Origin of Comets (& Asteroids & TNOs) on Real Science Radio

Walt Brown was here sign on Comet 67p.See below for:
- Walt Brown Was Here
- All Scientists Work for Walt Brown
- RSR's asteroid & peanutoid info
- And our list of Kevin Lea broadcasts.

* Hydroplate Expert Kevin Lea Talks about Comets: God did not create the Earth with comets and asteroids aimed at it. So what brought about this danger? In a special edition of Real Science Radio, Bob Enyart and Kevin Lea, a Washington state pastor with a background in nuclear physics, talk about comets: their size, speed, orbits, composition, and lifespan, and origin! They discuss the short lifespans of comets, their composition and orbits, all of which show that comets originated from Earth. The Bible records that the fountains of the great deep broke forth and flooded the Earth and, as it turns out, launched comets into space! Yes, every single comet came from Earth. Check out Walt Brown's fabulous chapter on The Origin of Comets! Hear also the conclusion of this fascinating discussion in RSR: Comets II.

* DRAFT comet animation by RSR:

2013 Update 1: See this fun affirmation of Walt Brown's comet theory, in David Mathisen's comet in the asteroid belt blog.
2013 Update 2: For more evidence for the Hydroplate Theory and its origin of comets explanation, see Comet ISON is Comet 1680 returned.
2014 Update 1: Hubble telescope photographed the "mysterious" breakup of an asteroid. This is not a mystery but instead is expected by students of the hydroplate theory, as explained in Kevin Lea's note below.
2014 Update 2: Asteroid trio gives Earth a close shave (from a triple-blade razor :).
Comet2014 Update 3: In related news, see Pastor Lea's letter to Vladimir Putin regarding Pastor Saeed Abedini unjustly held in an Iranian prison.
2014 Update 4: Cosmonauts find sea plankton on the outside of the International Space Station!
2015 Update: Another confirmed creationist prediction (see just below) this one regarding comets comprised of rounded rocks.
2017 Update: A binary comet/asteroid hybrid has been discovered (see below)

Comet 67P has rounded boulders contrary to secular expectations but confirming creationist predictions* Another Confirmed HPT Prediction, Rounded Boulders on Comets: Regarding the confirmation of yet another astounding science prediction, in January 2015, Bob Enyart interviews Dr. Walt Brown, author of the hydroplate theory explanation of the global flood and the many resulting broken features of our Earth and solar system. The European Space Agency has just released high-resolution images of Comet 67P along with the assessment of their scientists that they may have found unexpectedly large rounded boulders (up to 10-feet in diameter) that may be the comet's building blocks! This interview presents this latest discovery which, though it has shocked so many secular astronomers, has confirmed Walt Brown's specific prediction, published 13 years ago in the 7th Edition of his book In the Beginning, about the composition of comets. See more at rsr.org/predictions.

* Landslide Photographed on Comet 67P: In a related story and now added to our RSR's List of the Solar System's Transient Events, the European Space Agency has photographed an actual landslide on Comet 67P. Just like every planet and all the other kinds of bodies in the solar system, this allegedly four billion year-old flying pile of rounded boulders produces transient events, that is, passing phenomena, like 67P's landslide and outgassing oxygen, that would be unexpected to see on billion-year-old objects. As for this landslide, of course stable cliffs are not easily built with rounded boulders, so catching a landslide photographically as it happens is not shocking, as it is to old-earthers, but expected, as it is to students of the hydroplate theory!

Comet 67P outgassing. Photo European Space Agency.* Comet 67P Outgassing to Beat the Band: Six weeks of close-up observations show this comet would exhaust its water in just thousands of years! From Dr. Brian Thomas over at ICR:

As the Rosetta spacecraft approached the comet, it measured gas and dust near the comet for six weeks. "In the same period, first measurements from the Microwave Instrument for the Rosetta Orbiter, MIRO, suggested that the comet was emitting water vapour into space at about 300 millilitres per second," according to the ESA. That's over six-thousand gallons per day! At that rate, the whole comet—assuming it's made entirely of water ice—would melt into space after only hundreds of thousands years.

