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Welcome to Real Science Radio: Co-hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams talk about science to debunk evolution and to show the evidence for the creator God including from biology, genetics, geology, history, paleontology, archaeology, astronomy, philosophy, cosmology, math, and physics. (For example, mutations will give you bad legs long before you'd get good wings.) We get to debate Darwinists and atheists like Lawrence Krauss, AronRa, and Eugenie Scott. We easily take potshots from popular evolutionists like PZ Myers, Phil Plait, and Jerry Coyne. We're the home of the popular List Shows! And we interview the outstanding scientists who dare to challenge today's accepted creed that nothing created everything.

RSR's List of Transient Lunar Phenomena (maintained)

Michael Seeds popular textbook: Moon is cold, dead, inactive* Cold, Dead, and Inactive: The laws of physics move objects inexorably toward equilibrium. So Michael Seeds, professor of physics and astronomy and popular textbook author of the 1997 Foundations of Astronomy 6th Edition, wrote, "The Moon is now a cold, dead, geologically inactive world", p. 453. Except that it's not.

* Moon Keeps Pace with Solar System Action: The list below describes the broad range of types of transient lunar phenomena (TLP). Hundreds of events that last for only a short time, especially as compared to the moon's claimed 4.5 billion-year existence! Similarly, a tremendous number of transient events in the solar system ( have surprised astronomers because they contradict billions-of-years expectations.

