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Welcome to Real Science Radio: Co-hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams talk about science to debunk evolution and to show the evidence for the creator God including from biology, genetics, geology, history, paleontology, archaeology, astronomy, philosophy, cosmology, math, and physics. (For example, mutations will give you bad legs long before you'd get good wings.) We get to debate Darwinists and atheists like Lawrence Krauss, AronRa, and Eugenie Scott. We easily take potshots from popular evolutionists like PZ Myers, Phil Plait, and Jerry Coyne. The RSR Archive contains our popular List Shows! And we interview the outstanding scientists who dare to challenge today's accepted creed that nothing created everything.

And now for something completely different...

"The Moon is observational error. It doesn't exist." Ha ha ha ha ha!RSR today provides a break from the stress that comes from the most divisive of all forms of government, the one that systematically turns brother against brother, namely, democracy. So we cover some lighter creation/evolution topics. For example, a telling joke from a famed Harvard astronomy professor gets sourced authoritatively to Dr. Irwin Shapiro and you can see at rsr.org/moon#joke. Incidentally, about the difficulty explaining the origin of the moon, the enduring joke is, "The moon is observational error. It doesn't exist!" Then we briefly mention NASA's report of discovering water on the Moon (for the thousandth time). And finally, Real Science Radio's Bob Enyart and Fred Williams mention another academic, University of California history professor Jeffrey Russell, who has given a thumbs up to one of RSR's Lists, exposing the widespread atheist lie that the church taught a flat earth. Dr. Russell approves of RSR's List of Christian Religious Orders and Authorities that Taught a Flat Earth, and that list, as expected, includes exactly zero items!

Biblical inerrancy, old-earth creation, & Terry Mortenson on RSR

Inerrancy vs. Old Earth CreationismReal Science Radio's Bob Enyart interviews Terry Mortenson on his 2020 paper Inerrancy and Biblical Authority: How and Why Old-Earth Inerrantists Are Unintentionally Undermining Inerrancy. (RSR previously interviewed Dr. Mortenson on the subject of the Ph.D. he earned from England's Coventry University on the history of geology. That 2004 program discussed the nexus between lawyers and the geological claim about millions of years, or the relationship between the anti-monarchists and the Geological Society's growing opposition to the global flood.) See also RSR's List of Day-Age Theory Consequences.

The Hitchcock sequel The Birds: Darwin's Finch Nightmare

Evil Finch: The Birds sequel: Darwin's Finch Nightmare* Nightmare Finches: Real Science Radio gives news updates from Bob Enyart with a small maskless victory in federal court to Fred Williams and Bob's discussion of the Alfred Hitchcock sequel: The Birds: Darwin's Finch Nightmare. This updates RSR's classic List of Not So Old Things, testing the Darwinian claim that it took 2.3 million years for one finch species to adapt to fill various ecological niches on the Galapagos Islands. So biologists brought a single species to a U.S. Bird Reservation in the Pacific thousands of miles from other land. These birds birds diversified their beaks and the related muscles, and diversified their behavior and filled various ecological niches in only 17 years!

* DBC Wins Maskless Preliminary Injunction: In Pastor Bob Enyart's lawsuit against Colorado's governor, Denver Bible Church won a preliminary injunction in federal court (reported by CNN, Breitbart, LifeSiteNews, 7News, News 4 2nd1st, Telemundo Denver, Charisma News, Christian Headlines, 700 ClubThomas More Society, the Washington Times, etc.) striking down Colorado's orders for masks and the artificial limit of 50 attendees. Many abusive, filthy, and hateful leftist callers and emailers are claiming that DBC is selfish and killing people. Bob has been informing them that the shutdown itself is killing millions globally. Yet some care only about Americans. The U.S. over-indulgent fear, lockdown, slow-down, etc., has led mankind into economic recession which is killing millions of people around the world including through extreme malnutrition, starvation, etc. Please see Pastor Bob Enyart's List of 25 Ways the Lockdown Kills People at rsr.org/25. Fear is not victimless.

* Mammals: At rsr.org/mammals we now add bears, making it 438 mammal species found in dinosaur and lower strata, so that's slowly approaching the number of dinosaur species! So much for the age of the reptiles! :)

* Yet Another Confirmed RSR Prediction! The guys call yet another RSR science prediction CONFIRMED! This one from 2014 about space.