* RSR's ASTEROID LIST: This list is the beginning of our rsr.org/asteroids resources:
- Asteroids are not from an exploded planet. (Their combined mass hardly equates to a small moon.) See RSR's Asteroid challenges naturalism, supports Walt Brown.
- The total mass of the asteroid belt is estimated at approximately 4% that of the Moon and the Moon is approximately 1.2% of the Earth's mass, so the asteroid belt is five hundreths of one percent of the Earth's current mass, and less of it's original mass.
- Asteroids, including the one that struck the Sudan desert in 2006 contain diamonds with inclusions common to diamonds on Earth "such as chromite, phosphate and iron-nickel sulfides", like meteoroids, comets, and TNOs, are composed of minerals common to Earth.
- With the solar system's many old-age-busting transient eventsHubble photographed what is to secularists a "mysterious" breakup of an asteroid.
- We issued our rsr.org/asteroid-prediction in spite of the many asteroids that are known to have moons and the extraordinarily difficult physics of capturing a moon, yet with all that Kevin Lea and Bob Enyart still predicted that astronomers will continue to be surprised at the increasing number of asteroids found with moons. From rsr.org/predictions...

Asteroids will be shown to have debris fields orbiting them. That is, the percentage of asteroids known to have moons will continue to grow, contrary to materialist expectations (because of the physics challenge of an asteroid capturing one moon, let alone two or more). Also, we will find asteroids with orbiting debris and multiple moons. This standing prediction was partially confirmed when RSR  said on September 1, 2017 that there was a significant likelihood that the Florence flyby may show that it has "one or two moons". Five days later, NASA announced and the science media headlines reported, "Asteroid Florence has Two Moons"! Partially confirmed again on July 11, 2018, "Object [2017 YE5] is Actually Two Asteroids Orbiting Each Other & It’s Freaking Scientists Out" per Bustle (of all outlets) and NASA.

- For why many asteroids have moons, see RSR's Asteroid and Meteoroid a Coincidence? and Yet Another Asteroid with Moon
- For the 2017 flyby of asteroid 3122 Florence, based on RSR's creation model,  we said that it very well "may have a moon in tow... In fact, it might have a couple moons." Five days later NASA and the science headlines announced: Asteroid Florence has two moons! See more.
- NASA and other sources list the number of asteroids with moons as "more than 150". Johnston Archive as of September 2017 listing both TNOs and asteroids counts over 300 with 286 binaries, 13 triples, and one sextuple, Pluto, for a total of 316 physics-challenging companions. (Personal note to Wm. Robert Johnston: Before you reject our information out-of-hand Dr. Johnston, you owe it to yourself and to your readers to peruse our rsr.org/solar-system-formation-problems and rsr.org/bb pages.)
- A "twin asteroid", 65803 Didymos, in the news in 2017.
- For more on asteroids with moons, see also this nearby asteroid trio.
- Check out our friend David Mathisen's HPT-based comet in the asteroid belt report.
- And how about those peanut-shaped asteroids? :) Well, just check out...

Photos of four peanut shaped asteroids* RSR's List of Peanut-Shaped Asteroids: (See this also at rsr.org/list-of-peanut-shaped-asteroids.) What's with all the peanut-shaped asteroids? In an old-earth scenario by the secular nebular hypothesis and by the laws of physics (see below), these "contact binary asteroids" with their two connected lobes should hardly even exist. But they do. And they're common! Some of the peanutroids, as RSR calls them, are:
2015 BN509
2006 DP14
1999 JD6
4179 Toutatis
Itokawa
433 Eros and for good measure
624 Hektor, elucidated by Hawaii's Keck Telescope, which is a peanut-shaped asteroid with a moon! See also Nat'l Geographic's report.
- In 2017, 2014 JO25 was discovered to be peanut-shaped!
- In 2018, perhaps 50% of the small bodies in the Kuiper Belt are believed by Lowell Observatory and Carnegie Institute astronomers to be contact binaries according to the Astronomical Journal!
- In 2019, the TNO 486958 Arrokoth, aka contact binary Ultima Thule, was photographed a billion miles beyond Pluto (see below)!
- And don't forget the peanut-shaped comets, some of which are listed just below! (Please notify Bob@rsr.org of corrections or other peanutoids. Thanks!)

