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Welcome to Real Science Radio: Co-hosts Fred Williams and Doug McBurney talk about science to debunk evolution and to show the evidence for the creator God including from biology, genetics, geology, history, paleontology, archaeology, astronomy, philosophy, cosmology, math, and physics. (For example, mutations will give you bad legs long before you'd get good wings.) We get to debate Darwinists and atheists like Lawrence Krauss, AronRa, and Eugenie Scott. We easily take potshots from popular evolutionists like PZ Myers, Phil Plait, and Jerry Coyne. The RSR Archive contains our popular List Shows! And we interview the outstanding scientists who dare to challenge today's accepted creed that nothing created everything.

RSR airs every Friday at 3pm MST on AM 670 KLTT in Denver, Colorado. For rebroadcast times and podcast platforms, see our Affiliates page.

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RSR: Pain is NOT Physical

* Pain is NOT Physical: This special edition of Real Science Radio is adapted from the BEL Forum at Pain and Sentience are Knowledge Based, and Knowledge is Not Physical! Therefore, pain is not physical. Consider the three aspects of various created organisms and beings, body, soul, and spirit.

- A Plant has a Body: do not have souls (which are non-material), and when you chop down a tree, it does not feel pain (a 1960s science fiction TV show notwithstanding).
- An Animal has a Body and Soul: in addition to a body, animals have a non-material component, a rudimentary soul as indicated in Genesis 1:24 and elsewhere. A soul enables animals to sense pain, and so that many can relate to other animals and to human beings.
- A Person has a Body, Soul, and Spirit: God made human beings with a body, soul, and spirit (1 Thes. 5:23, etc.), and thus we have a far greater capacity to enjoy the depths of relationship, and also therefore, to experience pain.

* Pain is Comprehension: Pain is awareness; and awareness is not physical. Neurologists claim that we sense pain with our brain. As evidence for that, they show that nerve damage can prevent the signal from an injury from reaching the brain, and in such cases, many patients indicate that they do not feel pain from that injury. However, the brain as an organ itself is completely unable to feel pain. When a brain surgeon operates and cuts into brain matter, the patient does not feel pain from that surgery. Why not? How can the brain, possibly the only organ that does not sense pain, be the very organ by which we sense pain? The answer only appears after realizing from the nature of pain itself, that pain is not physical.

* Pain is Non-Physical: Pain is awareness, which is a state of knowledge. You can program a robot to back up suddenly if it bumps into a wall, and even to yell, "Ouch." But it hasn't felt pain, because it is only made of atoms and molecules, and can have no awareness, because like many very real things, sentience is not physical. The laws of logic are not physical (no mass, polarity, etc.), and neither is reason, nor the laws of grammar. Pain is awareness that something is wrong. Therefore pain is inherently non-physical, and so pain resulting from non-physical causes is dramatically more hurtful than pain resulting from physical stimuli. A paper cut on the eyeball really hurts. A father who will not look his disowned son in the eye is far more painful. The intense pain of childbirth passes quickly. The inconsolable pain of a child dying lasts for years. Physical pain dissipates more quickly because it must be converted to the non-physical realm for it to be experienced. Emotional and spiritual pain hits the soul and spirit directly, and so it persists longer and is more effective. If someone has been abandoned by his parents, he might be able to know the pain felt by the little one who is aborted, purposefully rejected by his mother, and intentionally killed, whether by a surgical or chemical abortion as with the Morning After Abortion Pill. A mother who doesn't have the willingness to love her child hurts him far beyond the physical impact of the abortion. Giving the child anesthesia will do little to alleviate his or her pain from the abortion, and nor will it help with the mother's pain when she meets that child, on Judgment Day.

RSR's First Fathers Show

* Many Fathers of the Natural Sciences Rejected Naturalistic Origins: Many leading fathers of the physical sciences, both before and after Darwin, rejected atheistic origins, like Copernicus, Bacon, Kepler, Galileo, Pascal, Boyle, Newton, Cuvier, Dalton before, and after Darwin including Faraday, Pasteur, Joule, Kelvin, Lister, Carver, who continued to advocate for special creation and reject evolution.

Incestuous Tomatoes

Banana Islamic Republic: Iran says (1) Israel must be destroyed, and (2) Hezbollah is winning the war. So then why is Iran leading the whole Islamic world in demanding a ceasefire? To spare the Jews? Puh-leez!

Bob Gets a Traffic Ticket: A simple ticket gives Bob the opportunity to expose the justice system's major conflict of interest (collecting fines), the temporary-insanity shoplifting defense, and the judges systematically training millions of people to lie to the court!

Remote Sensing Expert Dr. Holroyd on Noah's Ark

* Dr. Ed Holroyd: From teaching students at the University of Denver how to read satellite images, Dr. Ed Holroyd then brought his expertise to exciting ministry efforts including the search for Noah's Ark! This show is a Special Edition of Real Science Radio!

Atheist Admits Assumptions About Evil

Atheists claim The Problem of Evil disproves the existence of a good God. They argue that because the world is filled with evil, therefore a good God cannot exist, in part because He would have to prevent much or even all of that evil. Or, at the very least, a good God would have to prevent innocent victims from suffering as a result of actions performed by others. On today's program, first Bob rehashes with atheist Dr. John Henderson another fallacy, that you can only know that which your five senses tell you.