Quantum Triality Pt. 4

Real Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams conclude their broadcasting and commenting on RSR's quantum mechanics article. There are FOUR prerequisites before listening! 1) RSR's List of Things that are Not Physical. 2) Know the 2-slit Experiment. And 3) Listen to Parts 1, 2, and 3 at rsr.org/triality, rsr.org/triality-2, and rsr.org/triality-3. If you'd like, as you listen to today's program you can follow along reading the article itself which is at rsr.org/quantum. And please consider supporting RSR by shopping, subscribing, or donating at rsr.org/store and posting a link to our series at rsr.org/triality.

Mount St. Helens to Novarupta with Pat Roy

Quantum Pt. 4: Lord-willing, next week
Bob and Fred will complete their series
on quantum mechanics.

NovaruptaThe new director of the Mount St. Helens Creation Center and long-time RSR friend, Pat Roy, introduces the creation movement to another powerful rebuttal to old earth arguments. It's called Novarupta, the almost unknown but most powerful volcanic eruption of the 20th century which occurred over a century ago in southern Alaska. Our audience knows Pat from our interviews with him including as the creator of the famed Jonathan Park adventure series and from his Faith on the Edge documentary refuting the Flat Earth syndrome. The people of Juneau on June 6, 1912 from 750 miles away actually heard Novarupta and after falling for three days, ash a foot thick covered the town of Kodiak and collapsed a number of their buildings. Novarupta seven cubic miles of debris, 30 times more than did Mount St. Helens in 1980 and three times more than Pinatubo in 1991. Pat explains the research done, then and now, and parallels Novarupta with the old-earth shattering effects of Mount St. Helens. We have more on this on our classic List of Not So Old Things and on our MSH page!

Microbiologist Dr. Clem Persaud on COVID Vaccines

Quantum Pt. 4: Lord-willing, in two weeks
Bob and Fred will complete their series
on quantum mechanics.

Real Science Radio interviews Dr. Clement Persaud, Professor of Medical Microbiology and Biotechnology for 23 years at Canadore College in Northern Ontario. An expert in cloning and embryo-research legislation, Dr. Persaud focuses on bioethical issues. Today we discuss the COVID-19 vaccines including that Moderna, Johnson & Johnson, and other pharmaceutical firms are producing vaccines using aborted fetal tissue. Agreeing with Dr. Persaud We need to fight to stop that moral horror. (At Bob Enyart Live we do have some success in such matters, as when we helped force Pepsi to stop using aborted embryonic tissue in their recipe and shocking taste research, literally using fetal taste-bud cellls. See rsr.org/pepsi.) Other COVID vaccines, as mentioned today and at rsr.org/covid, are being developed without harvested parts of unborn babies including the one from NOVAX. Bob and Dr. Persaud also discuss vaccine prioritization, human challenges (i.e., further testing by intentionally infecting those vaccinated), and what happens to the vaccines when, as expected, SARS-CoV-2 mutates. Related: See also Bob's article at

For the studies since 2015 see rsr.org/pot.

Quantum Pt. 4: Lord-willing, in three weeks
Bob and Fred will complete their series
on quantum mechanics.

Potheads tear America apartRSR's Pot List: See our news items and research list. And, imagine the national suffering that could have been averted if these people hadn't been potheads:
- Ferguson's suicide-by-cop Michael Brown
- Aurora theater murderer James Holmes
- Islamic Boston Bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev
- Miami cannibal Rudy Eugene
Trayvon Martin
Baltimore's Freddie Gray
- Vegas Strip murderer Lakeisha Holloway
- Planned Parenthood shooter Robert Lewis Dear 
- Infamous murderer Jodi Arias
- Devin Kelley murdered 26 at church massacre
- Chattanooga's Islamic terrorist Muhammad Abdulazeez
- Tucson massacre mass murderer Jared Lee Loughner, and many more including:
- Japan's pothead legalization activist 
Satoshi Uematsu killed 19 handicapped people
- England's Manchester jihadist Salman Abedi killed 22
- France's Bastille Day jihadist killed 86 at the beach.

But first, see just below our list of peer-reviewed scientific papers helping to explain why potheads tend to be slow, depressed, and often, worse, as we discuss also in this Real Science Radio YouTube video...

Part Three on the Triality

News Update: It's now too late to pray for Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
Instead, pray about the national eruption that replacing her will create.
And pray too that Donald Trump changes his nomination approach
and for the first time asks candidates whether they will uphold the
unborn child's right to life.
(For our program on quantum mechanics,
click the Play button above or see below.)

