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Dr. Silvia on the Tall el-Hammam Destruction Event

Archaeologist Dr. Phil Silvia at Tall el-Hammam
Dr. Phil Silvia

What destroyed the Bronze Age city of Tall el-Hammam? As currently estimated, this happened 3,700 years ago. A popular hypothesis by archaeologist Phillip Silvia (as reported by space.com, sciencenews.com, livescience.com, newsweek.com, forbes.com, universetoday.com, etc.) suggests that a meteoroid's aerial explosion may have destroyed this ancient city just east of the northern shore of the Dead Sea, a possible site for the biblical city of Sodom. Real Science Radio host Bob Enyart interviews Dr. Silvia about his talk at last month's annual meeting of the American Schools of Oriental Research in Denver. Hear about the obliteration of everything above ground in the city, the intense heat, the five-century abandonment of the area despite being the most well watered in the region, and the Dead Sea salts that were blasted up onto and over the outskirts of the city. The following image is not Photoshopped...

Dead Sea to Tall el-Hammam on right
Dead Sea to Tall el-Hammam (Sodom) on right.

 

Discovering the City of Sodom by Collins & Scott, cover

* Also from Real Science Radio: from rsr.org/archaeology see...
- rsr.org/camels
- rsr.org/exodus
- rsr.org/pharaoh
rsr.org/jericho
- rsr.org/flood
- rsr.org/sodom (this program)
- rsr.org/sodom-collins (2020)
Patterns of Evidence
- and from Amazon, Dr. Silvia's book The Destruction of Sodom.

RSR on the Day-Age and Gap Theories

* RSR's Lists of 24-Hour Indicators, and Gap Theory & Day Age Consequences: Below, see our list of Indicators of the 24-Hour Creation Days. Below that, Bob Enyart and Fred Williams, discuss the Gap Theory claim that the Bible indicates that a long period of time passed between the first two verses of Genesis. There they list the unexpected consequences that typically go along with acceptance of that alleged gap. They also briefly list the unexpected consequences of the Day Age Theory. The claim that the creation days were long periods of time has implications that are not always immediately obvious to those considering that position. (See that list immediately below this paragraph.) So, what isn't always presented upfront is that as supporters of the Gap or Day-Age theories try to maintain old-earth creation views, they then must rearrange the order of those days (since their theory requires the existence of the Sun before Day 4; etc.). Gap theorists also tend to reject that there were no thorns before Adam's sin, Noah's global flood, etc. Christian denominations, universities, and other organizations that adopt the Day-Age theory tend to reject all of that and even that the languages originated at Babel, and they tend to reject the Exodus, Jericho's supernatural fall, Joshua's conquest of Canaan, etc. For the vast majority of Christian groups that make what looks like just a small interpretative adjustment in Genesis 1, trying then to be consistent with that adjustment leads these Christian institutions to reject many seemingly unrelated and plain historical passages in Scripture. Further, accepting an old earth interpretation of the Bible appears to lead to disinterest in, and even outright rejection of, the many fascinating corroborating archaeological and scientific discoveries that affirm the Bible as God's Word.

Day Age theory visual representation via a calendar * List of Day-Age Theory Consequences: The initial presentation of Day-Age might seem reasonable, that the word "day" can mean a long age and so Genesis accommodates an old earth. What isn't always presented upfront however is that as supporters try to maintain the Day-Age theory, they not only lengthen the days but then also:
- must rearrange the order of those days (since they claim the Sun existed before the Earth and land animals before birds, so Day 4 comes before Day 1, and Day 6 comes before Day 5, and Day 3 plants before Day 4's Sun is also an issue for them)
- reject that there were no thorns before Adam (as Genesis states)
- reject that all was "very good" until sometime after Day Six
- reject that there was no death before Adam's fall (as the Bible states)
- reject the great ages that the antediluvians (like Methuselah) lived to
- reject the global flood (and all the evidence for it)
- reject that the languages originated at Babel
- reject the dispersion from Babel (preferring Out of Africa)
- reject the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah
- reject the Exodus (and all the evidence for it)
- reject Jericho's fall (and all the evidence for it)
- reject Joshua's conquest of Canaan (and all the evidence for it)
- reject Jesus' genealogy in Luke
- reject Jesus affirming Noah entering the Ark before the flood destroyed the rest of the world
- reject that God made us male and female as stated in Genesis and by Jesus
- reject Jesus' statement in Mark 10:6 that God made mankind at the "beginning" of creation
- reject Hebrews 1:10 and Gen. 1:1 on God making the Earth at "the beginning" of creation
- reject that God instituted marriage in Eden between one man and one woman
- etc. (for ex., they even reject the 2018 evidence that Solomon indeed made the gates found in Israel)

