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Welcome to Real Science Radio: Co-hosts Fred Williams and Doug McBurney talk about science to debunk evolution and to show the evidence for the creator God including from biology, genetics, geology, history, paleontology, archaeology, astronomy, philosophy, cosmology, math, and physics. (For example, mutations will give you bad legs long before you'd get good wings.) We get to debate Darwinists and atheists like Lawrence Krauss, AronRa, and Eugenie Scott. We easily take potshots from popular evolutionists like PZ Myers, Phil Plait, and Jerry Coyne. The RSR Archive contains our popular List Shows! And we interview the outstanding scientists who dare to challenge today's accepted creed that nothing created everything.

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Baraminologist Dr. Roger Sanders on RSR

* Baraminology Author in Studio: Real Science Radio interviews Dr. Roger Sanders of Bryan College. What's baraminology? It's a furtherance of Adam's first task, which was to name the animals, into a classification of living things within the framework of the created kinds as described in Genesis. The anti-creationist National Center for Science Education begrudgingly states, in an article by Alan Gishlick, that creationist researchers including Dr. Sanders, "practice a form of systematics, called 'baraminology', and for creationist science it is surprisingly rigorous and internally consistent." RSR is happy to accept that compliment on behalf of creationists and reminds our audience of Bob's debate with the NCSE president Eugenie Scott that you can watch on DVD or listen to right here on Real Science Radio at KGOV.com. Also briefly discussed was biogeography which studies the dispersion of animals around the world, where Darwinists are beginning to more readily agree with creationists about the transport of countless animals far distances across ocean currents on floating log mats (with the biblical creationists alone acknowledging that this occurred after the global flood, all within less than the past 5,000 years). Update: In 2012 for financial reasons Bryan College closed their Center for Origins Research.

* Is there a Genetic Bottleneck in Land Animals? Because a global flood destroyed almost all land animals and birds only thousands of years ago, Bob asked Dr. Sanders if marine animals have been shown to have greater genetic diversity than bird and land animals. Dr. Sanders recalled that a study done on land and marine turtles showed greater genetic diversity among sea turtles. Evolutionists believe that sea turtles evolved from land-dwelling creatures, so if evolution were true, genetically we would expect to see the opposite of what we expect to see from the perspective of a recent global flood. This Turtle Topic reminds RSR of one of our recurring themes, that the fossil records documents stasis rather than evolution, as in this quote from Bob Strauss on turtle evolution: "the basic turtle body plan arose very early in the history of life (during the late Triassic period), and has persisted pretty much unchanged down to the present day... Paleontologists still haven't identified the EXACT family of prehistoric reptiles that spawned modern turtles and tortoises, but they do know one thing: it wasn't the placodonts." [RSR capitalized the letters of "exact" to call attention to this common style of the misleading use of words by evolutionists.]

* Research Project and Genetic Diversity Prediction between Clean and Unclean Animals: Biblically speaking, the difference between "clean" and "unclean" animals is that the clean animals were acceptable by God for sacrifice, and so God instructed Noah to bring seven pairs of clean animals on the ark. As a result, even though some of these clean animals would have been offered up as sacrifices, a creationist prediction of Real Science Radio is that there may be greater genetic diversity among today's descendants of the clean land animals as compared to unclean land animals.

* As Few as 1,000 Pairs of Animals on the Ark: In 2013, Real Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams discussed a wonderful article about the significant research project underway at Answers in Genesis (and other creation research centers) to identify the created kinds among land animals so that we can learn more about our Creator God, the creatures He made, and about how much work it would have been for Noah's family to clean up after all those critters! Of course, per God's criteria reported by Moses in Genesis, no bacteria, insects, plants, nor fish had to be brought onto the ark. So roughly speaking, by generally counting "kinds", and usually not "species", current research indicates that there could have been as few as 2,000 animals on the ark.

Which technologies needed Darwin or an old earth?