And from kgov.com/republican-judicial-crisis:

* Ginsburg Replacement Post-show Update: After the death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg, anti-abortion abolitionists noted that even with the confirmation of an anti-Roe replacement jurist: "Supreme court history informs us that Roe’s reversal would still be unlikely. In 1992, the US supreme court was made up of eight Republican nominees, including three from Reagan and two from Bush. The lone Democrat nominee on the court was Justice Byron White who dissented in Roe v. Wade. So there were eight Republicans and a pro-life Democrat. The Planned Parenthood v. Casey (1992) decision should have been a slam-dunk overturning of Roe. Yet even the ’92 court upheld legal abortion. The majority was made up entirely of Republican nominees." See also AmericanRTL.org/dred and for a list of the president's named possible replacements, see kgov.com/Trumps-44 and see below 15 seconds of Amy Coney Barrett.

* $10,000 Cash Offered to National RTL to name 'one' pro-life justice: [as reported at CNBC, the Denver Post, Yahoo News, Covenant News, Houston Chronicle, etc.]

Scan of $10,000 check payable to National Right To Life to name a single pro-life justiceDenver, CO -- "American Right To Life is offering $10,000 to National Right to Life," said the group's president Leslie Hanks, "if they can name a single justice on the current U.S. Supreme Court who has ever stated, in an interview or a ruling or even a dissent, that the unborn child has a right to life. The point is that after decades of NRTL’s compromise strategy, there is not a single justice on the court who acknowledges the child’s right to life."

"In 1981, after president Ronald Reagan agreed he would sign federal personhood legislation for the unborn, National Right to Life and their longtime attorney James Bopp actually opposed that effort claiming they supported a states' rights approach," says the group's site AmericanRTL.org. "A quarter century later notice that NRTL and Bopp have long opposed all state personhood efforts."

In contrast, for the elections in 2008, 2010, and 2014, Colorado pro-lifers turned in a third of a million signatures of registered voters to force statewide referendums to acknowledge in law the personhood of the unborn child, and while the first two campaigns lost, we narrowed the margin from a 3-to-1 defeat to 2-to-1.

Update: For years we have extended this to offer $1,000 to the first person in the general public to provide evidence that a single one of the hundreds of Republican judges in the federal judiciary has ever held, in a ruling, dissent, or otherwise, that the unborn child has a right to life. On 9/17/20 Jason Troyer provided ARTL with evidence that Donald Trump's nominee David Dugan may merit this distinction. ARTL will investigate this promising development and hopefully, despite Dugan's strong stand, will not find any indication that he would uphold regulations legislating how, when, or where an unborn child can be "legally" killed. In the meantime, we renew the offer of $1,000 to the first person who provides evidence of another federal judge (we do, of course, hope there is more than one) who has ever held that the unborn child has a right to life.

* RSR Quantum Pt. 3: Real Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams continue to broadcast and comment on RSR's quantum mechanics article. With this Part 3, see just below for the four prerequisites before listening! And as you listen to today's program you can follow along reading the article itself which is at rsr.org/quantum. And please consider supporting RSR by shopping, subscribing, or donating at rsr.org/store. Thanks so much!

- Prerequisite 1: RSR's List of Things that are Not Physical
- Prerequisite 2: Know the 2-slit experiment
- Prerequisite 3: Listen to Part 1 at rsr.org/triality
- Prerequisite 4: Listen to Part 2 at rsr.org/triality-2
- Other RSR QM resources below

In the NYC main public library working on rsr.org/quantum.
RSR at NYC's main public library

RSR's Quantum Thoughts:
- 2018: Quantum Biology: Doing what standard chemistry and physics can't
- 2019: QB Pt. 2: Our seemingly impossible sense of smell
- 2019: How Quantum Computers Do It: Finally, a Helpful Illustration
- 2019: Google's Quantum Supremacy
- 2019: Top Mathematicians: Ants & Bees, Mold & Amoebas
- 2018: Coincidence or Determinism? Quantum theology and physics

Part Two on the Triality

Real Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams continue to broadcast and comment on RSR's quantum mechanics article. As you listen to today's program you can follow along reading the article itself which is at rsr.org/quantum. And please consider supporting RSR by shopping, subscribing, or donating at rsr.org/store or calling us at 1-800-8Enyart. Thanks so much!

- Prerequisite 1: RSR's List of Things that are Not Physical
- Prerequisite 2: Know the 2-slit experiment
- Prerequisite 3: Listen to Part 1 at rsr.org/triality
- Other RSR QM resources below

RSR's Quantum Thoughts:
- 2018: Quantum Biology: Doing what standard chemistry and physics can't
- 2019: QB Pt. 2: Our seemingly impossible sense of smell
- 2019: How Quantum Computers Do It: Finally, a Helpful Illustration
- 2019: Google's Quantum Supremacy
- 2019: Top Mathematicians: Ants & Bees, Mold & Amoebas
- 2018: Coincidence or Determinism? Quantum theology and physics

Quantum Mechanics' Wave-Particle Duality is a Triality

Real Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams broadcast RSR's quantum mechanics article with an introduction and comments.

