Real Science Radio

Welcome to Real Science Radio: Co-hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams talk about science to debunk evolution and to show the evidence for the creator God including from biology, genetics, geology, history, paleontology, archaeology, astronomy, philosophy, cosmology, math, and physics. (For example, mutations will give you bad legs long before you'd get good wings.) We get to debate Darwinists and atheists like Lawrence Krauss, AronRa, and Eugenie Scott. We easily take potshots from popular evolutionists like PZ Myers, Phil Plait, and Jerry Coyne. We're the home of the popular List Shows! And we interview the outstanding scientists who dare to challenge today's accepted creed that nothing created everything.

RSR's Pre-Christmas Show with the Top Ten Reasons Why...

Real Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams enjoy a light, pre-Christmas program. The guys present Westword's "Best Church Advertisement" award for an ad that ran in the Denver Post titled, "Top Ten Reasons Why Liberals Hate the Holidays". Fred also asked about the jury trial that Bob testified in this week and about the defendant who was convicted of harassment and violating a restraining order designed to protect the BEL crew, and the various restraining orders that BEL and RSR have obtained against a handful of, well, let's call them, overzealous listeners.

* Here's the Church Ad Bob & Fred Read: We found the following image in our studio scrapbook. Fifteen years ago Denver Bible Church (where Bob Enyart pastors) ran an advertisement in the Denver Post. The liberal Westword newspaper took note and named DBC for one of their annual "Best Of" Awards...

Best Church Ad award issued by Denver's Westword newspaper to Denver Bible Church

RSR Listing Theories In Order of How Bad They Are

Bob and Fred begin brainstorm two ideas: First, another way to illustrate Evolution's Big Squeeze, and second, the listing of theories in order of on how bad they are.

* List of Origins Theories: from bad to worse, that is, from absolutely terrible to utterly absurd:
- Plate tectonics
- Nebular hypothesis
- Big bang
- Abiogenesis.

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* The Great Debate: RSR also airs a minute of last weekend's debate at Denver Bible Church between former BEL producer Will Duffy and CARM founder Matt Slick on whether the future is settled or open. Bob asks Fred a question that Duffy asked, "Does God have the ability to design a new butterfly (say, for His creation of the new heavens and the new earth)?" Fred gives the obvious, biblical answer, Yes, whereas Matt Slick gets this wrong. Wow. The guys also discuss why it is that so many Christians are willing to trust God's decrees, but not God Himself, if He were free. And also, how it is that millions of believers bought into a theology that concludes that God has exhausted His creativity, and that He therefore cannot think a new thought, write a new song, design a new butterfly, or issue a new decree.

* America Recognizes Israel's Capital City, Jerusalem: Tension over the city (named in the Bible about 750 times and in the Koran not once) illustrates the staying power of the prophecy in chapter 12 of the Book of Zechariah. (Consider also that, after an initial period of turmoil, this recognition may help resistant Arabs and Muslims come to terms with the fact that the nation of Israel is real and isn't going away.) 

* Another Idea for RSR's Upcoming "Evolution's Big Squeeze" Show: regarding Evolution's Big Squeeze, yet another way to look at that problem including the New Scientist cover story, "Darwin Was Wrong (about the tree of life)" as...
- DNA sequences have contradicted Darwinists' anatomy-based ancestry claims
- Fossil-based ancestry claims have been contradicted by RNA-based claims
- DNA-based ancestry claims have been contradicted by anatomy-based claims
- Protein-based ancestry claims have been contradicted by fossil-based claims.
- Etc., etc., etc.

