Patterns of Evidence filmmaker Timothy Mahoney on RSR
* Filmmaker Timothy Mahoney on RSR: Bob Enyart interviews Timothy Mahoney of Patterns of Evidence: The Exodus. This successful Fathom Events film from earlier this year is just now out on Blu-ray and DVD and it's available everywhere including at Wal-mart, Amazon, Christian Bookstores, and at patternsofevidence.com. Visit the primary archaeological sites with Mahoney. Hear from the world’s leading Egyptologists. And then see for yourself the awesome evidence for the Israelites in Egypt, just as the Bible reports.
* The Birth of Another Great RSR LIST: Coming in November 2016, RSR's List of Ancient Egypt's Evidence for the Exodus! Just as we credit...
- RSR's List of Fresh Fossils and our rsr.org/dinosaur-soft-tissue#supplement to Brian Thomas over at the ICR, and
- Dr. Carl Werner for his startling exposé of the fraudulent whale transitional fossils that enabled us to produce this latest List of Whale Evolution Problems, so too we're crediting
- Tim Mahoney and Brad Sparks (see Brad's bullet just below) for the research that went into the bullets that will appear below in our written List of Ancient Egypt's Evidence for the Exodus!
So, thank you Brian, Carl, Brad, and Tim, for your amazing work! BTW, we decided to wait for one year to pass from after our Patterns of Evidence interview before we began to include it's evidence in our list! (If you would like to help obtain resources for this project, please check out rsr.org/wish-list.)
* Related -- Brad C. Sparks Research: See Brad C. Sparks presentation at the scholarly 2013 Exodus Conference at the University of California San Diego documenting ancient Egyptian writings which parallel details of the Exodus, and that according to the scholars who translated the hieroglyphics and first published these significant historical records.
* Secular Timeline Criticism: Secular Egyptologists dismiss the significant evidence assembled by Mahoney and others, often citing the impossibility of a viable timeline. Immediately following the Patterns screening, the Fathom Event included a panel discussion in which Dennis Prager stated:
They're saying that, "The Exodus that never took place, because the Jews were never in Egypt, couldn't have taken place earlier." Is that correct? Isn't that a bit odd? They deny it ever took place, so there's no timeline for them. I don't get it. What is their argument on timeline? Now, if you have eight huge pieces of data, of incontrovertible data, like Joseph and his multicolored robe in that specific place at that time, and the Semites of that area escaping as it were overnight, at a certain period, and more and more of that at a certain time in history, you have to willfully deny it. "Well, it couldn't have happened because it had to happen later, therefore it never happened at all", makes no sense. So you sort of pinch yourself. And that brings us to what that archaeologist or scientist said, 'Look, we have our biases, and they have theirs.' Yes, that is exactly right. They have theirs. They don't want an Exodus.
* Archaeologists Confuse Building the City of "Ramses" with a Date: Exodus 1:11 says that the enslaved Jews "built for Pharaoh supply cities, Pithom and Ramses." Secular Egyptologists confuse the naming of this city with the date of the first construction at that location. That such confusion is evident invalidates the outright dismissal of Mahoney's work by claiming that his evidence belongs to a time prior to Ramses II, who built Pi-Ramsees. (Pithom and Ramses may be the storage facilities of Pi-Ramses.) To illustrate their error, consider the Google search for: when was New York City Founded...
* New York City Wasn't New York City Until Much Later: NYC wasn't "named" "New York" until 1664. "York" is a British name and when the Dutch founded the settlement in 1624 in the region they called "New Netherland", they soon constructed "Fort Amsterdam" and named the island "New Amsterdam". Four decades later the King of England granted the land to the "Duke of York" and it became New York. Google's result, consistent with countless other references, is not in error because "New York City" did not exist in 1624. (Istanbul was founded centuries before Christ as Byzantium, yet it's most common name was Constantinople from 330 A.D. until 1922.) It is so common that we often don't even think of it as anachronistic to use the current name for something even when referencing a time before that name came into use. Writing in Genesis, for example, Moses referred to God as YHWH describing events that occurred before he learned God's name in Exodus, and the land of Ramses was mentioned .
