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Welcome to Real Science Radio: with co-hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams who talk about science to debunk evolution and to show the evidence for the creator God including from biology, geology, astronomy, and physics. (For example, mutations will give you bad legs long before you'd get good wings.) Not only do we get to debate Darwinists and atheists like Lawrence Krauss, AronRa, and Eugenie Scott, and easily take potshots from popular evolutionists like PZ Myers, Phil Plait, and Jerry Coyne, but we also occasionally interview the outstanding scientists who dare to challenge today's accepted creed that nothing created everything.

RSR: Bob and Fred Report on Flood Model Progress

Date: Aug 28, 2015 Length: 28:49
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* Pond Scum and Atheists in the Latest Creation Mag: Real Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams begin with fun science news in the latest edition of creation.com/magazine. For example, as illustrated on the right (by John Bracht, American University, and Robert Hammersmith, Ball State University), CMI reports on the discovery of a non-primitive, not-simple single-celled pond organism Oxytricha trifallax that breaks its DNA into 225,000 segments and then reassembles it before reproducing! In this issue of their great magazine, Creation Ministries International also reports on a survey about belief in aliens conducted by astronomer David Weintraub from Tennessee's Vanderbilt University, of various demographic groups, atheists, muslims, Roman Catholics, mainline denominations, etc. It turns out that the most superstitious of these groups were atheists, with a majority of atheists believing in aliens, whereas the least superstitious were fundamentalist evangelicals such as Southern Baptists (and Fred, and Pastor Bob, and Denver Bible Church).  

* Where Did the Water Come From? Then the guys get to the controversial stuff on flood models. In 2014 the RSR Global Flood video claimed that only the Hydroplate Theory can answer the question: Where did the water come from? Now, in 2015, we have what we are interpreting as an admission from the non-hydroplate theory camps that their flood models have no way of adding to the Earth's surface during the flood significant quantities of additional water. 


* More to Come
: We hope to add info to today's show summary by Monday, so check back soon! (Also, if you would like to join the RSR volunteer team, we are looking for a writer who has a general familiarity with biblical creation to help us expand some of our RSR show summaries. So if this describes you, please click on that link and tell us about yourself! Thanks so much! -Bob Enyart)

Living Waters: Intelligent Design in the Oceans

Date: Aug 21, 2015 Length: 32:26
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* Lad Allen on RSR! Real Science Radio host Bob Enyart interviews Lad Allen of Illustra Media on his latest film, Living Waters:  Intelligent Design in the Oceans of the Earth. Featuring humans Paul Nelson and Richard Sternberg and a multitude of dolphins, sea turtles, sockeye salmon, and humpback whales, this extraordinary production will thrill anyone with a thirst for compelling evidence of design and purpose in the living world. (Image right: Producer Allen on the "set" of Living Waters.) To order a DVD that you can enjoy and share with a friend just visit livingwatersthefilm.com or, to get the film—and at the same time to support our own broadcast—please shop here at RSR at store.kgov.com!

 

Leading Anti-Global Warming Expert on RSR

Date: Aug 14, 2015 Length: 37:59
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Calvin Biesner, Cornwall Alliance, open letter to Pope Francis against global warming* Author of the Letter to the Pope on RSR: Real Science Radio host Bob Enyart interviews Calvin Beisner, the primary author of the widely-read open letter to Pope Francis on global warming junk science. As the founder of the Cornwall Alliance and one of the world's leading experts on the allegation that human beings are harming the global climate, Dr. Beisner is highly qualified to update us here at Real Science Radio on the evidence and the latest developments in the controversy.

Global warming hockey stick* Missing Hockey Stick Data: From the "You Can't Make This Stuff Up" file, the data has gone missing for that infamous “hockey stick” graph, admits lead scientist.
* Warming Ended 18 Years Ago: The UK's National Weather Service, the Met Office, released global weather data in 2012 showing that the slight 16-year warming trend from 1981 to 1997 had then been followed by 16 years of cooling. As Britain's Daily Mail sees it, "Global warming stopped 16 years ago."

* RSR's 2-minute Contribution to the Viral Abortion Body Parts Videos: Prepare yourself, but then, please share...

