Real Science Radio

RSR'S Timesaving Google Creation ToolMultiple Creation Site Search!

Welcome to Real Science Radio: Co-hosts Fred Williams and Doug McBurney talk about science to debunk evolution and to show the evidence for the creator God including from biology, genetics, geology, history, paleontology, archaeology, astronomy, philosophy, cosmology, math, and physics. (For example, mutations will give you bad legs long before you'd get good wings.) We get to debate Darwinists and atheists like Lawrence Krauss, AronRa, and Eugenie Scott. We easily take potshots from popular evolutionists like PZ Myers, Phil Plait, and Jerry Coyne. The RSR Archive contains our popular List Shows! And we interview the outstanding scientists who dare to challenge today's accepted creed that nothing created everything.

RSR airs every Friday at 3pm MST on AM 670 KLTT in Denver, Colorado. For rebroadcast times and podcast platforms, see our Affiliates page.

RSR is now on YouTube

 

Philosopher of Science Paul Nelson on Bird Flight

* The Design Implications of Flight: Real Science Radio's Bob Enyart interviews Paul Nelson, fellow with the Discovery Institute who was an associate of the famed Phillip Johnson of UC Berkeley who wrote Darwin on Trial. Dr. Nelson also organized the Mere Creation conference (1996), where the modern intelligent design research community first formed. Bob talks with Paul about the really fun Illustra film, Flight: The Genius of Birds, available from RSR on DVD or in a Blu-ray combo with another great video, Metamorphosis!

* How BEL Learned of Illustra Films: A decade ago in early 2004 one of our listeners from Colorado Springs called into the program to say that she had just watched on her local PBS Public Television station a documentary, Unlocking the Mystery of Life, that suggested that Darwin was wrong and that the evidence showed that that life must have been designed. We had a hard time believing that this was possible. How could a PBS station air so much simple common sense on a single program? Of the scholars and scientists in the film, Paul Nelson has been a major force in the Intelligent Design movement and appears in four Illustra films including their newest, Flight: The Genius of Birds.

* Paul Nelson Bio: Dr. Nelson is a Fellow with the Discovery Institute and an Adjunct Professor for the masters program in Science & Religion at Biola University. With a Ph.D. from the University of Chicago in the philosophy of biology and evolutionary theory, Paul Nelson was an associate of the famed Phillip Johnson of UC Berkeley, who wrote Darwin on Trial, and Paul organized the Mere Creation conference (1996), where the modern intelligent design research community first formed.

Paul Nelson, Discovery Institute* Discussion Topics: Bob Enyart and Paul Nelson describe:
- the groundbreaking animation in the Flight video of the hummingbird's astounding tongue, which does not use capillary action, as previously assumed, to drink nectar, but using an shockingly sophisticated mechanism of opening and closing compartments.
- the stunning animation and video of bird embryos developing within the egg.
- the 24,000-mile round-trip migration of Arctic Turns from Greenland to Antarctica and whether "instinct" resides in DNA (Bob Enyart thinks not), or perhaps somewhere in the epigenetics of the organism. (See quote below. Epigenetics is a kind of catchall phrase for all the information bound up in an living organism that does not reside in the DNA.)
- the stunning video of the murmuration of hundreds of thousands of starlings, flying as if choreographed in a awesome display of style and beauty. As Dr. Nelson said in the film, our response to this amazing phenomenon transcends words as we respond, like we do to great art, with our emotions and our soul.
- the fun animation of a single feather, which has as many as a million separate, amazingly integrated, parts.
- the animation of a bird's specialized muscles (which reminds Bob of his PZ Myers Trochlea Challenge, which Myers responded with an admission that he could not answer that simple question regarding natural selection's ability.
- though off topic, because Bob was one of hundreds in attendance in Pittsburgh in August 2014 when Dr. Nelson spoke to many scientists, authors, researchers, and engineers, he asked Paul to describe the genetic sequencing of ants and the most astounding discovery about their so-called orphan genes!

RSR: Schooling National Geographic on Camels

* National Geographic, not Bible, Wrong on Camels: :) You just can't make this stuff up...

