irony. Not just Jack Van Impe, but as a group the leading end times preachers have all been dying of old age. See the list at

Inconvenient Facts that Al Gore Doesn't Want You To Know by Gregory Wrightstone* Gregory Wrightstone: If you search "Gregory Wrightstone" on the top ten anti global warming websites you'll find that they mention today's Real Science Radio guest thousands of times. To confirm that, Google: top ten anti global warming websites. You'll find at our list that includes cfact, wattsupwiththat, climedepot, heartland, and Wrightstone's own On our anti climate crisis RSR page, you'll find a time-saving customized Google tool that simultaneously searches those and only those top ten sites. This cuts through Internet clutter when you're looking for the strongest argument against the climate alarmist. (Atop find the same kind of time-saving Google search for origins research.) Bob and Greg discuss the minor and historically normal warming that's happened recently, the persistent U.S. heat records from the 1930s and glaciers at Glacier National Park, State Pen's Michael Mann losing the first of his two hockey stick lawsuits, the Australia fires, the Amazon not being the "lungs of the world", UN IPCC scientists breaking ranks and exposing fraud, geologist Wrightstone himself, ironically, becoming an IPCC advisor, the Earth's helpful feedback loop of warmer temps increasing evaporation and cloud cover lowering increasing its albedo and lowering temps, and finally, the whether phenomenon known as the Gore Effect. After the interview Bob shared with old-earther Wrightstone the greatest discovery in the history of paleontology, dinosaur soft tissue! See those discoveries as published in the world's leading science journals at And see our maintained page at

RSR Reduces the Uncertainty about Shannon Information

Information theory and the Demise of Darwinism by Fred Williams, RSR co-host * Information and Darwinism: Real Science Radio concludes our translation of Fred Williams' visual presentation into audio for this radio broadcast. (Covering the science topics that we do on radio without benefit of visuals is no mean feat.) Four Colorado creation groups saw Information Theory and the Demise of Darwinism. Bob Enyart and Fred talk about information to get at what one of the most accomplished physicists in history meant when he said, "Everything is information." Why do so many materialists desperately claim that information is physical? You may want to first listen to Part 1. A bonus in today's program is the guys' effort to explain the many decades of confusion and disagreement over something called "Shannon Information".

* Materialists vs. Everything: Just as information is immaterial, it turns out that so much of what is most substantive is not material. Copied from
- Numbers are not physical.
- Math is not physical.
- Information is not physical.
- Grammar is not physical.
- Logic is not physical.
- Reason is not physical.
- Concepts are not physical.
- Ideas are not physical.
- Morality is not physical.
- Truth is not physical.
- Souls are not physical.
- Spirits are not physical.
- Codes are not physical.
The mathematical symbol for the square root of negative one with a halo over it. :) - The square root of negative one. (Imaginary numbers are non-physical concepts, yet they are crucial for understanding aspects of the physical world, which itself is evidence against a materialist origin of the universe and effectively reveals the intellect of the Creator. See this at 
- Consciousness is not physical. (Countless atheists, like Daniel Dennett and Jerry Coyne, argue that consciousness is an illusion. Why? They intuitively recognize consciousness, that is, awareness, as evidence against their materialism and for non-physical reality. Ironically though, even if it were an illusion, an illusion, being a concept, is non-physical, so that they can't even argue against such reality, since arguments too are non-physical.)
- Genomes are not physical. (They are information, that is, a genetic code, and can be losslessly copied onto different media; and while nothing physical can hitch a ride on a photon, a genome's information can be transported on fiber cable, for example at light speed, which is just another indication of its nonphysicality; etc.)
- Pain is not physical. (Non-sentient plants feel no pain; brain surgeons operate with a local anesthetic for the skull but without anesthetizing the brain, for the brain is the organ that feels no pain, yet ironically, it is the only organ where pain is "felt"; emotional pain is far greater than physical pain, for example, the excruciating pain of childbirth can be overcome in hours whereas even years often minimally mitigate the emotional pain that comes from the loss of a child; for physical pain first must to be translated into to the non-physical realm of awareness before being "felt"; etc.)
- Your mind is not physical. (One minor illustration of this occurs when neurosurgeons magnetically or physically stimulate the part of the brain that causes a patient to lift an arm, and the patient says that while he is completely aware that his arm lifted, he is also aware that "he" is not the one who made the decision to lift his arm.)
- Laws are not physical. (This is true of perhaps all laws and certainly of criminal laws, civil laws, social rules, house rules, etc. Yet consider even the physical laws. Are they made of matter? Apparently not. Are they made of energy? Apparently not. As one consideration, quantum laws are probabilistic, and probability is a concept and not physical.)
- And God is not physical.