 

* Video of RSR on the Pepperdine Campus: In Malibu this summer Bob Enyart warned Pepperdine University students about theistic evolution. That presentation is now on YouTube and available for viewing right here:

 

* More Arctic Ice and anti-IPCC IPCC Scientists: The Earth, an ice maker extraordinare, made a half-a-million square miles of Arctic ice more in 2013 than compared to previous summer. And check out these IPCC and other UN scientists blasting the UN's IPCC.

* Even more Arctic Ice: Now there's even way more Arctic ice in 2014 which falsifies Al Gore's claim that by this summer the North Pole would be ice free.
* Sees 52 Explanations for Warming Pause: The global warming industry explains the 18-year pause in more ways than there are to skin a cat!
* Head of UN's IPCC Resigns in Scandal: Resigning in 2015 amidst a sexual harassment scandal, rather than having brought a cool scientific mind to the job, the outgoing head propagandist of the UN's International Panel on Climate Change, zealot Rajendra Pachauri, admits that to him fighting climate change is a religion.
* Hysterical Warming List: now up to 883 results (many contradictory, like warming making fish bigger, and smaller).  

 

Real Science's climate expert Steven Goddard shows gvt data tampering

* NOAA Altering U.S. Temperature Data: From the "You Can't Make This Stuff Up" file, Real Science's climate expert Steven Goddard documented that the U.S. government has been fudging with stubborn thermometer readings. The extensive U.S. historical temperature collection throughout the 1900s is the envy of much of the world. Yet because it shows that the U.S. has not warmed but cooled since the 1930s, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA, pronounced Noah :) has been systematically altering the data, to show an increase instead of a decrease. Note the bouncing circles in the chart on the right. They show a decrease when using actual thermometer readings; they show an increase after "adjusted" to make the data consistent with the global warming scare.

* Michael Fumento in the Post -- Global Warming Proof Evaporating: Michael's otherwise great iconoclastic article blunders slightly by furthering the fully-refuted myth that leaders in the day of Columbus (or any day), believed that the Earth was flat. Check out the Cornell history professor's article on the myth of belief that the church (or any school or any leaders) ever taught a flat earth, at rsr.org/flat-earth. Of course today the actual Flat Earth Society is going strong (bizarre, no?), and its president is an old-earth evolutionist. :)  

SUVs Can't Be the Cause for Global Warming on Mars Either...* Ice Melting on Mars: NASA documents the melting of polar ice on Mars, yet there are only two :) SUVs there. So the slight change in global temperatures, here and there, just might have something to do with the Sun. As National Geographic reports results from NASA's Mars missions, at its south pole, for three summers in a row Mars' polar ice cap has been melting. This significant, planet-wide, laboratory-like, evidence indicates that here on Earth, where we're 48 million miles closer to Sun, that global-warming scientists are wrong to ignore the Sun in their assigning blame for melting ice.

* Global Warming Began 135 Years Ago: Really. That's what researchers are now saying. (Perhaps that's an unintented side-effect of their lowering, as described above, temperature data from the early 1900s.) Consider also though that the Coast Guard said that ice has frozen earlier in the Great Lakes in 2014 than at any year in more than half a century.

* From the RThe Cooling, chapter 7: The Politics of Global Cooling :)SR Program Global Cooling -- The Book: To provide historical perspective regarding the unauthorized release of scientists' embarassing emails, just click on that link to hear Bob Enyart and Doug McBurney discuss The Cooling by atheist author (and editor of Michael Shermer's Skeptic Magazine) Lowell Ponte, on global cooling. That's just too ironic. Also discussed is the anti-climactic (no sic) release of anti-global warming emails from the world's leading pro-global warming alarmist scientists. Bob andThe Cooling by Lowell PonteDoug crack up over the unauthorized release of these internal emails between Europe's top global warming the-end-is-near doomsday prophet scientists. Check this out also in Britain's The Guardian newspaper: "Pretending the climate email leak isn't a crisis won't make it go away."

The Cooling jacket

* 650 Climate Experts Dispute Global Warming:The physicist fired by Al Gore adds name to Senate list of 650 anti-alarmists. Really.

* 1,000 Scientists Doubt Global Warming Claims: Check out this great list over at ClimateDepot.com!

* 9,000 Ph.D.s Sign Anti-Global Warming Petition: WorldNetDaily's Bob Unruh reports that "9,000 Ph.D.s in fields such as atmospheric science, climatology, Earth science, environment and dozens of other specialties - have signed a petition rejecting 'global warming'".