* List of Indicators of 24-Hour Creation Days; The above (like the Gap Theory observations below) is a list of the consequences that result from rejecting normal-length days of creation. A direct way of showing that these Genesis Days equaled 24 hours include observing that:
- On Day Four the sun and moon were to rule over the day and night, virtually mandating literal days 4, 5, and 6
- The Day Three plants needed the Sun of Day Four to survive therefore Day 3 could be hours but not years long
- Each of the six Days have ordinals 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc., which are typically used with literal and not figurative days
- Each of the six Days have evening and morning descriptions typically used with literal and not figurative days
- The 7th Day sabbath model is that God made the heavens, earth, and seas and everything in them in six days
- The purpose of Genesis carefully listing the ages of the patriarchs was for calculating the years since creation
- Jesus said that God created Man at the beginning of, that is, not not long after, creation (Mk. 10:6; etc.)
- Lucifer in the Garden of Eden hadn't yet fallen, no suffering or thorns yet till after "everthing was very good" on Day Six 

So it turns out that making a small adjustment in Genesis 1 and overlooking that "the evening and the morning" were the first day, the second day, etc., leads to extensive rejection of other plain historical passages of Scripture. Soon enough such compromise leads also to rejection of the Bible's teaching on gender and God making us male and female (Gen. 1), on sexual morality (Gen. 1, 9, Ex. 20, etc.), on marriage between a man and a woman (Gen. 2), and even the killing of the innocent (Gen. 4, 9, Ex. 20, etc.) through suicide, euthanasia, and abortion. What then, arises, with the adoption of the Gap Theory? Bob and Fred investigate (see below).

RSR Previews Next Week's Show on Gen 1:1-2

Programming Note: We've designated next week's program, rsr.org/gap-theory, as our main resource for that topic. So if you listen to today's program, please consider it a preview for next week's program. Thanks!

Bob Enyart and Fred Williams discuss the idea that the Bible indicates that a long period of time transpired between the first two verses of Genesis. The guys first give a quick overview of the competing Day-Age Theory and then discuss the implications of the Gap Theory.

* The Day-Age Theory Consequences: The initial presentation of Day-Age might seem reasonable, that the word "day" can mean a long age and so Genesis accommodates an old earth. What isn't always presented upfront however is that as supporters try to maintain the Day-Age theory, they not only lengthen the days but then also:
- must rearrange the order of those days (since their theory requires the existence of the Sun before the Earth; of birds after land animals, etc.)
- reject that there were no thorns before Adam (as Genesis states)
- reject that there was no death before Adam's fall (as the Bible states)
- reject the global flood (and all the evidence for it)
- reject that the languages originated at Babel
- reject the Exodus (and all the evidence for it)
- reject Jericho's fall (and all the evidence for it)
- reject Joshua's conquest of Canaan
- reject Jesus' statement that God made man at the beginning of creation
- etc.

So it turns out that making a small adjustment in Genesis 1 and overlooking that "the evening and the morning" were the first day, the second day, etc., leads to extensive rejection of other plain historical passages of scripture. What then, arises, with the adoption of the Gap Theory? Bob and Fred investigate (see below).

Fountains of MAGMA (?) of the Great Deep. Huh?