* And How About Matter? There still remains the very difficult question, "What is matter?" What if it turns out that matter is not physical? Some suspect matter is information based, such that matter itself may not even be made of matter, so to speak. If so of course then, materialism is deader than a doorknob. But that wouldn't even give most of them pause. They'd just become godless spiritualists. Consider though how leading physicsts have wrestled with the fundamental nature of matter, and even whether it might be information based. Renowned physicist John Wheeler (1911-2008), a strong advocate of information theory, coined the terms "black hole" and "wormhole", collaborated with Einstein and Bohr, and advised graduate studnets Everett, Thorne, and Feynman. Wheeler described his career, and hence, his growing understanding of the universe, in three stages. First, "Everything is Particles." Second, "Everything is Fields." And finally, "Everything is Information." (To illustrate the uncertainty, see CIT's Sebens over at Aeon explains the raging uncertainty about whether electrons, etc., are actually particles or fields.) And over at BigThink in a 2017 article, The basis of the universe may not be energy or matter but information, they quote Wheeler's 1989 paper for the Santa Fe Institute:

"every it--every particle, every field of force, even the space-time continuum itself--derives its function, its meaning, its very existence entirely--even if in some contexts indirectly--from the apparatus-elicited answers to yes-or-no questions, binary choices, bits."

And Philip Perry at BigThink continues:

There are lots of theories on what are the basis of the universe is. Some physicists say its subatomic particles. Others believe its energy or even space-time. One of the more radical theories suggests that information is the most basic element of the cosmos. Although this line of thinking emanates from the mid-20th century, it seems to be enjoying a bit of a Renaissance among a sliver of prominent scientists today...

If the nature of reality is in fact reducible to information itself, that implies a conscious mind on the receiving end, to interpret and comprehend it.

There is much in quantum mechanics that supports that. And the scientific origin even of the (absurd) multiverse/many-worlds belief was exactly an effort to avoid the implied requirement of consciousness which appears to many brilliant minds to be at the heart of physics. (See Of course though in his article, like in that excerpt, Perry skips the conscious Mind that would first be on the transmiting end.

IBM's Phil Tetlow, writing of MIT, CIT, CMU's Edward Fredkin, sometimes Feynman collaborator, someimes physics professor, quotes him saying, "I've come to the conclusion tha the most concrete thing in the world is information" and as Wired puts it, Fredkin insisted that "everything we see and feel is information."

Reairing: The Most Informative Neanderthal Show Ever!

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* How To Get Your Hands on a Neanderthal Skull: Did the guys just stumble upon the most informative interview ever in the history of the study of Neanderthals? In the year 2000, television and radio teacher D. James Kennedy conducted a groundbreaking interview on the subject. But by producing this program, Real Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams get to incorporate the latest genetic research while interviewing Dr. Jack Cuozzo, the jaw and teeth expert who has studied firsthand and x-rayed more Neanderthal skulls than anyone else, ever. This program is from the RSR Archives! And just click for part 2 with Dr Cuozzo!

* Neanderthals took Aspirin and Penicillin: Aches and pains? According to a 2017 paper in the journal Nature, Neanderthals chewed on poplar bark. And a throat infection? Research indicates they ate moldy bread to treat various ailments.  

* DNA Doesn't Lie! Neanderthals were MAN: Jack Cuozzo's 1979 museum work beginning in Paris is effectively a dated creationist prediction, as reiterated in his 1998 book Buried Alive, as are other creationists' writings. About three decades later, geneticists sequenced the entire Neanderthal genome and in 2013 they have doubly confirmed that Neanderthals used spoken language (of course), and with these scientific observations, they have confirmed the creationist prediction and proved wrong many of the world's leading evolutionists who had long claimed that Neanderthals were not Homo sapiens. The young age of the earth, and that life had to be specially created because it is information based, prove that Man was specially created and that there never was such a thing as an ape/human ancestor. Now, DNA proves that Neanderthal men and women were fully man, that is, they were Homo sapiens, because along with many other indicators, genetically they are closer to modern humans than two living chimps of the same species are to one another! Also, Dr. Cuozzo's work provides scientific reinforcement of the implication of Genesis that today's Homo sapiens age much more quickly than did human beings from a few millennia ago.

* Film At 11: If you prefer, instead of just listening to today's Neanderthal program, you can watch it on Youtube...