* Extensive Evidence of Camels in Abraham's Day: Genesis is proved right again. Too bad National Geographic didn't first talk to archaeologist Dr. Titus Kennedy (who we learned about through the Associates for Biblical Research). If the Nat'l Geographic editors had, they would not have published their overtly false article last month claiming that Abraham could not have had domesticated animals as recorded in Genesis. Ha! There's loads of documentation of camel domestication from the ancient world, even many centuries prior to the time of Abraham!

* An Excerpt from Dr. Kennedy's Paper: The godless are willing to twist every fact in their attempt to discredit the Bible. To make their indefensible claim that the Bible is wrong to describe the domestication of camels in the time of the patriarchs, Dr. Kennedy points out that:

Camel caravan (shadows), photo from directly overhead. KGOV use by permission; (c) George Steinmetz...archaeological and textual evidence must be either ignored or explained away. Bones, hairs, wall paintings, models, inscriptions, seals, documents, statues, and stelae from numerous archaeological sites all suggest the camel in use as a domestic animal in the ancient Near East as early as the 3rd millennium BC, and certainly by the Middle Bronze Age.

* Monica Lewinsky/Madonna Wannabe Nina Burleigh: Post-show Update. Pervert, liberal journalist, and child-dismemberment celebrator Nina Burleigh interviewed Bob Enyart regarding abortion for a Newsweek cover story. ("Any politician willing to kill a single person is disqualified.") During their discussion Bob told Nina about the National Geographic camel fiasco. Then Enyart pointed out to Burleigh, who has written about bias in biblical archaeology, that she was so right to point out that opposition to the Bible could blind archaeologists to the evidence. Of course she emphasizes the contrary point, but did admit its reciprocal.

* Dr. Kennedy's Credentials: Hey, what an honor it is for Real Science Radio to have this guy on our program! (Of course we felt the same in November when RSR interviewed the world's most popular authority on Jericho, ABR's Dr. Bryan Wood, to celebrate the many discoveries of secular archaeologists that confirm important details in Joshua's account of ancient Jericho and its destruction. Thus the ruins of perhaps the world's greatest oldest city powerfully corroborate one of the most amazing accounts in the Bible.) Regarding Dr. Kennedy, his street creds include:
- Mount Zion excavations, Jerusalem. Supervisor, 2013.
- Suba (Cave of John the Baptist), Ein Kerem, Israel, Supervisor. 2011.
- Khirbet el-Maqatir Excavations, West Bank, Supervisor, 2009, 2011.
- Hazor Excavations, Hazor, Israel, Excavator, 2005, 2007, 2010.
- City of David Excavations, Jerusalem, Israel Antiquities Authority, Excavator. 2010.
- Temple Mount Sifting Project, Jerusalem, Sifter and Artifact Examiner, 2008, 2010.
- Mammoth Site, La Mirada, California. Supervisor, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013.
- MA in Near Eastern Archaeology, University of Toronto.
- MA in Biblical Archaeology, University of South Africa.
- PhD in Literature and Philosophy, Biblical Archaeology, University of South Africa.
- Associate of the Discovery Institute, Seattle, Washington (occasional)
- Languages: Hebrew, Greek, Egyptian Akkadian (Old Babylonian), French, and limited Russian, German, and Latin.
- Research Specialities include Archaeological Demography; Bronze and Iron Age Levant; New Kingdom Egypt; Roman Period Mediterranean; Archaeology and Ancient Texts; Artifact Photography; Comparative Archaeology. Database of 80 museums and collections including: the British Museum, the Louvre, the Metropolitan Museum of Art, the Israel Museum, the Rockefeller Museum, the Cairo Museum, and the Istanbul Archaeology Museums.

RSR Listeners Weigh In On Creation Debate

* Mississippi, Wisconsin, and Colorado Callers: Real Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams members of the brightest audience in the country who were worked up about Ken Ham's debate with Bill Nye The Science Guy. Fun stuff!

* Bill Nye Heartbroken and Sickened: Creation Museum founder Ken Ham announced yesterday that a municipal bond offering has raised enough money to begin construction on the Ark Encounter project, estimated to cost about $73 million! The Associated Press reports that Bill Nye is, "heartbroken and sickened for the Commonwealth of Kentucky" because the full-sized ark construction project has received its necessary funding to proceed. For more details, see this Associated Press story, Noah's ark project in KY to move forward; Bill Nye upset about it.

