* RSR Answers Walt Brown Critics & HPT Problems: On today's Real Science Radio program, the first of eleven episodes in our ongoing HPT Answers series, Bob Enyart responds to Baumgardner, Patton, and Faulkner, three creationist critics of Dr. Walt Brown regarding alleged problems with his Hydroplate Theory. Just as you can ask three rabbis a question and get four answers, so too, other than the fundamentals, biblical creationists differ on particulars. Partly because of the popularity of Walt's website, his life's work, In the Beginning, is one of the best-selling creationist books, making Dr. Brown's theory widely supported including by many creation scientists and among rank-and-file creationists, by pastors and homeschool publishers, and among Bible students.

* If Walt Is Wrong -- If Walt Is Right: If Dr. Brown's model of the global flood is incorrect, then he and his supporters have held back the progress of creation science. Conversely of course, if Walt Brown's Hydroplate Theory is correct, then those who have opposed his efforts have slowed our progress. If Dr. Brown's theory is correct, then creationists have answers for:
- Why is the crust of the Earth cracked by the continuous 40,000-mile long mid-oceanic ridge? (rupture phase)
- Where did the water come from? (under the crust, divided from the surface water on Day 2 by the raqia/firmament)
- Why did the Moon get so beat up and especially its near side? (most impacts were during retrograde motion)
- Why did the ancient world use a 360-day calendar? (because that's how God created the Earth; 360dayyear.com)
- How did the Earth's rotation speed up by 5.25 days per year? (melting rock became the outer core, shrinking Earth)
- How did the Moon's orbit change from 30 to 29.5 days? (1.2% of debris ejected by the fountains of the great deep) 
- How did harmful radioactivity end up on the Earth? (earthquake lights in the crust produced uranium, thorium, etc.)  
- How did meteorites, comets, and asteroids originate? (the fountains of the deep ejected these deadly mavericks)
- To be continued...

Of course also, if the HPT is correct, then various favorite theories of other creation groups, including ICR's catastrophic plate tectonics, and the canopy theory, and AiG's frozen mammoths hypothesis and their ice age model, are incorrect.

* RSR's List of Answers to Hydroplate Theory Objections: This ongoing Answers series is part of our global flood metaseries available at rsr.org/hpt#metaseries. Many of these objections come from our own List of HPT Objections, just below.
1. List of Answers to Hydroplate Objections Pt 1 (this show, below, addresses Baumgardner and voltage from granite; astronomer Faulkner and the 360-day year; geologist Patton and the origin of limestone)
2. List of Answers to Hydroplate Objections Pt 2 (QuakeFinder's Tom Bleier on electromagnetic quake forecasting toward answering geophysicist John Baumgardner)
3. Josh Spencer Answers HPT Objections (email exchange with a CPT proponent on Pangea, CPT miracles, etc.)
4. Spencer Answers Radioactivity Objections (nuclear engineering Ph.D. on Walt's origin of Earth's radioactivity)
5. Kevin Lea Answers the "Geometry Problem" objection from Baumgardner
6. Kevin Lea Answers the "Pacific Crust" Objection from Dr. Baumgarnder
7. Bryan Nickel Answers the "Linear Crack" Objection from Michael Oard
8. Bob Enyart Answers the false accusation from Don DeYoung that Brown sued ICR
9. Jane Albright Addresses Creation Groups' Opposition including a criticism from Jonathan Sarfati
10. Nickel Answers Oard's' Missing Shoreline and Sediments of Grand Lake
11. Nickel Answers the HPT Heat Problem Objections from Kuban, Reed, Faulkner, & Baumgardner
12. Bob Enyart Answers Faulkner's 360-Day Year Problem
13. Fred Williams Answers the Genesis 1:8 Firmament Objection to the HPT about the raqia
14. The HPT has not been peer-reviewed. Lord-willing, RSR will broadcast this program in December 2021. Until then, feel free to see a summary of the answer to this objection at rsr.org/TNOs#hpt-peer-review.

* Shared RSR Google Spreadsheets on Flood Models: Our List of Answers to HPT Objections includes two spreadsheets. Click these links or screenshots to see them at Google Docs and to see them being discussed click the video times below.
- Bible Material Uniquely Supporting Various Flood Models aka Flood Models & Bible Verses
- Physical Features Requiring Explanation and Flood Models aka Flood Models & Features to Explain.

