Real Science Radio

Real Science Radio

Welcome to Real Science Radio: with co-hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams talking about science to debunk evolution and to show the evidence for the creator God including from biology, genetics, geology, history, paleontology, archaeology, astronomy, philosophy, cosmology, and physics. (For example, mutations will give you bad legs long before you'd get good wings.) We get to debate Darwinists and atheists like Lawrence Krauss, AronRa, and Eugenie Scott. We easily take potshots from popular evolutionists like PZ Myers, Phil Plait, and Jerry Coyne. We're the home of the popular List Shows! And we interview the outstanding scientists who dare to challenge today's accepted creed that nothing created everything.

The Multiverse is a Yardstick to Measure the Strength of the Fine-Tuning Argument

* What is the Multiverse? Real Science Radio co-host Fred Williams passes along a question from a listener to Bob Enyart, "What's the Multiverse?" Bob answers, "The multiverse is a yardstick used to measure the strength of the fine tuning argument for God." But then, "Why do so many atheists support the multiverse?" Answer: "The degree of acceptance of the multiverse measures the desperation of atheists."

* Another Transient Event: Oxygen on Comet 67P: Bob and Fred also report on all the oxygen outgassing from comet 67P, to the dismay of atheists. Prof. Kathrin Altwegg is the project leader for the instrument which which measured the comet releasing oxygen over the course of seven months, the ROSINA mass spectrometer. It is because of well-known basic chemistry that Dr. Altwegg had to awkwardly admit, “We had never thought that oxygen could 'survive' for billions of years without combining with other substances." Yet even though oxygen is highly reactive, there it is, allegedly after billions of years, constituting much of the comet’s atmosphere along with water vapor, carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, and other gases. Of course though plentiful oxygen in comets is consistent with a young earth and an accurate understanding of origins, including as we reported at And while you need a (very worthwhile) subscription to to read his article, we also recommend Dr. Jonathan Sarfati's Oxygen in comet atmosphere undermines billions of years.

* NASA's Bait-and-Switch on Water and Life: Today's program includes a brief audio clip from RSR's upcoming Evidence Against the Big Bang video. This audio documents NASA's typical bait-and-switch when they state the obvious, and something that everyone knows, that: Water is NEEDED TO MAINTAIN life. Then they switch that out for a claim that runs contrary to everything known about chemistry, when by a slight-of-hand they claim that water would be a BENEFIT to the ORIGIN OF LIFE from matter. In reality, water is the universal solvent, and would relentlessly dissolve amino acids, any polymers, etc.

* Marijuana Mutates DNA and Harms One's Descendants: The guys discuss the latest horrific study on marijuana which strengthens a 2009 study confirming that smoking pot does in fact cause mutations, including heritable mutations that harm one's own children and grandchildren. See this and so much more at aka RSR's List of the Negative Effects of Marijuana

* Updated Show Summary for Last Week's Frank Turek Interview: Finally, Bob and Fred mention last week's interview with Apologist Frank Turek. That show summary has been updated including with the promised list of the few but important matters that RSR disagrees with Dr. Turek on. You can find this at

Apologist Frank Turek on Real Science Radio

* Bob Enyart and Frank Turek Talk Apologetics: RSR co-host Bob Enyart interviews famed apologist and Christopher Hitchens debate opponent, Frank Turek on his observation: It’s not that the argument for atheism fails but rather, if atheism were true, every argument fails. Bob highly recommends Dr. Turek’s book, Stealing from God (whether in print, digital, or audiobook format). The two discuss the law of causality, immaterial reality including the laws of logic, irrationality including theoretical physicist (emphasis on the theoretical) Lawrence Krauss, and the atheists’ problem of evil.