* NASA Admits Peanuts Are Mysteries: A NASA mission scientist and member of their Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Donald Yeomans,  explained why Itokawa and peanut-shaped asteroids generally contradict the physics-based expectations of old-earth scientists.

It's a major mystery how two objects each the size of skyscrapers could collide without blowing each other to smithereens. This is especially puzzling in a region of the solar system where gravitational forces would normally involve collision speeds of 2 km/sec [4,500 miles per hour].

* Yet 10% of Close-Up Asteroids Are Peanuts: To multiply this peanut evidence against secular expectations, according to old-earth astronomer Dr. Al Grauer with Travelers in the Night, data from the Goldstone Solar System Radar telescope and the Arecibo Observatory in Puerto Rico suggests that of near-earth travelers larger than 650 feet in diameter, more than 10% of these asteroids have a peanut shape. And by the way, so was Arthur C. Clarke's fictional asteroid Kali. And so are the very real comet nuclei of 19P/Borrelly103P/HartelyHalley's Comet, and the famed 67P which (undoubtedly like countless others) is known to be made up of millions of rounded boulders. Remember, all scientists work for Walt Brown!

Hubble photo 288P binary asteroid/comet hybrid 2016
Hubble: binary asteroid/comet hybrid 2016

* Binary Comet/Asteroid: Again from our all-scientists-work-for-Walt-Brown file, in September 2017, from our all-scientists-work-for-Walt-Brown file, the journal Nature published the discovery of 288P, a binary asteroid/comet hybrid. Wow! "Rapid rotation" is one of the (unworkable) explanations claimed by secular astronomers for binary asteroids. Secular astronomers, though mostly ignorant of the Hydroplate Theory formation of comets and asteroids, nonetheless make frequent discoveries consistent with and in confirmation of HPT creation science predictions!

Artist's depiction of the Chicxulub impact crater* Peanut Asteroid Craters? Would peanut-shaped asteroid impacts form circular craters? Or might their craters, depending on their orientation at impact, be somewhat deformed? National Geographic published a list of the ten biggest known impacts on Earth. Do any of them appear to have been caused by a peanutroid? With perhaps just over ten percent of the larger near-earth asteroids being peanut shaped, that alone might suggest why we may never have been hit with a peanut-shaped asteroid. Or, might an understanding of the origin of asteroids (and of comets, meteoroids, and TNOs) help to explain why it would be even less than statistically likely that we would get hit by a dually than by a unary impactor?

TNO Snowman Ultima Thule: Walt Brown was here!* 2019 Photo of Another Contact Binary: NASA's New Horizon, a billion miles past Pluto, photographed yet another contact binary TNO 486958 Arrokoth, Ultima Thule! Previously, regarding such binaries (or snowmen), in a moment of candor NASA admitted that such "peanuts"  are mysteries. Mission scientist and member of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Donald Yeomans, explained, "It's a major mystery how two objects each the size of skyscrapers could collide without blowing each other to smithereens. This is especially puzzling in a region of the solar system where gravitational forces would normally involve collision speeds of [4,500 mph]." All scientists work for Walt Brown!

* 2018 Photo of Another Flying Rockpile Asteroid: All scientists work for Walt Brown, including in Japan! The Japanese Aerospace Exploration Agency landed two small rovers on the asteroid Ryugyu on Sept. 21, 2018 and found yet another HPT-compliant flying rockpile!

Ryugyu asteroid flying rockpile courtesy of the Japanese space program, 9-21-2018

* And here's Asteroid Bennu: Another HPT-compliant flying pile of rubble...
 Asteroid Bennu, another HPT-compliant flying pile of rubble

* NASA on the Yarkovsky Effect: [Sept. 2019 update.] From the 2-minute interview of NASA's meteor specialist Helena Bates by London's NHM. "Most of the asteroids in our solar system... are between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter but there are a number of them near, what we call, Near Earth Space." On predicting the orbits of asteroids, "the problem with very small bodies are that they're affected by things that we didn't initially assume that they would be affected by. And one is the effect of the Sun which is called the Yarkovsky effect. [T]he Sun heats up one side... and then as [the body] rotates that side will begin to face away from the Sun and will radiate that heat outwards. That basically acts like a small thruster to push the asteroid into a slightly different orbit." And because meteoroids and asteroids can have varying composition, it's "really hard to predict the effect of the Sun."