* 31,000 Scientists Sign Anti-Global Warming Petition: When they say consensus, consensus, doubt the consensus. Now that the warming ended 19 years ago, the report by BEL friend, WorldNetDaily's Bob Unruh, is especially interesting, that "More than 31,000 scientists across the U.S. ... have signed a petition rejecting 'global warming'". Many of those who reject God end up as dirt worshipers and become doomsayer prophets warning that "The End is Near," in hopes of getting others to worship the creation rather than the Creator. One of the signatories, Ph.D. in atmospheric science who has specialized in remote sensing research for the U.S. government for 30 years is a friend of Real Science Radio, Dr. Ed Holroyd. See update: The Global Warming Denier Deniers.

The Cooling by Lowell Ponte* Popular False Predictions: Carl Sagan at rsr.org/gulf-war-fires; Isaac Asimov at rsr.org/ nuclear-winterGlobal warming doomsayer Paul Ehrlich at rsr.org/overpopulation with his predicted U.S. starvation deaths of 65 million in the 1980s; and RSR.org/stephen-hawking-to-the-moon to avoid global warming; and see also the totally unrelated yet important political report at ProlifeProfiles.com /jeb-bush!

* Popular Trustworthy Prediction: God provided the foundation of physics for the world's climate and gave a prophecy about global climate in the book of Genesis. "While the earth remains, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, winter and summer, and day and night shall not cease." - Genesis 8:22

* Global Warming Hypocrites: In the Greenpeace carbon scandal, leading exec commutes by chartered jet. And airline exec Richard Brandson emits 7M tons of carbon! Then Al Gore's carbon footprint includes his multiple mansions and solar-paneled 100-foot houseboat and $500 million dollar payday from oil money!

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* See a Sneak Preview Tonight in Denver: At the Rocky Mountain Creation Fellowship first hear Dr. Anthony Harper speak on Evolution's Influence on Psychology and then we'll see a sneak preview of the powerful film, A Matter of Faith! So you are cordially invited to attend this screening at 7:00 p.m. on Friday, August 14th, at the Calvary Apostolic Church, 5900 E. Yale Ave in Denver. See also Dr. Harper's Intermountain Christian News at imcnews.org.

David Rives: Creation in the 21st Century on RSR

Date: Aug 7, 2015 Length: 28:49
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* One of the World's Most Influential Creationists: With his enormous weekly television audience, David Rives, host of the Creation in the 21st Century on the Trinity Broadcasting Network, is quickly becoming one of the most influential creationists in the world! Bob Enyart is honored to welcome David to the RSR studio. You can watch Rives (for Broncos' fans, that's pronounced Reeves) program every Wednesday at noon Eastern Time. David conducts his own historical and scientific research, has been featured on the History Channel in relation to his work on Dead Sea Scrolls projects, interviews many of the world's most effective creationists, and has appeared on media outlets around the world.

* David Rives' Field Work: Hundreds of hours working with observatory class telescopes and eleven trips to the Holy Land provide the backdrop for David's broadcast to millions on TBN with his signature line: "The Heavens Declare the Glory of God." From a biblical prospective he explores the beauty and sophistication of creation while his successful songwriting and recording career enables David to add a musical dimension to his outreach. Around the world people hear his message through documentaries, music, television programs, interviews, photography, books, and lectures. Perhaps most significantly, David launched the groundbreaking Genesis Science Network., available on Roku and streaming on phones, pads, notebooks, and PCs! See why Bob loves this 24/7 presentation of creation science material...

 

* RSR's 2-minute Contribution to the Viral Abortion Body Parts Videos: Prepare yourself, but then, please share...

 

* Video of RSR on the Pepperdine Campus: In Malibu this summer Bob Enyart warned Pepperdine University students about theistic evolution. That presentation is now on YouTube and available for viewing right here:

 

* Two of RSR's Favorite Creationists with David Rives: See David interview Mike Snavely on the global flood and the hydroplate theory (episode just re-aired on August 3, 2015) and Dr. Jonathan Safarti on scientific evidence for the global flood!

Eric Hovind on Real Science Radio

Date: Jul 31, 2015 Length: 32:47
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Bob Enyart interviews Eric Hovind of Creation Today about his effective rebuttal of the theory of evolution and the misinformation that leads many people to accept an old earth and to reject God. Bob and Eric discuss:
- Eric's Genesis 3D film's trailers and featurettes (see one below)
- Crowd funding for Genesis 3D
- the eight Creation Minute videos
- the Hovind family's role in the creation movement
- and the airing in the 1990s of one of their entire five-hour video series in 80 cities from Honolulu to Orlando on Bob Enyart Live.