Nicholas Steno flood geologist 1638-1686* Two Wild Claims by Whorton and Roberts: Real Science Radio co-hosts Fred Williams and Bob Enyart debunk two wild claims made in an old-earth book, "Holman QuickSource Guide to Understanding Creation" by Mark Whorton and Hill Roberts.

* Wild Claim #1: Flood Geology began with Ellen White (1827 – 1915) and the Seventh Day Adventists. Somehow the authors missed the entire history of geology including the previous centuries of writings by leading geologists, quotes from early church fathers, and the history of the world's oldest national scientific organization, the Geological Society of London. Terry Mortenson, with a PhD in the history of geology from Coventry University in England, has an excellent article Where Did the Idea of "Millions of Years" Come From? that reports on the young-earth flood geology view that prevailed before Charles Lyell. An article on the Geological Society's website, God and the Geologists, doesn't mention Ellen White but does state that a book, Geology and Religion, published to coincide with their 200th anniversary, summarizes the modern history of geology saying that: "A prominent topic is that of ‘Flood Geology’. Originating alongside geology itself in the 18th Century, the theory held that the current geological features of the Earth have resulted from a global flood, as described in the Genesis account of Noah’s Ark. The theory was a popular one for centuries... Now, however, flood geology is undergoing resurgence as part of the increasingly prevalent creationist movement."

RSR: The Origin of Fingerprints

Neo-darwinism cannot create fingerprints* Can Darwinism Make Fingerprints? RSR co-hosts Fred Williams and Bob Enyart talk about the evolution of Real Science Radio and the origin of fingerprints!

* Can Fingerprints Evolve? The fingerprint information management and maintenance system goes so far beyond and is so completely irrelevant to any physical gripping benefit of providing ridges for tactile functionality, that fingerprints could not evolve by the neo-Darwinist mechanisms of mutation and natural selection. Fingerprints in gorillas, chimpanzees, koala bears, and humans cannot evolve by any Darwinian process because no survival benefit in the wild could be conferred by any of the functional requirements in its complex multipart system. Having no theoretical survival value means that evolution is back to pre-Darwinian days before natural selection was considered as a possible way of answering the mathematical impossibility of evolution. Consider however that the following system requirements provide no survival value, thus the large commitment of resources to develop and transmit this system cannot be explained by evolution:

  1. the system draws the design by an algorithm that develops and maintains the information for the pattern
  2. the system ensures that the pattern will survive and even re-emerge through most injuries to fingers
  3. the system will vary the design between billions of individuals
  4. the system draws the prints not as raster images (in pixels), but with mathematically defined vectors
  5. the system begins to implement the unique prints in early fetal development
  6. the fingerprints will scale as tiny digits grow from infancy, through puberty and into adulthood
  7. the system, unlike random static on a TV screen (or sand on sandpaper),
      varies the design in human-discernible patterns
  8. the system will produce raised surfaces consisting primarily of continuous curved lines
  9. the system will produce non-intersecting pathways that create clean patterns without crossed lines
10. the process of skin formation including the programmed death of billions of skin cells to constantly reform
      the epidermis will not alter the programmed pattern.

RSR: Plants Know Up from Down

Heavy cell structures sink showing the plant which way is up* Why Don't All People Know the Same? Not all people know up from down, but plant cells do. Real Science Friday co-hosts Fred Williams and Bob Enyart discuss plants, beetles, and sharks as described in Ken Ham's current Answers magazine!

* Plant Cells Make Statoliths that Sink: How does the root know which way is down, and the stem know which way is up? Plant cells make statoliths that are dense and heavy (lith is a Greek root, pun intended, for stone) and when the statoliths sink, like a stone, the plant knows which was is up and which way is down. Isn't God cool?

Bob piloting chopper during attack... not!* Beetles Seek Out Forest Fires: The Melanophila beetle can sense a forest fire by detecting a few parts per billion of smoke particles and by it's infrared capability that exceeds the military's in sophistication! Bob describes using an infrared vision system in the Apache helicopter.