* Secular Archaeologists Should Retract this Ramses Objection: Thus secular archaeologists make an unjustified assumption when they equate the naming of a city (Ramses) with the date of the first building of a city at that location. Regarding the significant excavated evidence from the city of Avaris presented by Mahoney, it is therefore of interest, as reported by Wikipedia, that, "Avaris was absorbed into the new city of Pi-Ramesses constructed by Ramesses II (1279–1213 BC)..." So archaeologists are wrong to dismiss the patterns of evidence for the Exodus on the claim that such evidence belonging to a date prior to Pharaoh Ramses II. Therefore, Real Science Radio calls on Stephen Gabriel Rosenberg and skeptical Egyptologists to retract the general objection to Exodus evidence that it should be dismissed because of a date prior to Pharaoh Ramses II.
* List of Ancient Egypt's Evidence for the Exodus: Again, RSR credits Tim Mahoney and Brad Sparks with collecting much of the evidence we will be providing below. This list is no substitute for their own publications so we highly recommend those of scholarly interest read Sparks and those of either casual or scholarly interest view Patterns of Evidence! Further, we have supplemented materials from Mahoney and Sparks with other generally available information, so please don't assume that just because something is on this list that it comes from their work. We expect to build this list during the month of November, 2016! So if you're interested, please check back soon!
- The Hebrews Gave the Word "Pharaoh" to the World: The etymology of the word Pharaoh looks back to the term for the palace of Egypt's king. Chilperic Edwards, one of the first scholars to translate the Code of Hammurabi, stated regarding the non-Egyptian origin of the title of their monarch: "Pharaoh was the name given by Hebrew writers to the king of Egypt." Most Egyptologists reject the historical basis for the Exodus, discounting any significant role for Abraham's descendants in Egypt. Yet language itself, one of the greatest of world treasures, is perhaps our most important historical monument. Thus, Israel's role in Egypt can be rediscovered by recognizing that the Jews gave to the world the Hebrew word Pharaoh, a word that eventually attained to common usage even by the ancient Egyptians themselves. See more at rsr.org/pharaoh.
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- Exodus Didn't Happen in the 13th Century BC: Great! Almost everyone agrees, from secular Egyptologists who reject the Exodus outright, to the vast majority of biblical literalists, these all agree that the Exodus did not happen in the 13th century BC or, for that matter, at anytime in Egypt's New Kingdom period. Tim Mahoney's Patterns of Evidence film highlights the primary argument used by archaeologists, like Norma Franklin and Israel Finkelstein, to dismiss the evidence for the Israelites' presence in ancient Egypt. Summarizing, their main argument is this: "The Exodus never happened, but when it never happened was in the 13th century BC." So, if the Exodus occurred in the earlier 15th century BC, even if it left behind the mountain of evidence documented in Mahoney's film, the "13th century argument" prejudices experts and excludes much hard evidence from consideration.
- 15th century BC Avaris was home to Semite population: Excavating the 15th-century BC Avaris, from beneath the southern sector of the 13th-century city of Ramses, Manfred Bietak has uncovered a large city of Semites. (Bietak believes these people could not have been Israelites because the Exodus did not happen in the 13th-century BC.)
- Avaris became a major city of protected foreigners: Bietak estimates the population of the "huge town" of Avaris as between 25 and 30,000 foreigners, "people who originated from Canaan Syria-Palestine", who thrived in the midst of powerful Egypt, obviously with Pharaoh's support, ranking Avaris as one of the largest cities in the ancient world.
- Twenty Semite settlements in Goshen: Prof. John Bimson of the The UK's Trinity College estimates that more than 20 settlements of Semites, lighter-colored people from north of Egypt including from the land of Canaan, many of which that have been only partially excavated, are in the land of Goshen, the northeastern Nile Delta region of Egypt. The dating of Avaris may show it to be the first established of these second millennium B.C. cities.
- The Hebrews likely gave the word "Goshen" to Egypt: Like the word Pharaoh, another word that appears to have come from the Jews is the word Goshen, which refers to a fertile region of the Nile delta. At least by the time of Egypt's 26th dynasty (664 - 525 B.C.), this area was called Gesem. This word seems to "only [have] meaning through Hebrew, as if it were a word meaningful only to the Hebrews who settled there". The Septuagint translation suggests the meaning "'cultivated'—comparing the Arabic root j-š-m, 'to labor.'" [With the Jews giving to the world the words Pharaoh and Goshen, imagine the significance if the Egyptian name Ramses also originated with them.]
- Semites were shepherds: Through thirty years of field work at Avaris, Bietak [unfinished...]
- Please check back later!