* Video of RSR on the Pepperdine Campus: The presentation in Malibu that Bob and Eric disccused from this summer warning Pepperdine University students about theistic evolution is now on YouTube and available for viewing right here:

 

RSR's List of Solar System Formation Problems 2

Date: Jul 24, 2015 Length: 39:29
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* Conclusion of this RSR List Show: Hear part 1 at rsr.org/solar-system.

* March 2015 IAU Image Typical of Pluto Expectations: (Below, see our list of solar system formation problems.) Just a few months ago, the International Astronomical Union used an image of Pluto (right) that represents the expectations of secular astronomers depicting a heavily cratered body grimy from sweeping up billions of years of space dust. Again though, the predictions of old-earth astronomy failed. Likewise, from its physics to its major predictions, the entire theory of solar system formation, the nebular hypothesis, has failed. Real Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams then back up to get the big picture by quoting NASA's exoplanet database manager Caltech astronomer Mike Brown who said: “Before we ever discovered any [planets outside the solar system] we thought we understood the formation of planetary systems pretty deeply… It was a really beautiful theory. And, clearly, thoroughly wrong." Exoplanets, with their masses, sizes, composition and orbital characteristics differ from what had been predicted for decades by the standard model of solar system formation, including with their retrograde orbits, highly inclined orbits and hot jupiters, effectively falsifying that model.

* July 2015 What Pluto Actually Looks Like: The actual photos of Pluto from NASA's New Horizons mission will help make it obvious to thousands more people that the nebular hypothesis theory of origins is not helpful in understanding our solar system (or any other solar system for that matter). On today's program, Bob and Fred conclude RSR's List of Problems with Solar System Formation and they air an audio clip from a leading planetary scientist on the Passport to Pluto Science Channel update on NASA's mission acknowledging that even close to home, the predictions of mainstream (secular) astronomy mostly fail, and that's for planets nearest to home, in our very own solar system system. Taken together, the impressive scientific discoveries that completely falsify the nebular hypothesis of solar system formation include these:

- exoplanets contradicting the predictions of the theory
- that our Sun is missing nearly 100% of its predicted spin 
- that our Sun's rotation is seven degrees off the ecliptic
- the missing predicted uniform distribution pattern of solar system isotopes
- the missing expected uniform distribution of Earth's radioactivity
- the contrary-to-expectations fine tuning of the solar system
- the many contrary-to-expectations transient events in the solar system
- that proponents try to prop up the theory by claiming ubiquitous planetary catastrophism
planetary and star formation problems have seemingly intractable physics problems (consider the Philae landing)
- contrary to an Oort or Kuiper origin, comets contain earth-like minerals and rounded boulders    
- short-period comets still exist even though they have lifespans of only thousands of years
- the 1,346 trans-Neptunian objects with known orbits reach perihelion at the ecliptic
- that Mercury has greater density than can be accounted for by evolutionary accretion 
- that Uranus rotates perpendicularly and Venus rotates backwards.
So the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, the BBC, Nova, Bill NyeLawrence Krauss, etc., wrongly built public confidence in the secular origins nebular hypothesis story. The longstanding claims of solar system formation were invented ad hoc to account for the particulars of our own solar system. Now that thousands of exoplanets are being discovered, the story telling will simply become, as with epicycles and levels of Darwinian selection, shall we say, more complex.

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RSR's List of Problems with Solar System Formation

Date: Jul 17, 2015 Length: 33:04
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* March 2015 IAU Image Typical of Pluto Expectations: (Below, see our list of solar system formation problems.) Just a few months ago, the International Astronomical Union used an image of Pluto (right) that represents the expectations of secular astronomers depicting a heavily cratered body grimy from sweeping up billions of years of space dust. Again though, the predictions of old-earth astronomy failed. Likewise, from its physics to its major predictions, the entire theory of solar system formation, the nebular hypothesis, has failed. Real Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams then back up to get the big picture by quoting NASA's exoplanet database manager Caltech astronomer Mike Brown who said: “Before we ever discovered any [planets outside the solar system] we thought we understood the formation of planetary systems pretty deeply… It was a really beautiful theory. And, clearly, thoroughly wrong." Exoplanets, with their masses, sizes, composition and orbital characteristics differ from what had been predicted for decades by the standard model of solar system formation, including with their retrograde orbits, highly inclined orbits and hot jupiters, effectively falsifying that model.