* Did You Know that Sharks are Warm-Blooded? If not, don't feel bad. Neither did they! Sharks can maintain their body temperatures up to 38 degrees Farenheit higher than the surrounding ocean temperature. And they do this using the same technology used in giraffes, camels, and birds. 

RSR: Now Soft Tissue from a Mosasaur!

Original biological material from an allegedly 70M yr old Mosasaur* Iron-clad Dinosaur-era Soft-tissue: 2019 Update: See our acclaimed list at bflist.rsr.org.

Co-hosts Fred Williams and Bob Enyart talk about last week's stunning peer-reviewed report of yet another soft-tissue discovery (after such finds from a T. rex, a hadrosaur, and archeopteryx). This time scientists from secular universities in Europe and America use sophisticated  techniques to rule out modern contamination, and conclude that original biological material exists from a relatively small bone from an allegedly 70-million year old extinct marine reptile called a Mosasaur. The electron microscope was invented in 1931 and even from 1903 the ultramicroscope could study objects smaller than the wavelength of light. Thus more than a century of lost opportunity has passed with perhaps millions of fossils improperly handled because evolutionary bias has been so stifling that countless scientists likely never even considered looking for original biological material.

RSR: Faster in Air than on Sand

Lizard running with two feet in the air* Lizards, Footprints, Rafts, and Buckyballs: Co-hosts Fred Williams and Bob Enyart talk about articles from the latest issue of Creation magazine, April - June 2011.

* Lizards Move Quickly on Sand: Engineers at the Georgia Institute of Technology have copied God's design for lizard locomotion on sand and transferred it to a robot called SandBot. The lizards, like other creatures, move their limbs so quickly as they run that they would get stuck in the sand except that, as God designed them, while their feet are in contact with the sand, those limbs move relatively more slowly to provide stability, and when they pick their foot up, they move much more quickly through the air to get them in place for the next step. (If this is confusing, just watch Bob demonstrate it on today's program :)  The discipline of biomimetics helps to create technologies to improve the lives of human beings by copying God's design in nature, such as by the automobile industry from the boxfish, and quieter computer fans inspired by owls wings!

Clarence Darrow ACLU OK with Obama as Closer to Ape

Darwin's Favored (human) Races* Real Science Radio: Biggest ACLU Case Ever Depicted in Racist Photo of Obama with Apes: Bob Enyart criticizes  the white tea party activist who distributed a despicable racist image (see below) of Barack Obama being closely related to apes. However, during the Scopes Monkey Trial the ACLU and Clarence Darrow advocated for the public schools to teach from a textbook which presented blacks and other minorities at the bottom of an evolutionary ladder which of course had whites like Darrow and the ACLU lawyers at the top. The title of the textbook, "Civic Biology," reveals the author's complicity with the Darwinist eugenics movement which forcibly sterilized 60,000 Americans and led to far worse here and around the world.

RSR: What Museums Aren't Showing You

A mammal that ate a dinosaur* 432 Mammal Species in Dinosaur Layers: Dr. Carl Werner's research of the world's leading museums presents amazing findings. Did you know that mammals ate dinosaurs? Co-hosts Fred Williams and Bob Enyart discuss Don Batten's interview of Dr. Werner and the how museums downplay the 432 mammal species excavated by paleontologists from dinosaur layers. Fred is with the Creation Research Society, and on this episode of Real Science Radio the guys again draw from both the latest issue of Creation magazine, April - June 2011 and the Winter 2011 CRSQ Creation Research Society Quarterly.

* Dinosaurs ATE Birds :) In a related development, another dinosaur has been discovered with birds in its stomach, which is certainly interesting considering the claim that dinosaurs evolved into birds (like from Jack Horner).

* Mammals ATE Dinosaurs :) See below.