* RSR's List of Transient Lunar Phenomena: All secular astronomers believe the moon to be billions of years old. Therefore they expect it would be "geologically" inert. However still today, as expected by young earthers, the entire solar system sees many transient events and yet TLP surprises the astronomers and cosmologists who are not biblical creationists. For example:
Explosive Outgassing: NASA reports that though, "lunar volcanism was supposed to have ceased billions of years ago... outgassing... a rapid release of gasses, blowing off surface deposits" may have been happening recently "and may still be happening today". This is not unlike the many magma-less eruptions on Earth that release only volcanic gasses. The related 2006 journal Nature paper, Lunar activity from recent gas release, describes a three-square-mile region on the Moon called "Ina" which presents evidence, including Ina's colors, lack of craters, and sharp edges, of "recent, episodic out-gassing from deep within the Moon."
Fast Lunar Recession: An "anomalously high" lunar recession rate measured in 2007 of the Moon moving away from the Earth by 1.5 inches per year would amount to an unworkable 24,000 miles per billion years, leading to repeated int'l conferences for this "lunar crisis" and then a desperate "dark matter" lunar recession proposal to try to defend the alleged 4.5 billion year age of the moon.
- A Thousand Annual Moonquakes: The "tectonically active" Moon has "young thrust faults" and about a thousand moonquakes per year quaking at up to magnitude 5 and even 5.5 according to 2019 Nature Geoscience and NASA, meaning it's still shrinking.
- Recent Lunar Volcanism: As reported in 2006, a three-square-mile region called Ina suggests recent volcanism by its colors, lack of craters, and sharp edges (in addition to the hundreds of "relatively young craters with crisp outlines and freshly-excavated crustal material [that hasn't] had time to darken from the effects of solar ions and cosmic rays...").
- Molten Outer Core: In 2011 the Moon's small molten outer core was discovered, yet such lunar heat should have dissipated over the last billions of years.
- Moon Still Radiating Heat: As reported in the 1970s, heat is still flowing out of the Moon contrary to old-age thermal models. See Planetary Geology.
Unequal Hemisphere Temperatures: The hemispheres of the moon surprise astronomers by radiating heat unequally, with the near side being 30 degrees warmer than the far side, from 280 to 310 degrees below zero, according to 2019 reports at LiveScience and from China's Chang'e-4 probe that landed on the far side.
- Photographic Evidence of Surface Changes: The most scientifically verifiable observation project, with photos taken every 20 seconds in 2014, confirming centuries of claims of transient phenomena in particular lunar regions.
Swath of the northern hempishere of the Moon's near side Young Craters: Astronomers have identified scores of "relatively young craters with crisp outlines and freshly-excavated crustal material [that hasn't] had time to darken from the effects of solar ions and cosmic rays...".
- Rapid Dust Buildup: As reported in 2013, dust accumulates on the Moon at the rate of a millimeter per thousand years, which is an unworkable rate for the secular model, especially considering its even greater dust buildup expectations in its early solar system.
- Minimal Overall Dust: Assuming a Moon sweeping up space debris for billions of years, NASA feared deep moon dust as documented in their own history of the Apollo missions and by an astronaut who walked on the moon and a lead equipment scientist, both of whom we interviewed here on RSR. So the rapid buildup of dust and the Moon's overall minimal few inches together indicate that the dusting itself must be a recent transient event, as shown in straighforward calculations available at
New "Enormous" Number of Boulder Tracks: Unlike lunar crater chains (which are astounding in themselves), boulder tracks averaging five meters and as narrow as a single meter in width appear across the Moon's surface. As with the ubiquitous micrometeorites apparently covering every square centimeter of the Moon (see below), millions of years of space dust and impact debris should cover such shallow tracks. Yet the less than 1% of the surface imaged at "high" resolution by the Lunar Orbiter contains scores of such tracks. Now with NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter currently orbiting the moon, "the number of boulder tracks on the lunar surface is ENORMOUS!!!"
Lunar outgassing photo 1953- Outgassing of Radon: As reported in 2008, "every lunar orbital mission capable of sampling a large fraction of the Moon’s surface in terms of [Radon] sources has detected episodic emission of this short-lived, radioactive gas", including Japan's Kaguya mission, and see the 1999 observation that radon outgassing may be the source of the moon's tenuous atmosphere and result of tectonic activity, and also the 1953 photo of a genuine TLP to the right.
Outgassing of Helium & Oxygen: The AGU's Journal of Geophysical Research reported in 2014 the direct measurement of oxygen and helium in the Moon's exosphere. Oxygen is a highlyy reactive element which readily forms compounds (notably oxides) with almost all other elements, adding additional pressure against claims of great age.
- Still Visible Ubiquitious Micrometeorites: As reported in 1975 and never contradicted, micrometeorites cover "every square centimeter of the lunar surface" in the opinion of the 2012 Shoemaker Distinguished Lunar Scientist Award winner. Yet if they were from the turbulent "early solar system", by now they would have been covered by craters. So their visibility is itself a transient event showing that they were recently deposited.
Temporary Space Dust Clouds: Gravity tenuously holds major dust clouds in two of the Earth/Moon Lagrange points as reported by the Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society. These "temporary" clouds were mostly ignored for six decades until 2018. First found in 1956, photographed and publicized in 1961, and then, as reported in Physics Today (and in the LA Times, Feb. 25, 1966) in 1966 amateur astronomers at the Lockheed Employees Recreation Association corroborated the existence of these (debris) dust clouds. RSR asserts that these were overlooked because, like dinosaur soft tissue, etc., they don't fit well in the old-earth paradigm. For if the dust is the debris that is assumed to have filled the early solar system, gravitational disturbance from the Sun should have dissipated these clouds billions of years ago. And by the same uniformitarian assumptions, the inner solar system has become relatively dust-free over the last billions of years, and so there wouldn't be enough dust to populate these clouds faster than they would dissipate. Hence, they are temporary.
- Earth's Atmosphere Extends Beyond the Moon: NASA reports on a 2019 paper in Journal of Geophysical Research that our geocorona extends well beyond the orbit of the Moon! Between Earth's gravity, lunar gravity, and the solar wind, RSR argues that this uber exosphere would have a relatively short lifespan.
- Cambridge in 2014; CMI in 2003: See more TLP in chapter 9, The Inconstant Moon, from Cambridge University Press, The New Moon, and back in 2003 from Dr. Don DeYoung's argument in Creation Ministries International's creationist Technical Journal, Transient lunar pheonomea: a permanent problem for evolutionary models.
- Etc.

* Sunrise, Moonrise, Earthrise, Questions Arise:
- "Are transient events anomalies?"
- "How many anomalies must occur before they are no longer anomalies?"
- "Does the tremendous number of observed short-lived events on the moon and throughout the solar system contradict the expectations of the billions of years paradigm?"

* A Few Lunar Features Known for TLP
- Tycho crater
- Aristarchus crater
- Grimaldi crater
- Plato crater (father of geocentrism)
- Copernicus crater
- Kepler crater
- Grimaldi crater (flashes, color patches, hazy visibility, gaseous emissions)
- Mare Crisium (Sea of Crises)
- Etc.
You can expand this list by emailing and include literature references for the locations to add.