2 Discoveries; 2 Announcements; 2 Debates

Today's show is just too much! Real Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams present two big new discoveries, one supporting Dr. Walt Brown's Hydroplate Theory (a WWB discovery: "Workin' for Walt Brown) and the not supporting his theory. The first is the "discovery", actually the corroboration of a phenomenon that Dr. Brown has long explained, that lightning produces radioactive elements (like Carbon 14). The second discovery, a Hawaiian named asteroid, Oumuamua, reddish, ten times longer than wide, and on a hyperbolic path such that it is not orbiting the Sun but just passing through the solar system, challenges the HPT. The only way to reconcile this peculiar object with Dr. Brown's model is, as NASA admits is a possibility, for it to have had an elliptical orbit that was changed to a hyperbolic trajectory by the influence of a large TNO (trans-Neptunian object). The guys also noted that four days after our recent segment on evolutionists constantly having to "rewrite human history", a just published journal paper led to the conclusion that we're going to have to "rewrite human history", all over again! Ha! And finally, this weekend, we're hosting the great debate, or actually, two great debates, on whether the future is settled or open. So tune in this evening at 6:30 p.m. and tomorrow at 1:00 watch our own Will Duffy debate CARM's Matt Slick at Denver Bible Church and live streamed on YouTube!

Science News article: Lightning produces radioactivity discovery, with Walt Brown was here sign imposed on image

Speaking of Thanksgiving: Two bird wings...

Photo of bird wing in amber.* Bird Wings in Amber: For Thanksgiving weekend, Real Science Radio reairs a program with one of our favorite researchers, "Brian Thomas: Two Bird Wings in Amber Means..." Bob Enyart interviews in studio fossil expert Brian Thomas on the two bird wings that have been found in two pieces of amber. Thomas, from the Dallas-based Institute for Creation Research, presents the various ways that these preserved specimens falsify the alleged 100-million-year age of these fossils. Brian is the world's top science author on the many, many discoveries from around the world of fresh fossils, that is, of those that contain original biological material that has survived within dinosaur bones and many other kinds of fossils. Such biological material (like bits of soft tissue still extant in Egyptian mummies) has survived for the thousands of years since so many of those creatures were destroyed in the global flood of Noah's day.

Serpent and Staff, Paradise Lost, & the Big Squeeze

Biblical medical symbol of a serpent and a staff* Just 300 Views from a Third of a Million! Please click on over to help Bob and Fred reach the milestone of 333,333 views on the Bob Enyart Live YouTube channel! [Thanks so much! You guys did it in an hour! -Bob]

* Another Item Added to RSR's Exodus List: Real Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams discuss the new bullet over at which adds to the list of everything that would have no foundation in history if the Exodus were not historical, including the Ten Commandments, the words has no Pharaoh, Goshen, and Alphabet, and the principle that even government leaders must obey the law.

Skull found in China AGAIN rewriting history of human evolution...* Rewriting Human History & The Big Squeeze: guys also give a few examples of Evolution's Big and they chuckle about all the discoveries, major and minor, which lead evolutionists to say, This may cause us to rewrite human evolution! :)

* Show Update -- Ha! They're Rewriting Human History AGAIN: Four days after our Friday program, we learn from the Journal of Physical Anthropology as described in the UK's Independent that, "A skull found in China [40 years ago] could re-write our entire understanding of human evolution." See this also at

* Paradise Lost: Bob and Fred also give accolades to the film Genesis Paradise Lost. Bob especially loved the Day 3 animation of how God may have pulled the plants out of the ground!

* Bob's Sons in School: Finally, the guys describe Bob's sons' reactions to the claims of their science teachers and curriculum authors, from both college and homeschool.

* A Post-show Matter: Technology never goes back in the box. So America's military won't want to be caught off guard regarding increasingly targeted weapons. However, regardless of the development of autonomous killer drones, there it's a greater security matter already at hand...

Enyart's comment at supporting a ban and decrying the dismemberment of unborn children...

RSR Debrief of Geology Field Trip with Walt Brown

* RSR at the Grand Canyon with Walt Brown: Bob Enyart was on assignment with Dr. Walt Brown at the Grand Canyon and other geology sites in the region. Mike Snavely, founder of Mission Imperative, hosted the trip, his annual Southwest Safari (and with his wife Carrie they also host an annual African Safari). Real Science Radio co-host Fred Williams debriefs Bob about the participants, the sites explored, and the lessons learned. See more on the Grand Canyon formation below.

Grand Canyon 2017 with Bob Enyart, Real Science Radio
Grand Canyon, 2017, Bob Enyart on field trip with Walt Brown

* You May Want To Check Out: Click for Bob Enyart's interview of Dr. Walt Brown at, Walt's online chapter, or to buy the book!