* 2015 UPDATE Now 433 Mammal Species in Dinosaur Layers:  An 5-inch fossil skull excavated on Madagascar resembles that of a modern groundhog, only double the size. See this in the Spring 2015 Creation magazine and at the National Science Foundation's website

* Dinosaurs Co-existed with Mammals: For additional perspective on our interview with Dr. Werner, from the 2013 Spring CRSQ, "even though evolutionists have grudgingly accepted mammalian and dinosaurian co-existence in recent years, they have not always done so" (Robert Brown, Otis Kline, et al. 2013. A Partial Mandible in the Stomach Contents of a Tyrannosaurus rex. CRSQ 49(4):265-280). RSR friend Kline and his co-authors also wrote that, "The [mammal prey] evidence, which revealed itself so quickly in this study, suggests that a biblical starting point would have advanced dinosaurian knowledge by decades."

* Mammal Species in Dino Layers Downplayed: From Dr. Batten's great interview of Carl Werner: "Paleontologists have found 432 mammal species in the dinosaur layers; almost as many as the number of dinosaur species. … But where are these fossils? We visited 60 museums but did not see a single complete mammal skeleton from the dinosaur layers displayed at any of these museums. This is amazing." See this documented in Dr. Carl Werner's tremendous DVD, Living Fossils!

Prehistoric Museum, Utah* Evolutionary Paleontologist Describes Mammals Everywhere: “We find mammals in almost all of our [dinosaur dig] sites. These were not noticed years ago," said Dr. Donald Burge, curator of vertebrate paleontology at the Prehistoric Museum of Price, Utah. Great quantities of hard data that don't fit the evolutionary bias can be almost invisible to the entire scientific community, as for example countless countradictory "radiometric" dates and galaxies worth of evidence against the big bang. "We have about 20,000 pounds of bentonite clay," continued Burge, "that has mammal fossils that we are trying to give away to some researcher. It’s not that they are not important. It’s just that you only live once and I specialized in something other than mammals. I specialize in reptiles and dinosaurs." That's not surprising. Specializing in Jurassic-layer mammal fossils would not exactly help a Darwinist's career! See rsr.org/slaughter.

* Mammals ATE Dinosaurs: Of course. Evolutionists are not surprised that crocodiles ate dinosaurs. But that they ate birds (see above) challenges their birds-from-dinosaurs claim. And paleontology's "age of the reptiles" narrative leaves them needing to "revolutionize" their thinking when they realized, as reported in the journal Nature and in National Geographic, that mammals ate dinosaur. (See excerpts below including that while dinosaurs roamed, mammals were much bigger (of course) than the rodent-size claimed for them.
 
* Dinosaurs ATE Rice: Even though the Darwinist model claims that rice evolved millions of years later, paleontologists studying fossilized dung (coprolite) discovered that Titanosaurs ate rice plants! See in the journal Science Dinosaur Coprolites and the Early Evolution of Grasses. (We added the italics there and note that this "early" means millions of years early!) And and you may especially enjoy the article by Brian Thomas over at the Institute for Creation Research, Dinosaurs Ate Rice.
 

* See Online Carl Werner's List of Living Fossils: Dr. Werner's List of Living Fossils was put online by RSR with the help of ICR's Brian Thomas.  While Wikipedia's list of these "Lazarus" fossils is helpful, Carl's list is even more valuable because it records which layer or layers (i.e., "periods" or systems), the Triassic, Jurrasic, or Creataceous, that a fossil was excavated from. Our online list is nothing but text, whereas Dr. Werner's DVD has the highest production value and his hardcovered Living Fossils work is as beautiful as any coffee table book. Both the DVD and the book are filled with stunning photographs documenting the fossils and the living organisms. RSR highly recommends both of these valuable resources! You can purchase the beautiful Living Fossils book and DVD by clicking those links!

* The Pygmy Whale Living Fossil: In case you're interested, yet another living fossil was discovered, the Pygmy Whale, a member of "a group thought to have gone extinct 2 million years ago." This LiveScience article is also interesting for its acknowledgement of the extremely flexible methodology evolutionists use to try to show common descent. For example, note how Darwinists could select from DNA, or the shape of the snout, or to general similarities in the fossil record, or specifically to the skull, to make a claim of what evolved from what.