* July 2015 What Pluto Actually Looks Like: The actual photos of Pluto from NASA's New Horizons mission will help make it obvious to thousands more people that the nebular hypothesis theory of origins is not helpful in understanding our solar system (or any other solar system for that matter). On today's program, Bob and Fred air an audio clip from a leading planetary scientist on the Passport to Pluto Science Channel update on NASA's mission acknowledging that even close to home, the predictions of mainstream (secular) astronomy mostly fail, and that's for planets nearest to home, in our very own solar system system. Taken together, the impressive scientific discoveries that completely falsify the nebular hypothesis of solar system formation include these:

- exoplanets contradicting the predictions of the theory
- that our Sun is missing nearly 100% of its predicted spin 
- that our Sun's rotation is seven degrees off the ecliptic
- the missing predicted uniform distribution pattern of solar system isotopes
- the missing expected uniform distribution of Earth's radioactivity
- the contrary-to-expectations fine tuning of the solar system
- the many contrary-to-expectations transient events in the solar system
- that proponents try to prop up the theory by claiming ubiquitous planetary catastrophism
planetary and star formation problems have seemingly intractable physics problems (consider the Philae landing)
- contrary to an Oort or Kuiper origin, comets contain earth-like minerals and rounded boulders    
- short-period comets still exist even though they have lifespans of only thousands of years
- the 1,346 trans-Neptunian objects with known orbits reach perihelion at the ecliptic
- that Mercury has greater density than can be accounted for by evolutionary accretion 
- that Uranus rotates perpendicularly and Venus rotates backwards.
So the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, the BBC, Nova, Bill NyeLawrence Krauss, etc., wrongly built public confidence in the secular origins nebular hypothesis story. The longstanding claims of solar system formation were invented ad hoc to account for the particulars of our own solar system. Now that thousands of exoplanets are being discovered, the story telling will simply become, as with epicycles and levels of Darwinian selection, shall we say, more complex.

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Race on Real Science Radio

Date: Jul 10, 2015 Length: 35:58
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* Early Earth Educators: RSR has been eager to discuss the origin of mankind with Brian and Virginia Norman, the educators with degrees in geology and theology who formed the Early Earth Educators creation outreached. Bob and the Normans discuss genetics and the Bible's teaching that all nations have descended from one blood in contrast with the racism inherent in Charles Darwin's worldview. With race-based turmoil fomenting in America, and after Covenant Media's Matt and Mercy Hasselblad described the overt Hinduism-based racism in India's cities and then recommended EEE, RSR's producer Larry Wolfe arranged this interview with the Normans. Brian and Viriginia also discuss rsr.org/canaanrsr.org/flood, and Brian's novel "Early Earth Book 2" which Bob Enyart's son Michael is enjoying reading right now.

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* Welcome to Real Science Radio: Hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams discuss science to debunk evolution and to show the evidence for our creator God including from biology, geology, astronomy, and physics. (For example, mutations will give you bad legs long before you'd get good wings.) Not only do we get to debate Darwinists and atheists like Lawrence Krauss, AronRa, and Eugenie Scott, and easily take potshots from popular evolutionists like PZ Myers, Phil Plait, and Jerry Coyne, but we also occasionally interview the outstanding scientists who dare to challenge today's accepted creed that nothing created everything.

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NASA Rocket Scientist on Real Science Radio

Date: Jul 3, 2015 Length: 55:12
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* A Science Hero's Work Corroborates the Young Earth: Real Science Radio's Bob Enyart and Fred Williams interview the scientist, Henry Richter, who led the team building America's first satellite Explorer 1. Dr. Richter (on left in this 1957 photo with JPL's George Ludwig) also held leadership roles in the launch of a number of the spacecraft that landed on the Moon, and even after he himself left the space program, his team completed the work on the scientific instrumentation for NASA's Mariner spacecraft which enabled it to explore Mercury, Venus and Mars! Dr. Richter earned a place in the history of scientific advancement. He is a biblical creationist and his efforts helped bring about the early and important discovery of the Van Allen radiation belt; he helped relieve the fear of too much dust on the moon (see below); and his work helped provide the benchmark from which NASA has learned that Mercury's magnetic field is rapidly decreasing in strength (see just below). Pleasing young-earthers and confounding old-earth planetary scientists, Mercury's magnetic field has decayed in strength eight percent from 1974 to 2011, not unlike Earth's field, which has lost ten percent of it's energy over just the previous 150 years! Dr. Richter also made a brief comment regarding the bizarre moon landing hoax claim, which has been unecessarily but fully refuted here (see below).