Bob discusses these two charts in RSR's flood video, at 2:06:00 for the Bible Verses chart and 3:06:45 for the Physical Features chart.

Published HPT Criticisms
- Hydroplate theory: the strongest theory? 2020
- Oard: Analysis of Walt Brown’s Flood Model 2013
- Faulkner: Was the Year Once 360 Days Long? 2012 [Enyart CRSQ reply 2013]
  An Analysis of Astronomical Aspects of the Hydroplate Theory 2013 (Check: Is this the 2013 paper Kuban mentioned re: heat problem?)
  Analysis of Walt Brown’s Model of a Pre-Flood 360-Day Year 2014
 Can One Astronomically Date the Flood within the Hydroplate Model? 2015
- Sarfati: Flood Models and Biblical Realism 2010
- Baumgardner: Flood Science Review Author-to-Author Critique 2011 [RSR reply 2014]
- McIntosh & Taylor, & Edmonson: Flood Models: The Need for an Integrated Approach 2000
- Other? Please email Bob@rsr.org.

YouTube, Forum, Etc. Criticisms
- Dr. Gregg Davidson: Evidence of a Young Earth?
- Joyce Arthur: A Few Silly Flaws In Walter Brown's Hydroplate Theory 1995 (Wikipedia external link)
- Southtown: Hydroplate Theory at ScienceForums.com 2007
- Gerard Jellison: Amazon ITB Review & 150p cmts/debate thread 2009, removed 2015; last 50pp copied by HPT supporter David B. Willis
- Glen Kuban: Brown’s Flood Model is All Wet 2015
- Other: Please email Bob@rsr.org.

* On this First Answers to Hydroplate Objections Program: Joining many on both sides, RSR asks everyone to extend grace to everyone else, as we conduct our own investigation into the objections to the HT, which theory we ourselves hold. For our initial program, we will consider three objections from well-known creationists:
- John Baumgardner, of Los Alamos Nat'l Lab and ICR, on voltages generated in granite.
- Danny Faulkner, former Univ. of South Carolina astronomer, now with AiG, on the 360-day year.
- Don Patton, excavated 500-foot long dinosaur track, exposed fraudulent Ark find, on Walt's limestone claims.

* Don Patton Objection on Limestone: While perhaps not in print, Don Patton, creationist geologist and archaeologist and real-life Indiana Jones has long repeated to people that Dr. Brown claims that, as a result of the fountains of the great deep breaking open during the global flood, the Earth's limestone deposits precipitated out of the atmosphere. In preparation for today's program, to address this unlikely claim, one of our RSR researchers obtained printed copies of all previous seven editions of Walt's In the Beginning along with the current 8th edition. Also, we searched the updated version of Dr. Brown's online Origin of Limestone chapter. After confirming that none of these sources ever claimed that limestone deposits formed by raining down out of the atmosphere, RSR spoke directly with Dr. Brown, who confirmed that he has never made such a claim. To Dr. Patton's credit, when we informed him of this, he indicated that it was important for him to hear this information, and he gladly accepted the correction.

* And Here's the HPT's Actual Explanation for Limestone: In a great 2019 video by Bryan Nickle... 

* Baumgardner Objection on Voltages Generated in Granite: In a 2011 author-to-author critique in the 1600-page Flood Science Review, Dr. John Baumgardner argued (p. 525) that Walt Brown must be wrong about the ability of granite to produce giga-voltages because, "there is no observational evidence that the quartz crystals in granite have ever been aligned as Brown postulates." And that, "This ought to represent a fatal problem for Brown’s claim that such extreme voltages will essentially arise automatically." After a lengthy phone conversation during which Bob Enyart presented the following evidence, Dr. Baumgardner continued to maintain his objection.

* Baumgardner's Objection Answered: In addition to Walt Brown citing explicit reports of quartz alignment in the scientific literature (#6 & #7 below), the smoking gun is the electrical current produced by earthquakes.

1. A Million Amps. 2013 report from National Geographic estimates the strength of the electrical currents produced by earthquakes: "These currents are huge... They're on the order of 100,000 amperes for a magnitude 6 earthquake and a million amperes for a magnitude 7. It's almost like lightning, underground." 2016 Update: Again, video of earthquake lights surface, this time after New Zealand's magnitude 7.8 quake. 2014 Update: A paper in the journal Seismological Research Letters is reported on in USA Today's Scientists find records of rare 'earthquake lights'.
2. USGS, Etc. Since 2010, in the Earthquakes and Electricity section of his online Origin of Earth's Radioactivity chapter, Walt has referenced extensive observational evidence of earthquakes generating electrical currents including from the New Madrid Earthquake, the most powerful to hit the eastern U.S. in recorded history, as reported by the USGS.