* Today's Resource: Did you hear our caller mention this really, really fun debate, Does God Exist? Well, you can read this entire Battle Royale VII: Does God Exist? for free online in the center ring in the Coliseum at TOL (TheologyOnline.com). Or, to support Real Science Radio (especially during our vital telethon), you can call 1-800-8Enyart (836-9278) or just click to purchase a comfortable paperback to read in bed or while at the park or sitting in your favorite arm chair! Here at Real Science Radio we make you this promise: You'll love this book, or your money back! (Now, how many authors make that offer? See our KGOV Store.com for our standard, no-small-print, five-word, money-back guarantee!)


Russian Translation: If you have a Russian who friend you'd like to share this with, thanks to Olga Nellis of Texas who is originally from Ukraine, you can download our translation of the initial rounds in Russian! (If you are fluent in Russian and would like to help Olga continue the translation, please email Bob@KGOV.com!)

RSR Nye/Ham Debate Analysis Pt. 3

* More Nye: Backing Up Claims with Claims: Bob Enyart and Fred Williams answer the remainder of Bill Nye's claims on today's Real Science Radio program showing again how Bill Nye uses claims to back up claims and various arguments that have been rejected by well-known evolutionists. Ken Ham put the debate in it's proper biblical context and the scientific evidence he did use was up-to-date and powerful. He also shared the gospel with the five million people who watched the debate. The guys do, however, list the ten big scientific advances that provide strong evidence against evolution that Ken could have mentioned.

* Ten Big Scientific Advances that Went Unused: A criticism of Ken was that regarding science he didn't take the offensive, and left unused powerful evidence like these ten enormously powerful advances in scientific discovery:

  1. dinosaur soft tissue
  2. short-lived carbon-14 everywhere it shouldn't be
  3. the tree of life demolished by both genetic sequencing and out-of-sequence fossils
  4. the fine tuning of the cosmos
  5. red-shift evidence for a center to the universe
  6. major discoveries that undermine the big bang
  7. irreducible complexity
  8. evidence of design everywhere in life
  9. layered strata from Mount St. Helens
10. Grand Canyon nautiloids and a clear statement of its flat gaps!

Please help RSR reach our telethon goal of $25,000 to stay on the air for 2014!
Funds here go a l-o-o-n-g way toward reaching many people!
Please help. We need you! Just browse our Science Department at the KGOV store,
or make a one-time or automatic monthly donation to Bob Enyart Live!

Ken Ham debates Bill Nye the science guy on creation

 

Bill Nye vs. Ken Ham Debate RSR Analysis Pt. 2

* RSR Nye/Ham Debate Analysis Pt. 2: See just below for our constructive criticism of the creation movement's longstanding disparagement of "historical" science. But first, Bob Enyart and Fred Williams answer the claims Bill Nye made in his debate with Ken Ham. The Real Science Radio hosts answer Nye's many wild claims with specifics and show how he repeatedly used claims to back up claims, instead of evidence to back up claims.

RSR Analysis of the Bill Nye-Ken Ham Debate

* Nye Backed Up Claims with Claims; Ham Wrong on Historical Science: Bob Enyart and Fred Williams critique both sides and answer Bill Nye's many wild claims with specifics and show how he repeatedly used claims to back up claims, instead of evidence to back up claims. For example, leading evolutionists including Richard Dawkins have admitted that the origin of sexual reproduction is a paradox and a deep mystery to Darwinists. Yet Bill Nye mentioned the obvious benefits of such reproduction, and pretended that the benefits were self-evident proof that sexual reproduction originated by Darwinian processes. Our Real Science Radio review also shows that Nye used a number of 30-year-old arguments that leading evolutionists themselves have rejected. We are thankful that Ken Ham put the debate in it's proper biblical context and that he shared the gospel with millions of people! When addressing science, Ken Ham tended to use evidence to back up his claims. However, below, we challenge Ken's claims about observational vs. historical science.