* Thanks to an RSR Volunteer: RSR thanks one of our volunteer researchers for transcribing the JPG image of John Buchanan's 1905 Letter to the Editor. The image and transcription of the insightful, anti-evolution letter are over at rsr.org/john-buchanan.

* Today's Resources: Check out RSR's Global Flood & Hydroplate Theory video (on DVD, Blu-ray, or download). And you can enjoy the 6-disc standard audio CD set The Hydroplate Theory & Dr. Walt Brown on the Air or get the entire set on a single MP3 CD, both of which contain eleven radio programs. Bob Enyart also highly recommends Dr. Walt Brown's fabulous book, In the Beginning! Order by clicking the link, or calling us at 800-8Enyart (800 836-9278)!

* Another Great Resource: You can help us stay on the air by purchasing the Real Science Radio Collection, a handy set of MP3 CDs with all of our shows from 2006 to 2011. Also, you can enjoy Bob Enyart’s entertaining and insightful videos each month, mailed to you automatically, simply by subscribing to the BEL Monthly Topical Videos service! And please check out our other great BEL subscription services!

* Note from Kevin Lea on the Asteroid Breakup:

This March 6, 2014 observation of a disintegrating asteroid is surprising to NASA scientists but not to Dr. Walt Brown, the author of the Hydroplate Theory explanation for the flood of Noah. 

...the evidence we have pertaining to asteroids and comets supports Dr. Brown’s theory that they originated from the earth. You can search for: origin of asteroids and find that Google ranks Dr. Brown’s theory as the #1 hit (at creationscience.com) out of millions.

The hydroplate theory explains that before and during the flood of Noah, tidal effects caused the temperature and pressure of water under the earth's crust (subterranean water) to increase. The crust eventually ruptured, allowing the now supercritical water and associated rock debris to jettison into space, some at velocities sufficient to escape earth's gravity. Dr. Brown shows further how some of this water and debris coalesced to become comets and other debris formed into asteroids.

Brown’s theory predicts that most asteroids are actually rock piles held together by gravity and ice. If the rock pile is perturbed in a way that exposes the underlying ice to the vacuum of space, it will begin to sublimate and create a thrust vector that in some cases could accelerate chunks of rock sufficiently to overcome the weak gravitational attraction, resulting in the asteroid flying apart as the Hubble telescope has observed. The resultant pieces are now miniature comets for reasons explained in Dr. Brown’s book. In the Beginning is available as a full-color hardback and can be read online. See also his Asteroids and Comets chapters, and you can get a PDF of this note at calvarypo.org/HANDS/1150.pdf.

* Another Image of the Boulders on Comet 67P:


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


* The Original Comet 67p Image: with enlarged section edited out of officially released ESA photos... ;)

Walt Brown was here: Comet 67p.


* Great Kevin Lea RSR Shows: Kevin Lea is a hydroplate expert and the pastor of Calvary Church of Port Orchard, Washington. Enjoy our Real Science Radio interviews with Kevin on:
- sunken Pacific crust
- HPT "geometry problem"
- origin of comets (above)
- frozen mammoths (note, not "woolly")
- liquefaction (needed to understand flat gaps as at rsr.org/ps)
- the 365-day year (and see our 360dayyear.com website).

* God's Design of the Storehouses of the Great Deep: For a million species, as a contingency for the Fall, from the start God designed the robust survival capabilities that organisms would need to thrive on Earth after it lost its initial perfection. The Bible teaches that the rebellion did not only break mankind, but that it broke even the cosmos itself. God also designed the Earth with waters reserved for judgment as a contingency, that would perhaps be  automatically activated, in the case of mankind's rebellion. That contingency planning may have included a goal that went further, distance-wise, than just the terrestrial judgment of mankind. An additional design goal of God's work on Days 1, 2 and 3 of creation may have been to ensure that if man's sin spoiled the perfection of creation, that this same corruption would be manifest throughout the cosmos. Thus, by God's original design of the Earth, the Fall and the resultant eviction from the Garden may have led inexorably to the Flood. And then, by the destructive force of the fountains of the great deep, the damaging of the solar system itself (including the impactors that marred the Moon, Mercury, Venus, and Mars), may have resulted from God's intentional contingency planning in the original design of the Earth.