* Thank you David Coppedge and Rob Carter: Real Science Radio thanks former JPL systems lead, David Coppedge, for arranging this historic interview for RSR. And we thank CMI's biologist Dr. Robert Carter for his great Henry Richter interview in the current issue of Creation magazine.

* Planet Mercury Leaves NASA Jaw-Dropping Shocked: Mercury's density is far beyond what evolutionary accretion could produce. From its pull on NASA's 1974 Mariner space probe, we learned of Mercury's great density, unachievable by the now falsified nebular hypothesis. So as they do with most of the planets, Big Bang proponents including theoretical physicists (with the emphasis on the theoretical, as in the RSR interview with Lawrence Krauss), appeal to catastrophism, whereby first Mercury formed in the traditional way claimed through the condensing swirling nebula (which Isaac Newton evaluated as impossible via gravity), but then a planet-level collision ejected all the light matter off of Mercury and left just the heavy stuff. Really.

* Magnetism
: The claim that Mercury is four billion years old led BB proponents to predict that it would be a dead (so to speak), inert rock having no magnetic field. But in 1974, by the scientific leadership of American hero and scientist Dr. Henry Richter, NASA's Mariner 10 spacecraft measured Mercury's magnetic field and provided hard data contradicting that fundamental evolutionary assumption. Then in 2008, NASA's Messenger craft measured the field's strength as significantly decreased, in only those few decades, which again contradicted their theory. Then in 2011, Messenger orbited the planet, and confirmed a startling (to old-earthers) 8% decrease since 1974. So, as with the Earth's rapidly decaying magnetic field, if Mercury were billions of years old, planet-wide features like it's magnetism would have reached stasis and not demonstrate such rapid change. See rsr.org/mercury for more!

* Weakening Magnetic Field and Carbon-14 Dating: As reported on rsr.org/14c, the University of Maryland geophysicist Daniel Lathrop stated that, "over the last 150 years or so, the Earth’s magnetic field has declined in strength about ten percent..." And as Dr. Richter stated on today's program, a stronger magnetic field thousands of years ago would result in production of fewer 14c atoms, which would in turn result in older-than-actual 14c dates, and that analysis from, again, the NASA scientist who launched America's first satellite, who oversaw development of the scientific equipment used on the first lunar missions, and who played an important role in the early discovery of the Van Allen radiation belt.

For today's show RSR recommends
What You Aren't Being Told
 About Astronomy:
Our Created Solar System!

* Moon Dust Argument: See Dr. Walt Brown's brief summary and then his careful analysis of how much dust should be on a four-billion year old  moon. (A lot more than is there.) And see Terry Hurlbut's great article, The moon-dust argument might be valid after all. Dr. Brown's calculations are based on actual data and seriously challenges Answers in Genesis long-standing warning that creationists should not use the moon dust argument. On February 13, 2014, Ken Ham blogged about his great debate with Bill Nye  and listed moon dust among "outdated or discredited" arguments. For years, Real Science Radio has been calling for AiG and other young-earth ministries (who have our love and respect) to either update their decades-old argument to show the public, if they can, where Dr. Brown's assembled data and mathematical calculations are in error, or they should remove moon dust from their "do not use" list. Or, preferably, they themselves should resume using this powerful argument for a young moon!

2015 AiG Update: In July we noticed that AiG has removed moon dust from their Arguments to Avoid article. As we've long said, we respect and love Ken Ham, all of AiG, their fabulous Creation Museum, and that we're praying for God's blessing on their enormously important Ark Encounter! So while we could call them and ask, like them (and like everyone), we're all so busy! :) So until we hear otherwise, we'll leave it at this: We're hoping that removing moon dust from AiG's Arguments to Avoid list was intentional.