* Ten Big Scientific Advances that Went Unused: A criticism of Ken was that regarding science he didn't take the offensive, and left unused powerful evidence like these ten enormously powerful advances in scientific discovery:

  1. dinosaur soft tissue
  2. short-lived carbon-14 everywhere it shouldn't be
  3. the tree of life demolished by both genetic sequencing and out-of-sequence fossils
  4. the fine tuning of the cosmos
  5. red-shift evidence for a center to the universe
  6. major discoveries that contradict the big bang
  7. irreducible complexity
  8. evidence of design everywhere in life
  9. layered strata from Mount St. Helens
10. Grand Canyon nautiloids and a clear statement of its flat gaps!

* On the Claim that Creationism Will Harm America: Regarding the repeated claim that creationism will hurt America technologically, and that it is a lack of education that results in belief in God as Creator, Ken asked Nye to list an example of a technology or invention that required a belief in Darwinism or the big bang to bring about. (See more on this at rsr.org/technologies). Ken also could have pointed out that America leads the world in both the promotion of creation and in scientific progress! And also, none so many fathers of the physical sciences, along with hundreds of thousands of highly educated U.S. PhDs in science and the applied sciences say that the origin of human life requires God's hand.

Please help RSR reach our telethon goal of $25,000 to stay on the air for 2014!
Funds here go a l-o-o-n-g way toward reaching many people!
Please help. We need you! Just browse our Science Department at the KGOV store,
or make a one-time or automatic monthly donation to Bob Enyart Live!

Ken Ham debates Bill Nye the "science" guy, on creation* If you enjoyed this program: If you liked this program, you may also enjoy our:
- RSR Debate Analysis Part 2, Part 3
- our article Creationists Should Reevaluate Forensic Science
- our interview of Ken Ham on the day prior to the big debate
- our RSR List of Creation Science Predictions (refuting Nye's claim that creationists haven't made successful predictions about the natural world), and
- RSR callers weigh in about Ken Ham and Bill Nye.

Asteroid Challenges Naturalism, Supports Walt Brown

Ray Comfort: Evolution vs. God, shaking the foundations of faith* Creationists again celebrate the journal Nature: Real Science Radio host Bob Enyart interviews Dr. Walt Brown on last week's report in the leading peer-reviewed science journal, Nature, on the largest known asteroid, named Ceres, which is releasing a gallon and a half of water vapor per second! This significant discovery was expected by many creationists, including all those who agree with Dr. Walt Brown's Hydroplate Theory, but causes evolutionists, as usual, to go back to the drawing board.

* Falsifying the Exploded Planet Theory for Asteroid Origins: Also, Dr. Brown, PhD in mechanical engineering from MIT, mentions that basic gravitational calculations undermine the exploded dwarf planet theory for the origin of the asteroid belt, as illustrated by the observtion that such a planet made completely out of TNT, if exploded, would not disperse but immediately reform by the mutual gravitation attraction of its matter.

Today’s Resource: Have you browsed through our Science Department in the KGOV Store? Check out especially Walt Brown’s In the Beginning and Bob’s interviews with this great scientist in our Hydroplate Theory On the Air series of radio programs! Purchase either one and if you ask, we'll send you as a gift Ray Comfort's really fun video, Evolution vs. God. And for your children or grandchildren, you really should consider giving them as a gift the superb kids' radio programming, Jonathan Park: The Adventure Begins!

RSR's List of Not So Old Things

* Updated June 20, 2021 -- Finches Diversify in Decades, Opals Form in Months,  Man's Genetic Diversity in 200 Generations, C-14 Everywhere: Real Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams present their classic program that led to the audience-favorites rsr.org/list-shows! See below and hear on today's radio program our list of Not So Old and Not So Slow Things! From opals forming in months to man's genetic diversity in 200 generations, and with carbon 14 everywhere it's not supposed to be (including in diamonds and dinosaur bones!), scientific observations fill the guys' most traditional list challenging those who claim that the earth is billions of years old. Many of these scientific finds demand a re-evaluation of supposed million and billion-year ages.