Allegely 48 million year old impact melt flow from lunar crater Byrgius A* "Spectacularly Preserved" Impact Melt Flow: Yes. Except for the alleged timeframe, 48 million years ago, NASA's 2010 explanation for this flow is undoubtedly accurate: "Spectacularly preserved viscous flow on the NE rim of Byrgius A (19 km diameter) crater. This flow has a form similar to lava flows on Earth, however it formed as a result of an asteroid or comet [RSR: or unconsolidated debris field] slamming into the moon at hyper-velocity (speeds exceeding 16 km/second, or 35,791 mph). So much energy was released in the impact, that solid rock was melted and thrown out of the crater where it flowed down the crater flanks." At the 2010 Lunar and Planetary Science Conference in The Woodlands, Texas, the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter Cameras' team described Byrgius A as a "very fresh" crater with an age estimate of 48 million years and its "spectacular leveed flow" no longer thought to be volcanic but "now known to have originated by high shock pressures... at the impact site." Yet with the warm, living, and geologically active Moon described in the list of transient lunar phenomena above, should this melt flow be this "spectacularly preserved" after all that time? Rapid dust buildup accumulating on the Moon at the rate of a millimeter per thousand years? That discovery alone makes their 48 million year date unworkable for the flow would be hidden under 48 meters of dust. Further, the entire flow should have completely broken apart by now, considering temperature variation and earthquakes. In its alleged lifetime this flow would have experience more than half a billion hot to cold temperature swings, from days of more than 200 degrees F to nights of less than minus 200 degrees F. Add to that the Moon's measured "earthquake" rate, at over a thousand per year, suggests that this hardened flow, parts of which are "thin veneers... draped on the crater rim", hasn't completely broken apart through billions of moonquakes! Yes, there are a handful of "cracks in the veneer concentric to the crater rim" but these can be attributed to simple gravitational "downslope tension after emplacement." And some "mass wasting of fragmented rim veneer" was caused likely from nearby "small impacts or seismic activity". But for the entire edifice to survive more than 50 billion moonquakes without breaking apart? No wonder the researchers think this (obviously vastly younger) flow has been "spectacularly preserved".

* If You Know any Moon Hoax Folks: Feel free to send them along to They'll find resources there like this...

The stars rotate in the opposite direction in the northern and souther hemispheres; etc.

RSR's button for a multi-creation site custom Google search* Have You Tried RSR's Multiple Creation Site Search? Our listeners are telling us that this Real Science Radio service, a customized multi-creation-site Google search, is AMAZINGLY effective and a fabulous time saver! And, it's a Google search! Only customized to save you time and make you smarter! Let's say you want to learn about the creationist explanation for the origin of comets to expose the secular model's inability to account for their olivine and other earth-like minerals. By using RSR's Multiple Creation Site Search, powered by Google, you'll be simultaneously searching the four largest and most popular creation sites and our own RSR pages! This tool bypasses the confusion and noise of Wikipedia and the Internet generally and let's you search simultaneously (including countless articles written by friends of Real Science Radio) the websites of Creation Ministries International, Answers in Genesis, the Institute for Creation Research, Dr. Walt Brown's site, and our own RSR resources (at, and Enjoy!

Earth's "oldest" rock found WHERE? (and other affirmations)

Real Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams begin with six science news headlines. (Midwest freeze, earth rock on the moon, furthest galaxies twice their previously estimated "impossible" size, plants beneath arctic ice, animals under antarctic ice, and what lies beyond New York and Viriginia's murderous abortion laws.) These reports tell us much about the world we live in and where it's come from and where it's all headed.

* Our Annual Telethon: The guys also announce the launch of the annual February BEL/RSR Telethon and it's vital goal of raising $40,000 so that more and more people can be reached with the creation-based Christian worldview and the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Please help by calling 1-800-8Enyart (836-9278) or clicking on over to the store at Thanks so very much!

RSR's button for a multi-creation site custom Google search* Have You Tried RSR's Multiple Creation Site Search? Our listeners are telling us that this Real Science Radio service, a customized multi-creation-site Google search, is AMAZINGLY effective and a fabulous time saver! And, it's a Google search! Only customized to save you time and make you smarter! Let's say you want to learn about the creationist explanation for the origin of comets to expose the secular model's inability to account for their olivine and other earth-like minerals. By using RSR's Multiple Creation Site Search, powered by Google, you'll be simultaneously searching the four largest and most popular creation sites and our own RSR pages! This tool bypasses the confusion and noise of Wikipedia and the Internet generally and let's you search simultaneously (including countless articles written by friends of Real Science Radio) the websites of Creation Ministries International, Answers in Genesis, the Institute for Creation Research, Dr. Walt Brown's site, and our own RSR resources (at, and Enjoy!