* Dr. Giem Takes Bob Back to College: Hear Real Science Radio's Bob Enyart interview Dr. Paul Giem, long-time assistant professor of emergency medicine at Loma Linda University. Having earned a B.A. in chemistry and an M.D., Dr. Giem went on to spend many years researching carbon-14 dating making him highly qualified to grade our RSR Carbon 14 Report! (Make sure to hear Pt. 1 first!)

* RSR Earns an A- from a Tough Professor: He's tough but fair! :) Dr. Giem graded our original RSR 14c report and so we've now made the corrections. Of course we're hoping that now that we've corrected the report, that it is A+ work providing trustworthy information for our RSR audience. And thank you Dr. Giem for your patience with your students and your careful research!

* Three Related Lines of Evidence Shoring Up the Young Earth Interpretation: The interaction between dinosaur soft tissue, unracemized left-handed amino acids, and Carbon 14 must all be explained to understand the true age of the geologic column. (1) Significant amounts of short-lived 14c is measured in diamonds, dinosaur fossils, natural gas, and coal. (2) There's mostly left-handed amino acids (not yet decayed to a 50/50 right-to-left ratio) in chert and dinosaur eggshells. (3) There's flexible and even transparent blood vessels, cells, and even T. rex and hadrosaur DNA (with a half-life of ~521 years) in dinosaur soft tissue fossils. Many such lines of evidence (multiplying as at youngearth.com) undermine the claim by old-earth geologists that the plentiful 14c in "ancient" specimens must come from contamination or neutron capture, and this evidence helps to confirm the young earth interpretation of the data.

* Since Carbon-14 is EVERYWHERE It Can't Be an Anomaly: Carbon 14 doesn't lie. Yet 14c is everywhere it shouldn't be. Unless from a secondary source, like contamination or neutron capture (described below), anything millions of years old should have NO Carbon-14. However, scientists are consistently finding C-14, as reported in 2011 in the journal PLoS One for an allegedly 80-million year old mosasaur, and as reported elsewhere in natural gas, limestone, fossil wood, coal, oil, graphite, marble, the ten dinosaurs described above, and even in supposedly billion-year-old diamonds. A secondary assumption by old-earth scientists proposes that the C-14 in diamonds (coal, etc.) must have come from N-14 (or C-13, etc.) and neutron capture. Theoretical physicist Lawrence Krauss (emphasis on the theoretical) told RSR that 14c in allegedly million-year-old specimens is an "anomaly." However, an anomaly is something that deviates from what is standard, normal, or expected. Because modern carbon exists in significant quantities, far above the reliability threshold of the AMS labs doing the tests, these results can no longer be called anomalies! It is now expected that organic specimens supposedly millions of years old will yield maximum C-14 ages of only thousands of years!

To see the full RSR Carbon-14 Report that is being graded by Dr. Giem, just click on over to rsr.org/14c.

* Dr. Giem Takes Bob Back to College: Hear Real Science Radio's Bob Enyart interview Dr. Paul Giem, long-time assistant professor of emergency medicine at Loma Linda University. Having earned a B.A. in chemistry and an M.D., Dr. Giem went on to spend many years researching carbon-14 dating making him highly qualified to grade our RSR Carbon 14 Report!

* Three Related Lines of Evidence Shoring Up the Young Earth Interpretation: The interaction between dinosaur soft tissue, unracemized left-handed amino acids, and Carbon 14 must all be explained to understand the true age of the geologic column. (1) Significant amounts of short-lived 14c is measured in diamonds, dinosaur fossils, natural gas, and coal. (2) There's mostly left-handed amino acids (not yet decayed to a 50/50 right-to-left ratio) in chert and dinosaur eggshells. (3) There's flexible and even transparent blood vessels, cells, and even T. rex and hadrosaur DNA (with a half-life of ~521 years) in dinosaur soft tissue fossils. Many such lines of evidence (multiplying as at youngearth.com) undermine the claim by old-earth geologists that the plentiful 14c in "ancient" specimens must come from contamination or neutron capture, and this evidence helps to confirm the young earth interpretation of the data.