* First Shocking Thing First: Before getting to the sad shocker of today's program, that creation groups are reinterpreting the "fountains of the great deep" to refer not to water but to volcanoes (?!), hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams report actually shocking science news about how far a hundred watts of energy will take your brain (and body), about our ability to see a single photon, and about crocodiles eating fruit! Real Science Radio today also airs audio from infamous anti-creationist Eugenie Scott to put the lie to the Junk DNA story, once again, now that some human retrovirus genes have been found to be, not junk but, essential to reproduction! But the big story today is that our beloved creation movement is headed down yet another tragic and obvious dead end, this one designed to save the failed creationist version of the secular Plate Tectonics theory, by claiming that the fountains of the great deep that flooded the globe were not water... but magma??? Oh boy! Here we go again...

* RSR Programming Notes: At rsr.org/crossover-depth aerospace and defense industry engineer Bryan Nickel discusses four scientific problems with Catastrophic Plate Tectonics's "MAGMA (?) of the Great Deep" flood interpretation. See here RSR's YouTube video on the topic and please feel free to comment. Also, toward the end of this video, a notice points viewers to this page to see a second short video, the one embedded just below this first one

Meteorites with diamonds in them had to come from...

Case of Walt Brown's In the Beginning, 8 books for $100* Another WWB Discovery: RSR hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams discuss yet another WWB discovery, diamonds in meteorite fragments! While dismissing the popular notion of a large exploded planet to explain these diamonds (not enough solar system debris; gravity likes to keep planets together; Genesis reports a catastrophic event on Earth and not elsewhere), the guys explain how the fountains of the great deep launching debris into space beat up the moon and the rocky planets, explains meteoroids, populated the asteroid belt, and formed the comets and the TNOs. To understand all this better Bob and Fred recommend watching RSR's Global Flood and Hydroplate Theory video (or buying one to share) and reading Walt Brown's In the Beginning!

* ITB Officially Out of Print! Cases of Walt's book are no longer available. (Previously, we sold a case of eight as Christmas gifts for only $100 a case and that included shipping!) As of December 2019, In the Beginning is officially out of print. eBay and other sources for out-of-print books has ITB available for $100 to $200 a copy. So here at RSR we've been working to acquire every copy we can get our hands on. So we're now selling the copies we've obtained from RSR supporters for $100 each, so that the remaining copies 1) get into the hands of people who most want them and 2) help to support our radio and podcast effort so that we can continue reaching more and more people with the Gospel of Jesus Christ as He founded it, upon the Genesis creation account!

* And More New Stuff: The guys also report on a newly discovered DNA structure and a newly discovered human organ!

Dust (Bunny) Satellites & The Sound of the (Grammar) Police

Real Science Radio host Bob Enyart presents the latest astronomy discovery of two dust satellites orbiting the earth and the latest linguistic discovery of the ongoing deterioration of all human languages. Regarding the dust, see the temporary dust clouds being held in space in Earth's Lagrange points! (See also rsr.org/peanut-asteroids!)

* Malibu Burning: There is a battle to save Pepperdine University from the devastating California fires. Please pray for those losing their homes and even, most tragically, their loved ones. Coincidentally, this is also where Bob gave what many have described as the best talk of his life. It's titled Trading Genesis. See it right here...

RSR: How the Flesh is like Gravity

* The Flesh: Just as gravity affects our physical universe, our flesh affects our spiritual lives. On this special edition of Real Science Radio, we present a previously aired episode of Theology Thursday.

* Trading Genesis: Check out Bob Enyart's theistic evolution presentation in Malibu:

That Moon Just Won't Go Away!

* How'd that Moon Get There: Evolutionists have five failed theories on how the moon formed, and none of them will go away because they're all so problematic that the question is, Which one is the least bad?

* Time & God: Bob Enyart and Fred Williams also talk about Real Science Radio's #1 ranked Google article for: Is God outside of time? A large excerpt of that piece has just been published on another leading creation website.

* Turns Out that Pigeons are Way Smart: We all know about how amazing pigeons are for messages and in wartime. But on today's program, the guys talk about how smart pigeons are in their ability to visually distinguish patterns.

Cheryl Enyart in Milan with pigeons
Cheryl Enyart in Milan

Vatican Arrests of BEL Paesanos; Vortex Rings & Pocahontas

Vatican Wall keeps illegals out...