Photo of a finch bird* Finches Adapt in 17 Years, Not 2.3 Million: Charles Darwin's finches are claimed to have taken 2,300,000 years to diversify from an initial species blown onto the Galapagos Islands. Yet individuals from a single finch species on a U.S. Bird Reservation in the Pacific were introduced to a group of small islands 300 miles away from any other land, and in at most 17 years, like Darwin's finches, they had diversified their beaks, related muscles, and behavior to fill various ecological niches. See this at cell.com in the peer-reviewed journal Trends in Ecology & Evolution and hear about it also at rsr.org/spetner where Israeli biophysicist Dr. Spetner asks, "If this diversification occurred in less than seventeen years, why did Darwin’s Galapagos finches [as claimed by evolutionists] have to take two million years?"

opals form rapidly* Opals Can Form in "A Few Months" And Don't Need 100,000 Years: A leading authority on opals, Allan W. Eckert, observed that, "scientific papers and textbooks have told that the process of opal formation requires tens of thousands of years, perhaps hundreds of thousands... Not true." A 2011 peer-reviewed paper in a geology journal from Australia, where almost all the world's opal is found, reported on the: "new timetable for opal formation involving weeks to a few months and not the hundreds of thousands of years envisaged by the conventional weathering model." (And apparently, per a 2019 report from Entomology Today, opals can even form around insects!) More knowledgeable scientists resist the uncritical, group-think insistence on false super-slow formation rates (as also for manganese nodules, gold veins, stone, petroleum, canyons and gullies, and even guts, all below). Regarding opals, Darwinian bias led geologists to long ignore possible quick action, as from microbes, as a possible explanation for these mineraloids. For both in nature and in the lab, opals form rapidly, not even in 10,000 years, but in weeks. See this also from creationists by a geologist, a paleobiochemist, and a nuclear chemist.

blue human eye* Blue Eyes Originated Not So Long Ago: Not a million years ago, nor a hundred thousand years ago, but based on a peer-reviewed paper in Human Genetics, a press release at Science Daily reports that, "research shows that people with blue eyes have a single, common ancestor. A team at the University of Copenhagen have tracked down a genetic mutation which took place 6-10,000 years ago and is the cause of the eye colour of all blue-eyed humans alive on the planet today."

* Adding the Entire Universe to our List of Not So Old Things? Based on March 2019 findings from Hubble, Nobel laureate Adam Riess of the Space Telescope Science Institute and his co-authors in the Astrophysical Journal estimate that the universe is about a billion years younger than previously thought! Then in September 2019 in the journal Science, the age dropped precipitiously to as low as 11.4 billion years! Of course, these measurements also further squeeze the canonical story of the big bang chronology with its many already existing problems including the insufficient time to "evolve" distant mature galaxies, galaxy clusters, superclusters, enormous black holes, filaments, bubbles, walls, and other superstructures. So, even though the latest estimates are still absurdly too old (Google: big bang predictions, and click on the #1 ranked article, or just go on over there to rsr.org/bb), regardless, we thought we'd plop the whole universe down on our List of Not So Old Things!  

Check out these images among 26 science journals that have published papers confirming dinosaur soft tissue. See tiny.cc/bflist & rsr.org/soft* After the Soft Tissue Discoveries, NOW Dino DNA: When a North Carolina State University paleontologist took the Tyrannosaurus Rex photos to the right of original biological material, that led to the 2016 discovery of dinosaur DNA, So far researchers have also recovered dinosaur blood vessels, collagen, osteocytes, hemoglobin, red blood cells, and various proteins.

Screenshot of the web's most comprehensive list of biomaterial fossil papersAs of May 2018, twenty-six scientific journals, including Nature, Science, PNAS, PLoS One, Bone, and Journal of Vertebrate Paleontology, have confirmed the discovery of biomaterial fossils from many dinosaurs! Organisms including T. Rex, hadrosaur, titanosaur, triceratops, Lufengosaur, mosasaur, and Archaeopteryx, and many others dated, allegedly, even hundreds of millions of years old, have yielded their endogenous, still-soft biological material. See the web's most complete listing of 100+ journal papers (screenshot, left) announcing these discoveries at bflist.rsr.org and see it in layman's terms at rsr.org/soft.