* When the Cat's Away: After Dr. Turek leaves the program Bob continues to discuss this tremendous apologist and his great book. But Bob also highlights a few areas of disagreement including timelessness and the Big Bang. Dr. Turek rightly rejects the materialist explanation for the diversity of life of Earth, i.e., Darwinism, and he also rightly rejects the Christianized version of that theory, theistic evolution. However, unfortunately Frank accepts the big bang theory, and worse, uses the big bang as evidence for God, via a Christianized version of that materialist explanation for the development of the universe. If you take the time to review our rebuttals to these claims of Dr. Turek, please send along your thoughts to See:
- God Has a Past at showing that the doctrine of divine timelessness cannot withstand the Incarnation
- Google: big bang predictions, and then click on the #1 top-ranked article which happens to be ours, at (aka Or for an easier read, just search for: evidence against the big bang, and then click on our KGOV article atop those results, or find it at

* Solving the Full Euthyphro's Dilemma: In their brief comments, the guys agreed on this topic. But you might want to see our Euthyphro article which goes beyond the typical apologist's response and answers not just the argument as thrown at us by atheists. We go further to answer the deeper included question of: How can God Himself know that He is good? (Hint: A unitarian deity like Allah, if he existed, would have a way of determining for certain that he were evil, if he were; but he could not determine for certain whether he were good.) Thinkers like Dr. Jonathan Sarfati and Dr. John Lennox have noticed our article, which you can read at

* By the Way, Our Two James White YouTube Videos: are about to hit 3,300 and 20,000 views. This first 2-minute video of excerpts presents The Shocking White/Enyart Debate Aftermath. In the aftermath, and for the reason explaned just below, R.C. Sproul Jr. and Dr. James White both startlingly deny that God the Son took upon Himself a human nature.
- Sproul: "God the Son does not now nor has He ever had two natures."
- White: "God the Son does not have two natures. I did not 'admit' that He did/does/will etc."
These men are currently denying this central doctrine of Christianity (hopefully only temporarily, and hopefully, they will simply retract their shocking comments) because they are trying to defend the claim from Plato that God is utterly timeless (thus without sequence) and that He is utterly immutable (incapable of any change whatsoever). Please pray for these men who clearly love the Lord but who are subordinating the biblical Incarnate Son of God to an extreme Platonic utter immutability. See also: for our interview with Liberty University assoc. prof. of apologetics and theology Dr. Richard Holland on his research demonstrating, including with stunning examples, that for 1500 years, leading Christian theologians arguing for atemporality and utter immutability have NEVER ONCE defended those doctrines in light of the Incarnation. (Thus it is not surprising that James White and R.C. Sproul Jr. would have such a difficult time here, because they are attempting to wade into uncharted theological territory.)
- the full Enyart/White debate just below and at,
- for analysis and the complete aftermath.


To summarize James White's heretical position, while he very readily admits that Jesus has a divine and a human nature, he refuses to acknowledge the same of God the Son, that He has a divine and a human nature. God the Son and Jesus Christ are the same Person. White's refusal to acknowledge that God the Son has a human nature is a form of the Nestorian heresy, which even Sproul's own father has warned Christians about. It is almost as though, to defend the unbiblical teachings of utter immutability and atemporality, these men feel themselves pushed into a direction of broaching the horrifically false idea of Jesus as a fourth person of the Trinity. As made manifestly evident by Scripture, by Liberty University's Dr. Richard Holland in his book, God, Time, and the Incarnation, there are not two persons of Jesus and God the Son, but rather, the one Person of the Son who became Incarnate as Jesus Christ. Another way of spotting this error is to realize that James White is claiming that Jesus the Man became Man, but that God the Son did not become Man. And to paraphrase John Lennox, So it turns out that heresy is heresy .  

Multiplied Claims that Things Evolved Multiple Times Destroy Darwin's Tree

* Back from Assignment in China: Real Science Radio host Fred Williams is back from assignment in China and shares with Bob Enyart and the RSR audience his observation that affirms biblical history drawn from exhibits in the Shanghai Museum that cover thousands of years of Chinese history, namely, the enduring presence of dragons! Additionally, ancient Chinese pictographs speak eloquently of the earlier chapters of Genesis!