- Prerequisite 1: RSR's List of Things that are Not Physical
- Prerequisite 2: Know the 2-slit experiment
- Other RSR QM resources below
- Version 1.0 of the article...

Quantum Mechanics'
Wave-Particle Duality is a Triality

by Bob Enyart

Three is exact. Always. To infinite precision and regardless of how often it is used, in counting and equations, it never wears down. As is true with all integers, three is always precisely exact.

Protons are always exact as are, in our experience, all neutrons. Like those baryons, all electrons are exact and identical to particles of their same kind whether primordial or formed just now through decay. And as with electrons, all the other leptons too of the same kind appear to be identical with others of the same kind including electron neutrinos, muons, and tau neutrinos. Hundreds of thousands of experiments have confirmed the extraordinarily successful mathematics of quantum mechanics leading to the conclusion that all particles of the same kind are identical (Ford, 2005, The Quantum World, p. 100). Yet at 1,835 times the (rest) mass of an electron, the proton is relatively enormous yet always exactly the same as all others and the two particles always have the opposite, yet exactly equal, electrical charges. So fermions, including all the particles mentioned so far, along with the quarks, all appear to be identical with others of their same kinds. The creatively named up and down, strange and charm, bottom and top quarks each are identical to all others of the same kind. And all of the antiparticles, as expected, such as antilepton positrons, appear to be identical with all others of their same kinds. As an aside, positron diffraction had been demonstrated in 1980 but it took almost four decades more to perform the full two-slit experiment with antimatter demonstrating the expected wave-particle duality (Ariga, et al., 2018, arxiv.org). That interference result was first obtained with light in 1801 and then with (normal) matter beginning in 1927 with electrons, then neutrons in 1988, atoms in 1991, and molecules beginning in 1994 with the largest projectiles to date in 2013 using a synthetic carbon-based molecule of 810 atoms (Eibenberger, et al., 2013, arxiv.org) and in 2019 with molecules of 2,000 atoms (Fein, et al., Nature Physics) weighing 25,000 to 40,000 AMU (atomic mass units). And likewise all bosons are identical with others of their same kind including the Z particle, the Higgs, and all photons as the ubiquitous and uniform force carrier of electromagnetism. (That is, all photons of the same energy levels are identical to all other similarly energized photons.) Manufacturing though, has taught mankind about unavoidable tolerances. So, how is it that all like particles, even those just now coming into existence, are apparently all absolutely identical?

The exactness of repeatedly used numbers does not surprise scientists because, though materialists are known to deny this, numbers are not physical. Science itself cannot exist apart from numbers. And because numbers are not physical, scientific inquiry includes the non-physical. Numbers are a kind of information and, also often denied by materialists, information is not physical. Protons appear to be physical but certainly the statement and the concept that they are, is not physical. That statement, and any statement, as often observed, does not consist of the photons transmitting it to your eyes nor the molecules of ink on a page nor of the sound waves expressing it. Materialists may object but they disqualify themselves from being taken seriously. Rules of investigation, whether used by forensic criminologists or corporate accountants, should be valued to the extent that they help discover truth. The rules of the materialist, such as methodological naturalism, are the opposite. Materialism requires adherence to its rules of investigation especially if that means getting the most important answers completely wrong. Reviewing a Carl Sagan title, the famed Richard Lewontin (Jan. 9, 1997, New York Review of Books) admitted:

We take the side of [materialist] science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs [and] in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism. It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations...

Materialists’ objections are discarded because they arise from the ultimate bias, which is insistence especially if wrong. Contrary to that lack of humility, the New Testament indicates that even Christianity itself is falsifiable. If Christ is not risen, then our faith is false (1 Cor. 15:14). Yet materialists cannot match such courage, covering themselves in a layer of non-falsifiable anti-science. So because there is no discovery, or scientific law, or technological advancement that requires or affirms atheism (Enyart, 2011, rsr.org/technology), the public posturing of materialism as more scientific than theism is dishonest.

In the NYC main public library working on rsr.org/quantum.
RSR at NYC's main public library

For decades, renowned physicists, many Christians, and others have interpreted quantum mechanics as providing evidence against the materialist worldview. And even more, the observer himself appears to have a special status. Either an observer, that is, a mind and a perception, or a measurement, or some kind of record of a measurement, seems to affect the behavior of matter. Might there be then a specifically Christian insight into quantum mechanics and matter's wave-particle duality?