* Gravity Homeschool Science Experiment: For older children, from Ellen McHenry's Hydroplate Theory for Kids, check out How Gravity Works in Outer Space to help students understand the formation in space of asteroids and comets from debris ejected from earth.

Ann Hodges struck with meteorite in 1954 in Alabama* Meteorite Hits Alabama Woman, and Other Dangers: National Geographic reported on Ann Hodges, pictured right, being attended to by her physician Moody Jacobs after she was struck by a softball-sized meteorite that crashed through the roof of her Sylacauga, Alabama home. More recently, in 2013, a meteorite exploded 12 miles above Russia with the force of 30 Hiroshima-sized atomic bombs, breaking windows in six cities and causing 1,500 people to seek treatment for injuries. The errant "bullets" flying through the solar system were evidently not a part of God's "very good" creation but resulted from the judgment of the global flood of Noah's day as discussed at rsr.org/hpt.

* 1:10:50 into RSR's Global Flood Video: You might want to watch RSR's Global Flood and Hydroplate Theory video (or buy it on DVD or Blu-ray to share with a friend). And you can see a brief mention about the loss of paradise using meteoroids as an example, and then see, embedded below, RSR friend and aerospace engineer Bryan Nickel's video on the origin of asteroids, meteoroids, and comets.

 

* "Walt Brown Was Here" & "All Scientists Work for Walt Brown" examples:

Zelandia, a continent larger than India, found submerged in the Pacific...
Zealandia, the submerged continent larger than India, testifies to the Hydroplate Theory.

From our All Scientists Work for Walt Brown file, interestingly, Maria Zuber, principal investigator for NASA's GRAIL mission, said, "It was known that planets were battered by impacts, but nobody had envisioned that the [Moon’s] crust was so beaten up." Nobody, that is, except for Dr. Brown. :)

* WWB Discoveries: It's pronounced a doubya-doubya-bee discovery, Workin' for Walt Brown! Once you've learned the major outlines of the fountains-of-the-great-deep (hydroplate theory) flood model, you'll notice that constantly, scientists make amazing discoveries that were foreseeable by, and help to confirm, Dr. Walt Brown's Hydroplate Theory! So we call these finds WWB Discoveries. See below how we sometimes mark them by planting a "Walt Brown was here" sign!

* Missing Crust in the Atlantic: This statement, All Scientists Work for Walt Brown, appears in our best-selling flood video and we may have first uttered it in 2007 when the BBC reported the discovery of the missing crust in the Atlantic, unexpected by plate tectonics advocates but a confirmation of a requirement of the Hydroplate Theory.

* ZEALANDIA -- The Sunken Continent in the Pacific: Then on the other side of the globe in 2017, researchers documented the existence of Zelandia, another WWB discovery (Workin' for Walt Brown)! The Geological Society of America published (see their Flip PDF) the finding, which is overtly consistent with and explained by the HPT, of an almost completely submerged continent in the Pacific Ocean larger than the sub-continent of India which researchers called Zealandia. One of the arguments against the HPT by creation geophysicist John Baumgardner is his invalidated claim that there is an "unmistakable absence of any thick layer of granitic crust in the Pacific basin." Zealandia and additional examples of peer-reviewed discoveries of "unexpected" continental crust beneath the Pacific and Indian Oceans falsify this particular argument. We will update our Retracted Objections section below if Dr. Baumgardner withdraws this criticism.

Walt Brown was here sign on Comet 67p.* Another WWB Discovery -- Comet 67P: (as above) The confirmation of yet another astounding HPT science prediction came in January 2015 when Enyart interviewed Dr. Walt Brown about the high-resolution images of Comet 67P just released by the European Space Agency along with the assessment of their scientists regarding the unexpectedly (to them) large rounded boulders (up to 10-feet in diameter) that they photographed that may be the comet's building blocks! This interview presents this latest discovery which, though it has shocked so many secular astronomers, has confirmed Walt Brown's specific prediction, published 13 years ago in the 7th Edition of his book In the Beginning, about the composition of comets. See more at rsr.org/predictions.