* Using the Appendix as a Lens to View Darwin's Tree: The guys then use the lowly appendix as a lens to view Darwin's Tree of Life and end up seeing something really funny.

* And from today's program, see also:
- RSR's global flood video now streaming online
- get ready to pre-order our Evidence Against the Big Bang video
- and please come to Denver in you can to celebrate our 25th Anniversary on June 3rd through the 5th!


Hydroplate Theory Tutorial Producer Pt 2

* HPT Proponent Bryan Nickel: Our best-selling science video is on the global flood and it has a bonus section produced by Bryan Nickel, a mechanical engineer and advocate of the flood Hydroplate Theory. Real Science Radio co-host Bob Enyart concludes his interview with Bryan about his YouTube tutorial series that visually explains Dr. Walt Brown’s theory of the flood of Noah’s day. (Part 1 is here.) That catastrophic event was a divinely architected judgment that marred not only the face of the whole earth, but had as its purpose also the marring of the faces, so-to-speak, of the Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, and indeed, the blemishing of the entire solar system, for "the whole creation groans" because of the Fall. The triggering event of the HPT is the breaking forth of the fountains of the great deep, which deep waters, about sixty miles below the Earth's surface, were reserved for judgment in a globe-encircling subterranean chamber beneath the crust. We hope you enjoy hearing this as much as Enyart and Nickel enjoy discussing the scientific issues involved!


* Unrelated BEL Flashback to One of Our Political Shows: Bob Enyart and co-host Doug McBurney discuss Hillary Clinton’s bold revelation that, (surprise!) “At the risk of appearing predictable [i.e., completely dishonest], the Holy Bible was and remains the biggest influence on my thinking”. [Share Hillary meme on Facebook!]

* Hillary in the Just-a-System: "It's no longer a justice system; now it's just a system," says Bob Enyart as he re-airs and analyzes the 1980s interview in which Hillary laughs about the rape of a 12 year old girl and the miscarriage of justice she engineered so that the rapist could get away with it (foreshadowing the enabler helping her own husband). See this also at




Hydroplate Theory Tutorial Producer on RSR

* HPT Proponent Bryan Nickel: Our best-selling science video is on the global flood and it has a bonus section produced by Bryan Nickel, a mechanical engineer and advocate of the flood Hydroplate Theory. Real Science Radio co-host Bob Enyart interviews Bryan about his YouTube tutorial series that visually explains Dr. Walt Brown’s theory of the flood of Noah’s day. That catastrophic event was a divinely architected judgment that marred not only the face of the whole earth, but had as its purpose also the marring of the faces, so-to-speak, of the Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, and indeed, the blemishing of the entire solar system, for "the whole creation groans" because of the Fall. The triggering event of the HPT is the breaking forth of the fountains of the great deep, which deep waters, about sixty miles below the Earth's surface, were reserved for judgment in a globe-encircling subterranean chamber beneath the crust. We hope you enjoy hearing this as much as Enyart andNickel enjoy discussing the scientific issues involved!

Tonight! Climate Hustle at a Theater Near You

* Climate Hustle in Theaters Tonight Only: For a brief few minutes, Real Science Radio host Bob Enyart gets to speak with Dr. Bonner Cohen, one of the senior policy analysts behind tonight's Climate Hustle film. If you live in the Denver area, try to make the 7 p.m. showing at the Promenade, or on the 16th Street Mall, Belmar, Orchard, Greenwood, or Highlands Ranch, or join Bob and the RSR crew at the UA Theater at Colorado Mills! And if you live elsewhere, check for a theater at for this one-night-only Fathom Event near you. Remember also that on Friday we interviewed one of the writer/producers of Climate Hustle, Craig Rucker. And finally, Bob highlights the funnier (or sadder) global warming hype news headlines of the last few years!

Now available in streaming video rental: RSR's Global Flood Video!

Part 1 and part 2 are now available for streaming video rental. Each part is $4.99 to rent for up 5 views and the rental will expire in 30 days. When you click on the video a "Buy Now" pop-up will allow you to complete your transaction. In your e-mail, you will also get an individual password, in case you need it to sign in and watch later. 