* Fred's Assignment Not Quite As Fun: "Bob, you got to go on assignment with Walt Brown to the Grand Canyon and for my assignment I was left behind here to read a 450-page college textbook, Prokaryotic Development. That doesn't seem quite fair", said Fred Williams. Fred was reading this college text to see if the authors present any claimed evidence for the evolution of prokaryotes (single-celled organisms, like bacteria, that lack a nucleus). So, look at what he found (and more on page 114, 116, and 117):

Excerpts from Prokaryotic Development
Real Science Radio gleans gems from this 2000 text. Prokaryotes were always prokaryotes.


Slaughter of the Dissidents Author Slaughtered

* Engraving His Own Tombstone: Like the engraver carving his own tombstone, Dr. Jerry Bergman is writing his own career obituary in the upcoming Vol. 4 of his planned 5-volume series that started with the first volume of The Slaughter of the Dissidents. Real Science Radio's Bob Enyart interviews Dr. Bergman about his own termination after decades teaching successfully at the college and university level.

Bergman on How Darwinism Corrodes Morality Pt. 2

Real Science Radio's Bob Enyart concludes his interview with Dr. Jerry Bergman on his latest book, How Darwinism Corrodes Morality, documenting the evolutionist's destructive effect on society regarding immorality, child killing (abortion) and the euphemistically named "sexual revolution". See also Part 1 and

Tim Mahoney on RSR on the Patterns Collector's Edition

Real Science Radio's Bob Enyart welcomes back Timothy Mahoney, the writer and director of Patterns of Evidence: The Exodus! Tim's documentary film collects and beautifully presents about sixty archaeological finds never before assembled in one place and never before available to the masses. Thus in the past few years defenders of the faith worldwide have gone from admitting that the events in the second book of Moses were among the least well-attested by archaeology to where the Exodus is now powerfully corroborated with an extensive pattern of evidence that spans cities, centuries, and continents! Bob encourages everyone to first watch the film (get it at! Then, you'll want the Collector's Set, the Patterns hardcover book, and for teenagers, kids and grand kids, the Young Explorers Box Set! And don't forget to sign up for occasionally emailed updates to Mahoney's great Thinker Update blog!

* Today's Resource: Get Patterns of Evidence: The Exodus from RSR! Not only do you get to enjoy and learn from (and share) a fabulous film affirming the Bible's historical accuracy, but you simultaneously will support Real Science Radio and help us continue to broadcast, stream, download, and podcast our Scripture and science message to reach many more people with the Gospel of Jesus Christ! So please get Patterns! :)

* Also: Hear also the separate BEL interviews of Tim Mahoney on:
The Making Of the Patterns of Evidence film
- The Patterns Filmmaker on RSR (the film's content) and in 2017:
- The Patterns Collector's Edition (this show)
- RSR's Evidence for the Exodus series!

Nearing the Cure for Muscular Dystrophy After 20-Year Delay

The incredible advance toward a cure for Muscular Dystrophy is just around the corner as researchers can now fix in mice the same mutation that causes Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy in people! Sadly though, this cure has been unnecessarily delayed for decades. Why? Because Darwinism is a science stopper. Evolutionists for many years have argued, in their ignorance and hubris, that DNA is mostly junk. Therefore, when geneticists found the most amazing palindromic repeating pattern of DNA letters in bacteria, rather than try to understand it, they just wrote it off as "Junk DNA". Almost 20 years later, they realized that CRISPR is an amazingly effective and efficient genetic editing tool that holds the greatest promise for curing defects where we have identified the mutations that cause a particular degenerative disease. (Though in the wrong hands, whether malevolent or ignorant, this biotechnology could become a weapon of mass destruction. )

The guys also add a new (and scary) fast-charging supervolcano discovery from Yellowstone to their List of Not So Old Things, discuss their new petrified tree YouTube video (below), the Neanderthal inbreeding consistent with the biblical outline (see and, the biomaterial in dinosaur eggs (ho-hum :), and yet another WWB discovery: water along the equator of Mars!