* Since Carbon-14 is EVERYWHERE It Can't Be an Anomaly: Carbon 14 doesn't lie. Yet 14c is everywhere it shouldn't be. Unless from a secondary source, like contamination or neutron capture (described below), anything millions of years old should have NO Carbon-14. However, scientists are consistently finding C-14, as reported in 2011 in the journal PLoS One for an allegedly 80-million year old mosasaur, and as reported elsewhere in natural gas, limestone, fossil wood, coal, oil, graphite, marble, the ten dinosaurs described above, and even in supposedly billion-year-old diamonds. A secondary assumption by old-earth scientists proposes that the C-14 in diamonds (coal, etc.) must have come from N-14 (or C-13, etc.) and neutron capture. Theoretical physicist Lawrence Krauss (emphasis on the theoretical) told RSR that 14c in allegedly million-year-old specimens is an "anomaly." However, an anomaly is something that deviates from what is standard, normal, or expected. Because modern carbon exists in significant quantities, far above the reliability threshold of the AMS labs doing the tests, these results can no longer be called anomalies! It is now expected that organic specimens supposedly millions of years old will yield maximum C-14 ages of only thousands of years!

To see the full RSR Carbon-14 Report that is being graded by Dr. Giem, just click on over to rsr.org/14c.

* Special Edition of RSR: Our Real Science Radio programs typically air on Friday but we're posting this Wednesday Bob Enyart Live program as a bonus RSR show. A few weeks after this program we interviewed Stephen Meyer on his new book, Darwin's Doubt. In that book, this Discovery Institute fellow made a surprising comment about radiometric dating that begged for a response. So we invited Jay back to see what his response would be to that claim.

* Dr. Jay Wile on Radiometric Dating and Making Sausage: Bob Enyart interviews Rocky Mountain Creation Fellowship's speaker, Dr. Jay Wile, Ph.D. in nuclear chemistry, former asst. professor and researcher on Department of Energy and NSF projects. Dr. Wile will speak Friday on radiometric dating and (surprisingly) variable radioactive half-lives.

* Post-Show Updates:

* Atheists Attend this RMCF Event: The Denver Atheists Meetup Group encouraged participants to attend Friday's RMCF event. The whole meeting went splendidly. After Dr. Wile's insightful presentation, especially enjoyable were the questions raised by the atheists in attendance and Dr. Wile's comfortable approach and great answers. My brief dialogue with Dr. Tom Kashuba, a retired atomic spectroscopist, can be read best if you go to the end and read upward :) .

* Atheist Origins -- A Chat with Chauncey: One visitor from the atheist group, Chauncey, spoke for a while with RSR friend Patrick Shamblin and with Bob Enyart. We asked Chauncey to consider two things: 1) If you don't have a theory of origins that accounts for human consciousness, then you don't have a theory (and you don't even have a hypothesis). And 2) There is a demonstrable pattern to atheist claims about origins in that:
- the origin of species begins with species already in existence
- the origin of stars begins with existing protostars or the explosion of existing stars
- the origin of genes that code for new proteins begins with the modification of existing genes
- the origin of life on earth seeded from pre-existing life in outer space
- the origin of the universe increasingly is explained by claiming that our fine-tuned universe is merely a byproduct of the pre-existing multiverse which is forever popping trillions of universes into existence.

This pattern demonstrates that many in the public, following a gullible media, have undue confidence in the claims about origins from materialists.

* Today's Resource: There are hundreds of great creationist books and DVDs. Where to begin? At Real Science Radio, through decades of carefully considering these materials, we've presented the best of the best in the Science Department of our online store at KGOVstore.com. Check it out! (And as you make a purchase, or even a donation, you will help RSR stay on the air and reach more people with our life-giving message of honoring our creator God through trusting in the death and resurrection of His eternal Son, Jesus Christ!)

* Science Fun with Bob & Fred: Real Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams discuss the latest science news!

* RSR's LIST Shows 2013 Schedule: We hope you enjoy our tradition of updating the great information in these lists...
January: List of Not So Old Things
Feb. List of Real Science Radio Predictions
March: List of Evidence Against the Big Bang
May: List of Peer-reviewed Dino Soft Tissue Papers
July: List of Answers to Hydroplate Objections
Aug: List of Scholars Doubting Darwin & the Big Bang
Sept: List of the Fine Tuning of Creation
Oct: List of Carbon 14 Everywhere it Shouldn't Be
Nov: List of Genomes that Just Don't Fit
Dec: List of Fresh Fossils

Check out also our List of Atheist Answers to Origins Questions at rsr.org/atheist-origins.