Astronaut in space station with Walt's book (on disc) In the Beginning
Walt Brown's book on the Int'l Space Station

* Landslide Filmed on Comet 67P: In a related story and now added to our RSR's List of Transient Events of the Solar System (TESS), the European Space Agency has filmed an actual landslide on Comet 67P. Just like every planet and all the other kinds of bodies in the solar system, this allegedly four-billion-year-old flying pile of rounded boulders produces transient events, that is, passing phenomena, like 67P's landslide and outgassing oxygen, that would be unexpected to see on billion-year-old objects. As for this landslide, of course stable cliffs are not easily built with rounded boulders, so happening to film a landslide as it happens is not shocking, as it is to old-earthers, but expected, as it is to students of the hydroplate theory!

* NASA Finds Salt on Ceres! Walt Brown's Hydroplate Theory predicts salt on asteroids, and Ceres is the largest object in the asteroid belt. Check out David Coppedge's overview of the discovery. (David is a fabulous science journalist on the board of Illustra Media.)

"Walt Brown  was here" sign on pier during lightning strike as scientists discover lightning produces radioisotopes
2017 Science Headlines: Lightning produces radioisotopes. (See ITB since 2010.) 

 

* Another WWB Discovery -- Lightning Produces Radioisotopes: In November 2017, the journal Nature reported that lightning storms "trigger atmospheric photonuclear reactions" that produce isotopes. In 2010 Dr. Brown published his Radioactivity theory including references to little-noticed research showing that atmospheric lightning produces radioisotopes (and also explains the Oklo Natural "Reactor"). See rsr.org/isotopes.

Another WWB Discovery: Diamonds in meteorites? Of course! From Earth and launched by the fountains of the great deep* Meteorite Minerals and Compounds, including diamonds, from Earth: See Walt Brown's Meteorites Return Home. "Meteorites containing diamonds, chondrules, salt crystals, water, limestone, DNA components, possible cellulose, sugars, living and fossil bacteria, terrestrial-like brines, excess left-handed amino acids, heavy hydrogen, and earthlike minerals, isotopes, and other components implicate Earth as their source—and the fountains of the great deep as the powerful launcher." Unlike elsewhere in the solar system, organisms on earth condense carbon molecules which then can be compressed into diamonds. Secular scientists appeal to a large planetary explosion. However, reasoning from cause to effect and from effect to cause both falisify this idea. The gravity of the mass of a large exploded planet would immediately collapse its fragments back upon themselves and reform the planet. Further, the solar system contains enough debris to form a small moon but not enough to account for a large planet, even when taking into account the impactors that have formed primary craters and the material that would burn up in the sun or escape its gravity. Therefore, neither anti-hydroplate creationists nor secular scientists should appeal to an exploding planet hypothesis to explain our current solar system.

* Walt Brown's Origin of Comets Chapter includes Pluto: Yet another WWB discovery on Pluto! Since 2002 the Hydroplate Theory has identified the origin of comets in the fountains of the great deep. Since 2014 Walt Brown has expanded that to include Pluto and the other TNOs (trans-Neptunian objects). Now in 2018, NASA data has been interpreted by mainstream astronomers to conclude that Pluto may be simply an enormous comet. All scientists work for Walt Brown!

An image of Pluto with a "Walt Brown was here" sign on it's surface, indicating Walt's insights on its formation.


TNO Snowman Ultima Thule: Walt Brown was here!* Walt Brown's Origin of Asteroids and TNOs: In 2019, a billion miles past Pluto NASA's New Horizon photographed yet another contact binary, Ultima Thule! Previously, regarding such binaries (or snowmen :) in a moment of candor NASA admitted that such "peanuts"  are mysteries. Mission scientist Donald Yeomans explained, "It's a major mystery how two objects each the size of skyscrapers could collide without blowing each other to smithereens. This is especially puzzling in a region of the solar system where gravitational forces would normally involve collision speeds of [4,500 mph]." All scientists work for Walt Brown!