For 2020 and the New Year on RSR: The 360-Day Year

360 Day Year logo from the website* Did the whole world once use a 360-day calendar? If so, why? From the RSR Archives, hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams look at the Mayans, Egyptians, Aztecs, Indians, Sumerians, Babylonians, Greeks, Romans, Chinese, and the Hebrew Bible to answer the first question: Yes, ancient civilizations used a 360-day calendar. To answer the question why, one must keep in mind the sophistication of ancient astronomers. NASA reports that in 650 B.C., "Mayan astronomers [made] detailed observations of Venus, leading to a highly accurate calendar." And the Encyclopedia of Time says of the Aztecs that, "they carried on and further developed calendrical traditions that had their roots some 2,000 years before their own time." Real Science Radio investigates the reason why the ancient world used a 360-day calendar and discusses a mechanism for speeding up the rotation of the Earth that in historical times could add 5.24 days to the year. See more at

* RSR on YouTube: You're invited to check out RSR's 360-day year program turned into this important YouTube video:

Nativity Circulatory System Changes for Jesus, et al.

Adult human circulatory system

Jospeh Kezele on the Change from Fetal to Newborn Circulation: Fetal human circulationFor Christmas previously Real Science Radio would broadcast our Star of Bethlehem program. In 2019 we move from the heavens above to the "lowest parts of the earth", as the Hebrew idiom has it, to the mother's womb (Job 1:21; Ps. 139:15). RSR host Bob Enyart asks Joseph Kezele, M.D., three questions. As a rule, the blood of the child in the womb and of his mother don't mix. So how can it be that the baby's blood gets its oxygen and nutrients from the mother's blood? And if we adults make our blood cells in our bone marrow, where does the unborn child makes his?

Mary with Child, used by permission of Kay Eneim.Then finally, because the baby gets his oxygen from mom and not from his own lungs, there must be significant changes at birth in the child's circulatory system. So what changes in the circulatory system architecture happen at birth? Dr. Joseph Kezele, M.D. from the University of Arizona and president of the Arizona Origin Science Association, is a principle presenter in the Institute for Creation Research video series, Made in His Image!

* Today's RSR Resource: Check out Trading Genesis on DVD, HD Download, and Blu-ray! Pepperdine University in California has long enjoyed a reputation as a leading conservative Christian institution. Today, however, Pepperdine’s faculty teaches theistic evolution. Though affiliated with the Church of Christ, the theistic evolution of the school’s science and theology professors is indistinguishable from the methodological naturalism of the atheist. Recently, the administration denied a request by some Pepperdine alumni to present a lecture on biblical creation. Not deterred, both longtime and recent graduates organized their own creation-evolution conference on the school’s campus and advertised it in the Malibu Times newspaper. 

RSR's Trading Genesis!The organizers invited Bob Enyart, the host of Denver-based Real Science Radio, to speak at the event held concurrently with the school's heavily-attended Bible Lectureship series. Enyart demonstrated with seven examples that the atheistic materialist worldview does not even have a theory of origins for anyone to side with. And thus, Pepperdine University has traded away special creation (and many other biblical teachings, also listed in this presentation) for absolutely nothing. 

See also Bob Enyart's debate with an acclaimed British author at Enjoy the fun science facts at And see more about this Pepperdine event at

Regarding the Lord's death, which day of the week was that?

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Bob Enyart, host of Real Science Radio, grew up Roman Catholic and remembers wondering how Jesus could have been three days and nights in the tomb if He died late Friday and was raised early Sunday. Tonight, Friday Dec. 13 at the Rocky Mountain Creation Fellowship at Littleton Baptist Church 1400 W Caley Ave, hear RSR friend Dr. Grady McMurtry, highly qualified to address the matter, answer the question, What day of the week was it when Jesus died? See also Dr. McMurtry's site and the pages mentioned on today's program: and, to dismiss the superstition associated with today being Friday the 13th, see Finally, just fyi, in the after-interview chit chat, Dr. McMurtry and Bob discussed the 360 day year and Grady affirmed his conclusion that yes, when God created the Earth it's original, pre-flood calendar was a complete solar year of 360 days!

Today's Resource: Evidence Against the Big Bang


When people wonder what evidence exists for the Big Bang, many ask Google. And not surprisingly, when folks search for: evidence against the Big Bang, Google sends most of them on over to Real Science Radio's List of Evidence Against the Big Bang. Yet this is surprising: When NASA urges you to trust the theory because of its confirmed "predictions", folks who Google: big bang predictions, also find RSR's article ranked #1!

This video can help prepare you for the coming revolution in cosmology. The nine pieces of evidence presented herein are bringing people out of the failed science of the 1900s and into the 21st century demanding truth regarding both the origin of universe and ultimately, the origin of ourselves.

And now, let's leave out the word "predictions" and leave out the word "against". Increasingly, when scientists and others just Google: big bang evidence, the search engine is sending them on over to RSR's evidence AGAINST the Big Bang! So whether you are a creationist or even if you're dug in still defending the old scheme on the origin of the cosmos, you'll want to watch this video to catch up with the latest amazing science on the big bang! 