Get more info on upcoming RSR shows! Get backstage access (well, sort of), by pledging an automatic monthly donation to BEL/Real Science Radio! Just call 800-8Enyart (836-9278) or go to rsr.org/donate, and sign up for a monthly donation, and then just ask, and we'll give you access to our private online folder for notes and schedules.

* See Our TOP RANKED Websites: Go ahead! Try it! Just Google the hot topic: dinosaur soft tissue. You'll see that Google ranks us in the Top 3! The guys' webpage, DinosaurSoftTissue.com (at kgov.com), has been beating out Nature, NBC, National Geographic, the Discovery Channel, and even all the other creation sites (and we don't even want to do that). Or, Google young earth. We're excited that, except for wikipedia, RSR's YoungEarth.com is beating the entire web.

* For the History of Base 60: see below.

* Different Sides of the 360/365 Day Question: Hear Real Science Radio's Bob Enyart interview Dr. Faulkner. The long-time University of South Carolina Astronomer Danny Faulkner is now full time with Ken Ham's ministry, Answers in Genesis at the Creation Museum (near Cincinnati). With a Ph.D. in astronomy from Indiana University Dr. Faulkner, is also a board member of the Creation Research Society.

* Was the Year Once 360 Days Long? In Dr. Faulkner's CRSQ paper, (rebutted, also in CRSQ, by Enyart), Danny argues against the widespread belief among many creationists (including Henry Morris and Walt Brown) that God originally created the Earth with a 360-day year and 30-day months. (Morris' organization, ICR, the Institute for Creation Research, thankfully continues to teach the created 30-day month and 360-day year.) Enyart offers to Dr. Faulkner evidence to counter his disagreement with the idea, and the two agree to evaluate additional original source material from ancient civilizations and perhaps to do a follow up program on the matter.

For this program RSR recommends The Young Sun
DVD with Danny Faulkner and other great astronomers!

2017 Update on 360DayYear.com: You've just GOT TO CHECK OUT this amazingly informative and fun website! As promised, Bob Enyart has been posting historical and scientific evidence suggesting a 360-day year. You can check it out online at 360dayyear.com! Also, you may want to check out the second of three objections to Walt Brown's hydroplate theory, at RSR's List of Answers to Hydroplate Objections.

* What Makes One Side of the Moon 1) Heavier and 2) the Near Side? Both questions have one answer. It's the mascons  (mass concentrations). Explaining why a U.S. lunar satellite unexpectedly crashed, NASA's Alex Konopliv said, "The Moon is extraordinarily lumpy, gravitationally speaking... in mass. What appear to be flat seas of lunar lava have huge positive gravitational anomalies—that is, their mass and thus their gravitational fields are significantly stronger than the rest of the lunar crust." And NASA continued, "Known as mass concentrations or 'mascons,' there are five big ones on the front side of the Moon facing Earth, all in lunar maria (Latin for 'seas')," including the pareidolic "Man in the Moon" facial features. And, "The mascons' gravitational anomaly is so great—half a percent" [!] that astronauts could have easily noticed it "standing at the edge of one of the maria, a plumb bob would hang about a third of a degree off vertical, pointing toward the mascon." Wow!

* Real Science Radio Interviews Bible College President: Bob Enyart of Real Science Radio interviews Don Landis on his book The Genius of Ancient Man which contrasts the evolutionary paradigm of grunting cavemen with the actual widespread historical, anthropological, and archaeological evidence of a brilliant and sophisticated ancient human civilization.

* The Argument is Genius: Don Landis, college president and chairman of the board for Answers in Genesis, celebrates with his new book the brilliance and astute astronomical insights of ancient civilizations. "All over the world there are similar findings of world travel, advanced astronomy… ancient man had the advanced knowledge of astronomical movements, including the process of precession …found everywhere," Landis writes. For example, Roman sailors used an Antikythera mechanism with dozens of gears to track the Sun, Moon and planets.

* What's the Point? Darwinism implies that anciently men were less intelligent than today. Creationism informs millions that they were more brilliant than we are. As always, the evidence supports creation.