RSR: Spiders & Termites & Magnets

Evolve a spider, then a web, then the sticky stuff...* Spider Webs, Termite Mounds, Earth's Magnetic Force: Co-hosts Fred Williams with Creation Research Society, and Bob Enyart, on this episode of Real Science Radio draw from the latest issue of Creation magazine, April - June 2011 and the Winter 2011 CRSQ Creation Research Society Quarterly. The guys start the show asking how, theoretically, vital organs could evolve, since by definition, they are vital.

- Spider Glue: Not only is the spider's web stronger than any man-made material including Kevlar and steel, but the spider applies twenty drops of glue per millimeter so that insects will get stuck. So, first you have to evolve a spider, then a web, and then the sticky stuff. But this sticky stuff is a "smart material" that holds tighter when an insect is moving quickly trying to get away, but the glue loosens up when the spider slowly moves the dead bug into the kitchen. Oh yeah, and by the way, the glue polymers are cross-linked so that when a bug pulls to get away the force of the adhesion will spread throughout the entire drop of glue. Too cool. And speaking of cool...

RSR: Now Biological Material from Archaeopteryx

* Archaeopteryx, Bison, Pelican, Chimp, & Cancer: Fred Williams engineer and webmaster for the Creation Research Society, and Bob Enyart, on this episode of Real Science Radio draw from the latest peer-reviewed science journal article on original biological material and from Creation magazine,  April - June 2011.

* July 2011 Update from Nature: Not Transitional: It's official. Archaeopteryx is no longer considered a transitional creature from dinosaurs to modern birds. Nature News & Views admits that this "icon" of evolution has been "knocked from its perch" after leading palaeontologists reassessed "the creature that has been considered the evolutionary link between the two." Also, Nature News reported that Archaeopteryx had been "the ideal 'missing link' with which to demonstrate evolution from non-avian dinosaurs to [modern] birds." Why the reassessment? A paper in the journal Nature reports a result that "challenges the centrality of Archaeopteryx in the transition to birds" and that "shifts Archaeopteryx" out of the modern bird lineage. In the popuar press, Wired admits, "Archaeopteryx‘s status as the forerunner of modern birds is crumbling" and in the science press, Discover News laments that, "Archaeopteryx [is] likely removed from the bird family tree". Demonstrating the adage that evidence for evolution devolves over time, along with "vestigial" organs, Nebraska Man, and our "backwardly" wired retina, after 150 years of being the transitional trump card, Archaeopteryx is out (except for the typical 100-year lag in the published scientific discoveries and the outdated claims published in evolutionary textbooks). And as for the Chinese fossils that knocked Archaeopteryx off its perch, remember the late Larry Martin, University of Kansas paleontologist, whom CNN reported as cautioning, "You have to put this into perspective. To the people who wrote the paper, the chicken would be a feathered dinosaur."

Archaeopteryx fossil contains original biological material!* More Dinosaur-Layer Biological Material Discovered: After previous discoveries of actual dinosaur soft tissue (T. rex, hadrosaur, triceratops, etc.), now The Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences reports that various types of original biological material in Archaeopteryx feathers and bones has allegedly survived for 150 million years. The New Scientist report, Soft tissue remnants discovered in Archaeopteryx, put it:

"It boasts more than just... impressions of long-gone feathers. One of the world's most famous fossils... Archaeopteryx – also contains remnants of the feathers' soft tissue. ... "It's amazing that that chemistry is preserved after 150 million years." ... palaeontologists had long thought that only impressions remained. [But] 'There is soft-tissue chemistry preserved in places that people didn't expect it,' says [geochemist Roy] Wogelius."

That link in this New Scientist article goes to a similar article with this title: Tyrannosaurus rex fossil gives up precious protein.