Quantum biology: Our seemingly impossible sense of smell

Free Schrödinger's cat. :)Real Science Radio host Bob Enyart continues with a second show discussing the growing field of quantum biology with Brian, an information systems guy with one of the world's major institutions who earned a double-major in both mechanical engineering and physics from Iowa State University. This engineer argues that some of the extraordinary abilities of biological organisms go beyond what seems possible from standard chemistry and physics. Quantum mechanics, astoundingly, enables dogs to detect chemical explosives and cancer in their owner, bears to sniff prey from miles away, and humans to distinguish over one trillion different odors. The startling, often sub-atomic, quantum world of the two-slit experiment and of wave/particle duality, of quantum entanglement, superposition, coherence and quantum tunneling, has disrupted the already wildly complex field of biology. Evidence is mounting that the most bewildering abilities of living organisms come courtesy of the Designer using quantum effects to accomplish what otherwise would seem to be impossible!

Evidence suggests that our sense of smell relies on quantum tunnelling. This is a quantum mechanical phenomenon whereby particles pass through barriers that, based on the physics of our every day experiences, they shouldn't be able to cross. Astonishingly, biological processes apparently exploit quantum mechanics to give God's creatures the widely diverse and amazing sense of smell that we often take for granted.

Top Mathematicians: Ants & Bees, Mold & Amoebas

Honey bees solve least-distance problem faster than super computersReal Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams celebrate the stunning mathematical capabilities, some faster than a supercomputer, of ants and honeybees and slime mold and amoebas. Arguing that such accomplishments in mathematics, a field that is non-physical, could not have originated through physical means, the guys celebrate this evidence for the brilliance of our Creator God and they predict, as of January 18, 2019, that some of these abilities will be found operate using quantum mechanical effects.

RSR & Nathan from Georgia on Creation and Evolution

Mahoney's Patterns of Evidence: Moses ControversyGet Tickets! The Moses sequel to Patterns of Evidence hits theaters nationwide March 14, 16, & 19! So RSR urges you to watch the trailer and get tickets early, for yourself and friends, because if it packs theaters like Patterns did, it may sell out at many of the 900 screens where it's showing!

After last week's Part 1, Real Science Radio host Bob Enyart concludes his enjoyable conversation with listener Nathan, who has great questions about creation and evolution. And in case you've missed RSR's flood video...

14-year-old Nathan from Georgia calls RSR

Real Science Radio host Bob Enyart has an enjoyable conversation with a young listener, Nathan, who has plenty of questions about animals and the claims of evolutionists. The conclusion aired the next week.

What did one plant say to the other plant?

Real Science Radio presents the ability of plants to communicate by wire and wirelessly. Bob Enyart and Fred Willians celebrate the discoveries described by Dr. Jeffrey P. Tomkins, of the Institute of Creation Research, about how plants communicate, and why that ability could not originate without a Designer.

RSR: The Star of Bethlehem

* Boulder, Colorado's Planetarium Show on Christ's Birth: For Christmas Eve, we're enjoying this Real Science Radio rerun about the University of Colorado's Fiske Planetarium presentation of a live program, The Astronomical Star of Bethlehem, by amateur astronomer Gil Buller. From the planetarium's website, "This exciting program examines the sky at the time of the birth of Christ to see which astronomical phenomenon may have been the Star of Bethlehem."

Dr. Silvia on the Tall el-Hammam Destruction Event

Archaeologist Dr. Phil Silvia at Tall el-Hammam
Dr. Phil Silvia

What destroyed the Bronze Age city of Tall el-Hammam? As currently estimated, this happened 3,700 years ago. A popular hypothesis by archaeologist Phillip Silvia (as reported by,,,,,, etc.) suggests that a meteoroid's aerial explosion may have destroyed this ancient city just east of the northern shore of the Dead Sea, a possible site for the biblical city of Sodom. Real Science Radio host Bob Enyart interviews Dr. Silvia about his talk at last month's annual meeting of the American Schools of Oriental Research in Denver. Hear about the obliteration of everything above ground in the city, the intense heat, the five-century abandonment of the area despite being the most well watered in the region, and the Dead Sea salts that were blasted up onto and over the outskirts of the city. The following image is not Photoshopped...

Dead Sea to Tall el-Hammam on right
Dead Sea to Tall el-Hammam on right.


* Also from Real Science Radio: from see...
- (this program)
- and from our store, get Patterns of Evidence - The Exodus!
- and from Amazon, Dr. Silvia's book The Destruction of Sodom.