Global Flood and Hydroplate Theory Part 1



Global Flood and Hydroplate Theory Part 2


RSR's Report on the 50th Anniversary of the Wistar Conference

* Wistar Conference 50th Anniversary Report: (For seven minutes prior to the wistar report, Bob Enyart interviews a writer for Monday's film Climate Hustle.) Fifty years ago this week in Philadelphia on the University of Pennsylvania campus dozens of the world’s most expert minds in mathematics and engineering meet for the Wistar Conference. These were professors from MIT and Harvard who invited their colleagues from their own universities and elsewhere, and especially the biology professors. They met to question, mathematically, whether or not Darwinian evolution were even possible. Bob Enyart reports on the meeting from a half century ago and updates the argument with the latest findings from molecular biology!

* Here are the Evolution Challenges Promised On Today's Program: See just below for RSR's Evolution Vision Challenge and click for our PZ Myers's Trochlea Challenge and our Dawkins 3-to-1 Evolution Challenge!  


RSR Explains Targeted Antibodies

The mainstream media should be running weekly headlines
updating the public on the latest progress with targeted antibody treatment.
For some reason though, for now, if you want to keep up with the latest astounding
cancer treatment developments, you'll have to keep tuning in to BEL and Real Science Radio!  

* Targeted Antibodies Cancer Treatment Revolution: In the latest exciting results for targeted antibodies cancer treatment, CBS News has now reported on a 35 terminally-ill, advanced-stage leukemia sufferers. The disease went into remission in 94%, or 33 of 35 patients! Dr. Michael Grossbard, New York University's Perlmutter Cancer Center leukemia specialist told CBS News, "Oncologists are reluctant to use the word extraordinary. But these [results] are extraordinary. These are really remarkable findings..." Real Science Radio host Bob Enyart turns to RSR's targeted-antibody expert, Jonathan Bartlett, who explains both the molecular biology behind this new treatment and the worldview implications ahead of it. Bartlett also discusses the impossibility that an evolutionist faces in trying to understand such a treatment and why so many scholars are fleeing Darwinism.

* Handy List of These Targeted Antibodies and Other Select Cancer Reports:
- 2016: Molecular biologist Kevin Anderson on antibody treatment on RSR
- 2016: The Daily Mail reports that University Hospital is starting to use the word "cure" and also the words "hugely effective" to describe the results of targeted antibody treatment for some cancers including "lung and skin cancer... kidney, bladder, and head and neck cancers [which include] some of the most aggressive types which are extremely difficult to treat and, together, claim hundreds of thousands of lives each year."
- 2016 CBS News reports "extraordinary results" for targeted therapy for 94% of patients with leukemia.
- 2016: A Daily Express report on late-stage lung cancer "cure" using antibodies (immunotherapy)
- 2016: BEL/RSR Colorado's sole source of news updates on targeted antibody cancer treatment (weird, no?)
- 2016: In one British trial, "patients with advanced skin cancer who would have been declared terminally ill are now back at work and are predicted to live until old age. ... "
- 2016: In Dr. Rebecca Kristeleit's "area of gynaecological cancers, scientists and doctors [are] seeing dramatic responses in the very first human trials... Kristeleit... runs clinical trial programmes looking at early-stage drugs... certain immunotherapies were licensed and happening - increasing patients' cancer survival rates after cancer. In melanoma and lung cancers they were licenced and working."
- 2016: Beautiful 12-year old Boulder girl was near to entering hospice but targeted cancer treatment kept her at home and in apparent remission! Zaida's mom, Nichol Mattson, says: "Everybody with cancer needs to have some kind of targeted treatment!" RSR agrees.

* Other Select Cancer Treatment Reports:
- 2016: Man cured of prostate cancer after testosterone treatment, shocking improvement for many others in study 
- 2016: After wiping out tumors in early tests a molecule in Australian berries is now in human trialsper QBiotics
- 2010: Related -- See RSR: Nat'l Cancer Inst. Researcher Admits Abortion/Breast Cancer Link 
- Please feel free to send encouraging cancer treatment reports to Thanks!