Big Bang Video Endorsements

- Former NASA Cassini Saturn mission lead ground systems administrator David Coppedge:
"Great work on the Big Bang video! It's excellent. You did your homework and the information is presented clearly at the right level for most people. I like how you preemptively close off comeback arguments from materialists."
Coppedge is a board member of the group that produced the Privileged Planet video.

- Australian physicist, cosmologist, professor, and award-winning co-creator of the world's most precise clock, physicist Dr. John Hartnett:
"I recommend that you buy and watch RSR's Big Bang video! I find it to be excellent. During RSR's on-air debate with Lawrence Krauss, this leading big bang proponent said that, 'All evidence overwhelmingly supports the big bang.' So RSR began assembling a list of peer-reviewed evidence against the paradigm which led to this great video!"

Evidence Against the Big Bang - Blu-ray, DVD or Video Download

Information Theory & the Demise of Darwinism

Fred Williams presentation Information Theory and the Demise of Darwinism Real Science Radio co-host Fred Williams has just given his information theory presentation to four creation groups in Colorado and now brings it to our podcast and broadcast airwaves on America's most-powerful Christian radio station, the 50,000-watt AM 670 KLTT. What did one of the most accomplished physicists in history mean when he said, "Everything is information?" What is information? Why do so many materialists desperately claim that information is physical? Bob Enyart and Fred explore these questions and more.

* SETI SAYS: Fred often points out the ubiquitous hypocrisy in the materialist claim that there is no scientific way to search for evidence of intelligent design. The darling of atheists, SETI, the Search for Extraterrestrial Intellgence, has wasted billions of dollars through decades of distraction from hard science and has a likely opportunity cost far beyond that cash outlay. Yet SETI's website states the obvious. RSR Question: What are one of the ways that you could tell that you’ve detected intelligence? SETI's Answer: "The existence of coded information on the signal." Just. Like. DNA.

Apologetics_1_Store.pngToday's Resource: Apologetics Holiday Package #1

At its core, evangelism is sharing the good news of salvation, forgiveness, and grace. Without these, the world would be completely lost, we'd have a world full of despair and sin, and we would have to face the consequence of that sin- death. But thankfully Jesus came and died on the cross to save us from our sin. Then as Christians, we're called to go into the world and spread the news that He has saved us. Only... the world isn't exactly eager to believe. Sharing the Gospel has proved difficult for many Christians. Luckily, Bob Enyart Live has been putting out resources for years showing Christians how to defend their faith in the Bible. This package is a great resource if you're looking to train yourself in evangelism.

What you'll receive:

-Confronting an Atheist
-Defending the Faith
-Evidence Against the Big Bang
-Trading Genesis

Darwin's Finches in Hyperspeed! Interviewing Dr. Lee Spetner

Dr. Lee Spetner's book cover for his Evolution Revolution* Lee Spetner Finally on RSR: Real Science Radio host Bob Enyart interviews American Israeli scientist Dr. Lee Spetner. Brace yourself to hear about what happened to 40 colonies of bacteria and also about what happened to birds of a single species of finch, not over a period of 2.3 million years (as with Darwin's, allegedly) but over only 17 years! (This broadcast forms part of our years-long metaseries interviewing leading intelligent design advocates and scientists associated with the Discovery Institute.)

* Enjoy Dr. Spetner's Evolution Revolution: As discussed on today's program, Spetner's second book, The Evolution Revolution, further confirms his non-random evolution model. You can get it at Amazon!

* Finches Adapt in 17 Years, Not 2.3 Million: As for Charles Darwin's finches, they're claimed to have taken 2,300,000 years to diversify from an initial species blown onto the Galapagos Islands. Yet individuals from a single finch species on a U.S. Bird Reservation in the Pacific were introduced to a group of small islands 300 miles away and in at most 17 years, lPhoto of a finchike Darwin's finches, they had diversified their beaks, related muscles, and behavior to fill various ecological niches. See also Jean Lightner's review of the Grants' 40 Years.

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Dr. Gary Parker on RSR Pt. 2

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Creation Facts of Life, cover, book by Dr. Gary ParkerReal Science Radio host Bob Enyart concludes his interview (see Part 1) with creation science legend Dr. Gary Parker. Bob's co-host Fred Williams many years ago came to reject the theory of evolution by reading What is Creation Science? by Dr. Parker and Dr. Henry Morris. A former atheist, Gary was a member of the American Society of Zoologists and a recipient of a National Science Foundation fellowship award. Also, while he was an evolutionist Dr. Parker co-authored one of the first DNA books ever written, the 1966 DNA: The Key to Life but by the writing of the 2nd Edition of 1977, he had become a creationist and realized what should have been obvious in the first edition, the brilliant and majestic design of the genome. One of his later books, Creation: Facts of Life, is subtitled How Real Science Reveals the Hand of God. We hope you enjoy this walk down the creation science memory lane with one of the greats!

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