* Rapid Stalactites, Stalagmites, Etc.: A construction worker in 1954 left a lemonade bottle in one of Australia's famous Jenolan Caves. By 2011 it had been naturally transformed into a stalagmite (below, right). Increasing scientific knowledge is arguing for rapid cave formation (see below, Nat'l Park Service shrinks Carlsbad Caverns formation estimates from 260M years, to 10M, to 2M, to it "depends"). Likewise, examples are growing of rapid formations with typical chemical make-up (see bottle, left) of classic stalactites and stalagmites including:
See another awesome photo of this natural cave stalagmite over a lemonade bottle- in Nat'l Geo the Carlsbad Caverns stalagmite that rapidly covered a bat
- the tunnel stalagmites at Tennessee's Raccoon Mountain
- hundreds of stalactites beneath the Lincoln Memorial
- those near Gladfelter Hall at Philadelphia's Temple University (send photos to Bob@rsr.org)
- hundreds of stalactites at Australia's zinc mine at Mt. Isa.  
- and those beneath Melbourne's Shrine of Remembrance.

* Most Human Mutations Arose in 200 Generations: From Adam until Real Science Radio, in only 200 generations! The journal Nature reports The Recent Origin of Most Human Protein-coding Variants. As summarized by geneticist co-author Joshua Akey, "Most of the mutations that we found arose in the last 200 generations or so" (the same number previously published by biblical creationists). Another 2012 paper, in the American Journal of Physical Anthropology (Eugenie Scott's own field) on High mitochondrial mutation rates, shows that one mitochondrial DNA mutation occurs every other generation, which, as creationists point out, indicates that mtEve would have lived about 200 generations ago. That's not so old!

* National Geographic's Not-So-Old Hard-Rock Canyon at Mount St. Helens: As our List of Not So Old Things (this web page) reveals, by a kneejerk reaction evolutionary scientists assign ages of tens or hundreds of thousands of years (or at least just long enough to contradict Moses' chronology in Genesis.) However, with closer study, routinely, more and more old ages get revised downward to fit the world's growing scientific knowledge. So the trend is not that more information lengthens ages, but rather, as data replaces guesswork, ages tend to shrink until they are consistent with the young-earth biblical timeframe. Consistent with this observation, the May 2000 issue of National Geographic quotes the U.S. Forest Service's scientist at Mount St. Helens, Peter Frenzen, describing the canyon on the north side of the volcano. "You'd expect a hard-rock canyon to be thousands, even hundreds of thousands of years old. But this was cut in less than a decade." And as for the volcano itself, while again, the kneejerk reaction of old-earthers would be to claim that most geologic features are hundreds of thousands or millions of years old, the atheistic National Geographic magazine acknowledges from the evidence that Mount St. Helens, the volcanic mount, is only about 4,000 years old! See below and more at rsr.org/mount-st-helens.

* Mount St. Helens Dome Ten Years Old not 1.7 MillionGeochron Laboratories of Cambridge, Mass., using potassium-argon and other radiometric techniques claims the rock sample they dated, from the volcano's dome, solidified somewhere between 340,000 and 2.8 million years ago. However photographic evidence and historical reports document the dome's formation during the 1980s, just ten years prior to the samples being collected. With the age of this rock known, radiometric dating therefore gets the age 99.99999% wrong.

Death Valley's Devils Hole pupfish cyprinodon diabolis, males* Devils Hole Pupfish Isolated Not for 13,000 Years But for 100: Secular scientists default to knee-jerk, older-than-Bible-age dates. However, a tiny Mojave desert fish is having none of it. Rather than having been genetically isolated from other fish for 13,000 years (which would make this small school of fish older than the Earth itself), according to a paper in the journal Nature, actual measurements of mutation rates indicate that the genetic diversity of these Pupfish could have been generated in about 100 years, give or take a few.