April 22nd, our first of half-a-dozen targeted antibodies programs in 2016. See all.
March 9th, 2012, our first broadcast explaining the "targeting" concept. Hear it.

* Molecular Biologist Kevin Anderson on Antibody Treatment: If this program interests you, then you may want to hear our July 2016 interview with Dr. Kevin Anderson!

* May 2016 Update from the Daily MailAre we nearing a cure for cancer? Holy grail is 'closer than ever', oncologist claims quotes Dr Rebecca Kristeleit, of University College London Hospital, who reports that advances in a revolutionary treatment called immunotherapy [targeted antibodies] were now occurring at a rapid rate. Dr Kristeleit added: 'We are beginning to start thinking about using that word 'cure'... As an oncologist, it's not a word you would ever say. This is because we talk a lot about being 'in remission' - but 'cure' is the Holy Grail."


* Hear Also
: You may want to hear Jonathan's 2010 RSR interview and then visit the Blyth Institute at, and you can check out the Alternatives to Methodological Naturalism Conference at

American College of Pediatricians on RSR

Bob Enyart interviews endocrinologist Dr. Quentin Van Meter, vice president of the American College of Pediatricians about the gender confusion that is foisted upon children by the politically correct establishment of the western world. Their website,, states that human sexuality is an objective biological binary trait, XY or XX, making the child a boy or girl at conception, and that conditioning children into believing a lifetime of chemical and surgical impersonation of the opposite sex is normal and healthful is child abuse.

* BEL YouTube Channel Note: We asked and you helped! Thanks so much! Our Ramsey: The Clue that Breaks the Case video has now surpassed 10,000 views. Our next request: Please help us reach our short-term goal for the Bob Enyart Live YouTube Channel of 150,000 views! We're so close! (And while you're at it, if you'd like to help even more, you can click Subscribe, which is free of course.) So you can watch any of our science videos. Also, our Dump Starbucks video is nearing 20,000 views, so perhaps you can help us reach both goals by viewing this:



Today's Resource: Bible Tour of Turkey - Blu-ray & DVD

New... now on video. Join Bob and his friends from the BEL audience on their Bible tour of Turkey! The stories of Scripture come to life as you see the actual locations of the extraordinary events recorded in the Bible. Many archaeological discoveries confirm the historical accounts in God's written word. If we can find evidence that the story of the Bible is true, perhaps then, the moral of the story may be true also! And of course it is, as confirmed by many infallible proofs! This video is packed with exciting details that you won't want to miss!


Spring 2016 Creation Mag Headlines Pt 2

* RSR Show Summary: Real Science Radio's Bob Enyart and Fred Williams share more news headlines from the current issue of (The guys are wondering, by the way, whether you have subscribed yet for yourself or for a friend, child, or grandchild?) On today's program hear about yet another example of the bad science that flows from Darwinism, this time, regarding the appendix, which is not a vestigial organ. Then there's the unfossilized bones of a hadrosaur recently discovered in Alaska and reported in a respected science journal. Mainstream news headlines, however, caught Bob and Fred's attention at the start of today's program. A study reports that believers use the emotional and not the analytical part of their brain when they think about God. Of course that makes sense because, just as the guys describe their thoughts toward their wives, so too are our thoughts toward the Lord, for God is a person. Those who believe in Him love Him with all their heart, mind, soul, and strength. So, as the fear of the Lord is the "beginning" of wisdom, and analytical thinking accompanies conversion, it is the relationship between God and man that then flowers into worship and love.

* BEL YouTube Channel Note: Here's an easy way to help us grow the Bob Enyart Live YouTube Channel. You can watch any of our science videos or help us cross the 10,000-views mark by viewing our Ramsey: The Clue that Breaks the Case video...

* Update: Thanks guys! We reached 10,000 views this week on this video!