* Evolutionist -- Nothing in Biology Makes Sense: Real Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams discuss a paper in the latest journal edition of the Creation Research Society Quarterly. Forty years ago the scientist credited with developing the reigning paradigm of neo-Darwinism, Theodosius Dobzhansky, published his iconic article with the famed title, Nothing in Biology Makes Sense Except in the Light of Evolution. The decades since have seen his three predictions falsified; regarding genetics, the role evolution would play in biological science, and, of all things, a prediction about one particular Arab sheik whom Dobzhansky identified by name!

For today's show we recommend:
The Real Science Radio Collection: 2006 - 2011

* To Get Bob's Paper, Just Click over to the CRSQ: Each issue, the editor of the CRSQ selects a paper to make freely avaiable to the public. So just click on Bob Enyart's Dobzhansky -- Forty Years Later Nothing Makes Sense for that PDF from the  Spring 2013 issue. Bob's paper debunks the most popular evolution article ever written, and on its 40th anniversary. If serious science writing doesn't scare you away, then Fred and Bob highly recommend that you become a member of the CRS or just subscribe to the Quarterly! You'll get triple-bang for your buck! It would be a few minutes and dollars wisely invested, and in doing so, you will encourage their ongoing creation research efforts, enjoy creation-based peer-reviewed journal papers (like Bob's), and you'll help Real Sciece Radio accomplish one of our goals, which is to be a blessing to creationists everywhere!

* Handy Dobzhansky Links:
- RSR Presents Dobzhansky, 40 Years Later
- RSR: Dobzhansky 40 Years Later Pt. 2
- RSR: Dobzhansky 40 Years Later Pt. 3
- RSR: Dobzhansky Deconstructed Pt. 4 (this show)

* Evolutionist: Nothing in Biology Makes Sense: Real Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams continue their discussion of a paper in the latest journal edition of the Creation Research Society Quarterly. Forty years ago the scientist credited with developing the reigning paradigm of neo-Darwinism, Theodosius Dobzhansky, published his iconic article with the famed title, Nothing in Biology Makes Sense Except in the Light of Evolution. The decades since have seen his three predictions falsified; regarding genetics, the role evolution would play in biological science, and, of all things, a prediction about one particular Arab sheik whom Dobzhansky identified by name!

For today's show we recommend:
The Real Science Radio Collection: 2006 - 2011

* To Get Bob's Paper, Just Click over to the CRSQ: The Creation Research Society just published Bob Enyart's paper, Dobzhansky -- Forty Years Later Nothing Makes Sense, on the 40th anniversary of the most popular evolution article ever written. And if serious science writing doesn't scare you away, then Fred and bob highly recommend that you become a member of the CRS or just subscribe to the Quarterly! You'll get triple-bang for your buck! It would be a few minutes and dollars wisely invested, and in doing so, you will encourage their ongoing creation research efforts, enjoy creation-based peer-reviewed journal papers (like Bob's), and you'll help Real Science Radio accomplish one of our goals, which is to be a blessing to creationists everywhere!

* Evolutionist: Nothing in Biology Makes Sense: Real Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams continue their discussion about a paper in the latest journal edition of the Creation Research Society Quarterly. Forty years ago the scientist credited with developing the reigning paradigm of neo-Darwinism, Theodosius Dobzhansky, published his iconic article with the famed title, Nothing in Biology Makes Sense Except in the Light of Evolution. The decades since have seen his three predictions falsified; regarding genetics, the role evolution would play in biological science, and, of all things, a prediction about one particular Arab sheik whom Dobzhansky identified by name!

For today's show we recommend:
The Real Science Radio Collection: 2006 - 2011

* To Get Bob's Paper, Just Click over to the CRSQ: The Creation Research Society just published Bob Enyart's paper, Dobzhansky -- Forty Years Later Nothing Makes Sense, on the 40th anniversary of the most popular evolution article ever written. And if serious science writing doesn't scare you away, then Fred and bob highly recommend that you become a member of the CRS or just subscribe to the Quarterly! You'll get triple-bang for your buck! It would be a few minutes and dollars wisely invested, and in doing so, you will encourage their ongoing creation research efforts, enjoy creation-based peer-reviewed journal papers (like Bob's), and you'll help Real Science Radio accomplish one of our goals, which is to be a blessing to creationists everywhere!