Removed Yellowstone Petrified Tree Sign* Polystrates like Spines and Rare Schools of Fossilized Jellyfish: Previously, seven sedimentary layers in Wisconsin had been described as taking a million years to form. And because jellyfish have no skeleton, as Charles Darwin pointed out, it is rare to find them among fossils. But now, reported in the journal Geology, a school of jellyfish fossils have been found throughout those same seven layers. So, polystrate fossils that condense the time of strata deposition from eons to hours or months, include:
- Jellyfish in central Wisconsin were not deposited and fossilized over a million years but during a single event quick enough to trap a whole school. (This fossil school, therefore, taken as a unit forms a polystrate fossil.) Examples are everywhere that falsify the claims of strata deposition over millions of years.
- Countless trilobites buried in astounding three dimensionality around the world are meticulously recovered from limestone, much of which is claimed to have been deposited very slowly. Contrariwise, because these specimens were buried rapidly in quickly laid down sediments, they show no evidence of greater erosion on their upper parts as compared to their lower parts.
photo of polystrate radiating spines- The delicacy of radiating spine polystrates, like tadpole and jellyfish fossils, especially clearly demonstrate the rapidity of such strata deposition.
- A second school of jellyfish, even though they rarely fossilized, exists in another locale with jellyfish fossils in multiple layers, in Australia's Brockman Iron Formation, constraining there too the rate of strata deposition. By the way, jellyfish are an example of evolution's big squeeze. Like galaxies evolving too quickly, galaxy clusters, and even human feet (which, like Mummy DNA, challenge the Out of Africa paradigm), jellyfish have gotten into the act squeezing evolution's timeline, here by 200 million years when they were found in strata allegedly a half-a-billion years old. Other examples, ironically referred to as Medusoid Problematica, are even found in pre-Cambrian strata.
171 tadpoles of the same species buried in diatoms.
- Leaves buried vertically through single-celled diatoms powerfully refute the claimed super-slow deposition of diatomaceous rock.
- Many fossils, including a Mesosaur, have been buried in multiple "varve" layers, which are claimed to be annual depositions, yet they show no erosional patterns that would indicate gradual burial (as they claim, absurdly, over even thousands of years).
- A single whale skeleton preserved in California in dozens of layers of diatom deposits thus forming a polystrate fossil.
- 40 whales buried in the desert in Chile. "What's really interesting is that this didn't just happen once," said Smithsonian evolutionist Dr. Nick Pyenson. It happened four times." Why's that? Because "the fossil site has at least four layers", to which Real Science Radio's Bob Enyart replies: "Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha", with RSR co-host Fred Williams thoughtfully adding, "Ha ha!"

photo of a polystrate tree* Polystrate Trees: Examples abound around the world of polystrate trees
- Yellowstone's petrified polystrate forest (with the NPS exhibit sign removed; see below) with successive layers of rootless trees demonstrating the rapid deposition of fifty layers of strata.
- A similarly formed polystrate fossil forest in France demonstrating the rapid deposition of a dozen strata.
- In a thousand locations including famously the Fossil Cliffs of Joggins, Nova Scotia, polystrate fossils such as trees span many strata.
- These trees lack erosion: Not only should such fossils, generally speaking, not even exist, but polystrates including trees typically show no evidence of erosion increasing with height. All of this powerfully disproves the claim that the layers were deposited slowly over thousands or millions of years. In the experience of your RSR radio hosts, evolutionists commonly respond to this hard evidence with mocking. See CRSQ June 2006, ICR Impact #316, and RSR 8-11-06 at KGOV.com.

Removed Yellowstone Petrified Tree Sign* Yellowstone Petrified Trees Sign Removed: The National Park Service removed their incorrect sign (see left and more). The NPS had claimed that in dozens of different strata over a 40-square mile area, many petrified trees were still standing where they had grown. The NPS eventually removed the sign partly because those petrified trees had no root systems, which they would have had if they had grown there. Instead, the trees of this "fossil forest" have roots that are abruptly broken off two or three feet from their trunks. If these mature trees actually had been remnants of sequential forests that had grown up in strata layer on top of strata layer, 27 times on Specimen Ridge (and 50 times at Specimen Creek), such a natural history implies passage of more time than permitted by biblical chronology. So, don't trust the National Park Service on historical science because they're wrong on the age of the Earth.

Wood Petrifies Quickly: Not surprisingly, by the common evolutionary knee-jerk claim of deep time, "several researchers believe that several millions of years are necessary for the complete formation of silicified wood". Our List of Not So Old and Not So Slow Things includes the work of five Japanese scientists who proved creationist research and published their results in the peer-reviewed journal Sedimentary Geology showing that wood can and does petrify rapidly. Modern wood significantly petrified in 36 years these researchers concluded that wood buried in strata could have been petrified in "a fairly short period of time, in the order of several tens to hundreds of years."