* Italy Recovering: Begiining at seven minutes into today's broadcast (which airs on America's #1 most powerful Christian radio station), American Right To Life spokesman Bob Enyart debriefs Fred Williams on our just-completed Bible Tour of Israel: When in Rome, Do Romans. Regarding the unholy Roman Catholic Church which was on full display during our trip, hear about:
- the arrests at the Vatican of Ken and Jo Scott (see below)
- the Vatican hypocritically using a wall to keep out illegals and unwanteds
- how the Vatican daily treats their thousands of visitors like animals
- the profligate wealth somehow accumulated through a vow of poverty
- how they eliminated the second commandment, "Thou shall not make for yourself a graven image"
- the constant adoration of men including bishops and popes
- the official word from the Roman Catholic Church that they don't know where Peter's wife is buried (and don't care)
- the paintings and statues of naked men that surround the Pope
- the unbiblical requirement of celibacy when even Peter was married
- Michaelangelo's own guilt in the #MeToo and priest molestation scandals
- the Pope thinking the crisis is in the demand for justice rather than in the decades of priests raping boys
- and that the more one has to lose in this life, the harder it is to care about what he may lose in the next.

In Italy They Say You Can’t Protest the Pope

Protesting Pope Francis at the Vatican, DBC members Ken & Jo Scott, 2018But when Denver Bible Church visits Rome, that’s just not the case. The state police told two members of this American congregation that it is illegal to “vilify” the Pope. However, by rejecting corroborated accusations and by exalting a bishop previously censured for having sex with seminarians, Pope Francis has vilified himself.

During a Bible Tour of Italy called When in Rome, Do Romans (led by ARTL spokesman Bob Enyart), Ken and Jo Scott protested outside the walls of the papacy where thousands visiting the Vatican saw the message, in English and Italian, on their signs. Pope – Repent – Resign.

The worldwide suffering caused by thousands of homosexual Roman Catholic priests raping children has even hit this small Colorado church. Years ago a DBC family lost a loved one when Stuart Saucke committed suicide after leaving behind a handwritten letter (see it at kgov.com/saucke). Stuart wrote about the Denver Archdiocese priest, Fr. Neil Hewitt, who got him drunk as a young boy, exposed him to pornography, and severely sexually molested him. Another Hewitt victim, Michael Smilanic, now of Florida, traveled to Denver for a radio interview with DBC pastor Bob Enyart (kgov.com/smilanic) to add his voice to the cries for justice against the Catholic Church. The Denver Archdiocese followed the worldwide systematic process of covering up accusations of child molestation by moving a predator priest to a new parish filled with unsuspecting families. Denver’s previous and current archbishops, Charles J. Chaput and Samuel J. Aquila, over many years have dodged and outright refused to answer the questions, asked in private at the archdiocese headquarters and publicly on the radio, by these families regarding what accusations had been leveled against Hewitt, who has since left the priesthood, during the years when the bishops were moving him around Denver and into the Leadville mountain parish.

RSR's List of Scholars Doubting Darwin

[While Bob Enyart is traveling to Italy, please enjoy the rebroadcast of this RSR program.]

* Nobody Doubts Darwin They Say: Theoretical physicist (emphasis on the theoretical) Lawrence Krauss told Real Science Radio that, "all scientists are Darwinists." However, he forgot Ben CarsonWhen you hear consensus, consensus, you might have reason to doubt the consensus. And aside from Carson, there are about twenty highly-credentialed anti-creationists at The Third Way who, regardless, acknowledge that the natural selection mechanism of neo-Darwinism cannot account for the diversity of life. These "Third Way" scientists include molecular biologists, etc., from institutions like Oxford, the University of Chicago, Tel Aviv University, MIT, University of Vienna, University of Bonn, UCLA, Princeton. RSR hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams review their ever-growing list of lists of educated and highly-educated Darwin doubters, including many thousands of Ph.D.s, scientists, and professors. The guys also have fun reporting on astronomers, astrophysicists and cosmologists who doubt the Big Bang. (Find this show summary at rsr.org/doubters.)