RSR on the Day-Age and Gap Theories

* RSR's Lists of 24-Hour Indicators, and Gap Theory & Day Age Consequences: Below, see our list of Indicators of the 24-Hour Creation Days. Below that, Bob Enyart and Fred Williams, discuss the Gap Theory claim that the Bible indicates that a long period of time passed between the first two verses of Genesis. There they list the unexpected consequences that typically go along with acceptance of that alleged gap. They also briefly list the unexpected consequences of the Day Age Theory. The claim that the creation days were long periods of time has implications that are not always immediately obvious to those considering that position. (See that list immediately below this paragraph.) So, what isn't always presented upfront is that as supporters of the Gap or Day-Age theories try to maintain old-earth creation views, they then must rearrange the order of those days (since their theory requires the existence of the Sun before Day 4; etc.). Gap theorists also tend to reject that there were no thorns before Adam's sin, Noah's global flood, etc. Christian denominations, universities, and other organizations that adopt the Day-Age theory tend to reject all of that and even that the languages originated at Babel, and they tend to reject the Exodus, Jericho's supernatural fall, Joshua's conquest of Canaan, etc. For the vast majority of Christian groups that make what looks like just a small interpretative adjustment in Genesis 1, trying then to be consistent with that adjustment leads these Christian institutions to reject many seemingly unrelated and plain historical passages in Scripture. Further, accepting an old earth interpretation of the Bible appears to lead to disinterest in, and even outright rejection of, the many fascinating corroborating archaeological and scientific discoveries that affirm the Bible as God's Word.

* The Day-Age Theory Consequences: The initial presentation of Day-Age might seem reasonable, that the word "day" can mean a long age and so Genesis accommodates an old earth. What isn't always presented upfront however is that as supporters try to maintain the Day-Age theory, they not only lengthen the days but then also:
- must rearrange the order of those days (since their theory requires the existence of the Sun before the Earth; of birds after land animals, etc.)
- reject that there were no thorns before Adam (as Genesis states)
- reject that all was "very good" until sometime after Day Six
- reject that there was no death before Adam's fall (as the Bible states)
- reject the great ages that the antideluvians (like Methuselah) lived to
- reject the global flood (and all the evidence for it)
- reject that the languages originated at Babel
- reject the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah
- reject the Exodus (and all the evidence for it)
- reject Jericho's fall (and all the evidence for it)
- reject Joshua's conquest of Canaan
- reject Jesus' genealogy in Luke
- reject Jesus affirming Noah entering the Ark before the flood destroyed the rest of the world
- reject that God made us male and female as stated in Genesis and by Jesus
- reject Jesus' statement in Mark 10:6 that God made manking at the "beginning" of creation
- reject Hebrews 1:10 and Gen. 1:1 on God making the Earth at "the beginning" of creation
- reject that God instituted marriage in Eden between one man and one woman
- etc. (for ex., they even reject the 2018 evidence that Solomon indeed made the gates found in Israel)

* Indicators of the 24-Hour Creation Days; The above (like the Gap Theory observations below) is a list of the consequences that result from rejecting normal-length days of creation. A direct way of showing that these Genesis Days equaled 24 hours include observing that:
- On Day Four the sun and moon were to rule over the day and night, virtually mandating literal days 4, 5, and 6
- The Day Three plants needed the Sun of Day Four to survive therefore Day 3 could be hours but not years long
- Each of the six Days have ordinals 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc., which are typically used with literal and not figurative days
- Each of the six Days have evening and morning descriptions typically used with literal and not figurative days
- The 7th Day sabbath model is that God made the heavens, earth, and seas and everything in them in six days
- The purpose of Genesis carefully listing the ages of the patriarchs was for calculating the years since creation
- Jesus said that God created Man at the beginning of, that is, not not long after, creation (Mk. 10:6; etc.)
- Lucifer in the Garden of Eden hadn't yet fallen, no suffering or thorns yet till after "everthing was very good" on Day Six 

Case of Walt Brown's In the Beginning, 8 books for $100So it turns out that making a small adjustment in Genesis 1 and overlooking that "the evening and the morning" were the first day, the second day, etc., leads to extensive rejection of other plain historical passages of Scripture. Soon enough such compromise leads also to rejection of the Bible's teaching on gender and God making us male and female (Gen. 1), on sexual morality (Gen. 1, 9, Ex. 20, etc.), on marriage between a man and a woman (Gen. 2), and even the killing of the innocent (Gen. 4, 9, Ex. 20, etc.) through suicide, euthanasia, and abortion. What then, arises, with the adoption of the Gap Theory? Bob and Fred investigate (see below).