* First an Atheist Caller Talks to NASA's Dr. Gold: Welcome to a special edition of Real Science Radio. An atheist caller, Forrest from Hawaii, had previously claimed that he had spoken to a NASA scientist Dr. Thomas Gold, who had personally told him that NASA had no concern about too much dust on the moon. Forrest wanted to use this information to discredit Bob Enyart's account of NASA designing the Lunar Module with large "feet" to prevent it from sinking into dust on the moon.

Lunar Lander with pod feet* Secondly Retired Engineer Bob Ball Reports His Research & Personal Recollection: Long-time friend of BEL and retired computer engineer Bob Ball from Indiana confirmed through his own research and independent recollection, NASA's serious, though unwarranted, concern in the 1960s that the moon would hold a tremendous amount of dust (because they believed it would have been collecting dust for billions of years, an age, and therefore, a concern, that young-earth creationists would dispute). Ball further recounted that this concern was promoted by NASA's own Dr. Thomas Gold himself, the very man our caller Forrest says that he had spoken to, who allegedly claimed that NASA had no such concern, and especially not when they designed the Lunar Lander.

* Atheist Forrest Calls Back: Forrest states that he did not accept Bob Ball's report that Dr. Thomas Gold was the very astronomer who most promoted the unnecessary concern over moon dust.

* Next Listener Darrell Birkey Quotes NASA: Birkey, of Goshen, Indiana called in to quote from NASA's own website, which states, "astronomer Thomas Gold asserted, however, that the apparently smooth areas on the moon were likely to be covered with a layer of fine dust several meters thick, raising the prospect that the lunar module might sink out of sight..."

So NASA's own historical account (it's own revisionist footnote notwithstanding) agrees with what Bob Enyart surmised on the air, refuting Forrest's first specific criticism of BEL. For NASA itself states, "Spacecraft engineers at Houston's Manned Spacecraft Center, meanwhile, in spite of their real need for this information [how much dust] in designing the lunar landing module, had to go ahead without it [without that data]." That is, NASA was designing the Lunar Module prior to its Ranger and Surveyor missions discovering that the depth of dust on the moon was negligible. So NASA gave the lunar lander large "feet" because they were pressed for time (to fulfill John Kennedy's dream of reaching the moon by the end of the decade) and so they designed the landing features so as to prevent the craft from sinking in dust.

* NASA's Burke & Richter Discuss Moon Dust: The Smithsonian Channel and Real Science Radio have aired interviews with leading NASA scientists documenting the moon dust concern.  Henry Richer corrected BEL's mistaken atheist caller (see above) who had been insisting that NASA never feared that the moon might be covered with meters of dust. However, Dr.Richter recalled for RSR the invalid but great concern, arising out of the old-earth worldview, that the Lunar Lander might sink out of site into dust that would have accumulated on the surface of the moon over its alleged billions of years. Additionally, this 3-minute audio excerpt, courtesy of the Smithsonian Channel's Space Voyages: Into the Unknown, presents another NASA scientist, James Burke, explaining that the Surveyor Mission proved that a vehicle could land on the Moon without sinking deep into the dust that evolutionary scientists feared may have been there. Dr. Burke was project manager for the Ranger missions (which preceded Surveyor), and Roger Launius, also heard on this audio clip, is the curator for the Smithsonian's National Air and Space Museum. Determining how much dust had accumulated on the lunar surface was one of the primary goals of the Surveyor program which eventually landed seven robotic craft on the moon. As Burke said, "If Surveyor had sunk in out of sight, then of course there would have been a different course of events." For, contrary to biblical creationism, the evolutionary old-earth mindset had led NASA to fear that the moon may be covered in dust even perhaps dozens of feet deep. See more at rsr.org/nasa-feared-deep-moon-dust.

* RSR Answers Specific Moon Landing Hoax Claims (collected from the Conspiracy Theory program and elsewhere)
- Can't see stars in various photos: The bright foreground and dark background composition of such photos results in a photographic effect whereby dimmer objects, such as stars in the sky, do not appear.
- Craters on moon may actually be from Area 51: "Conspiracy Theory" aired prior to Google Earth displaying Area 51. Conspiracy theorists have not since not linked to, nor otherwise documented there, the alleged terrestrial moon landscapes.
- No engine noise: On Star Trek TV shows, there is a quiet hum from the engines during typical scenes that take place on the ship. However, the audio from the Lunar Lander is very quiet and an astronaut even mentioned how quiet it was. Sound waves don't propagate in space, so while on earth engine noise will bounce back off the air surrounding a car on the highway, that effect doesn't exist in space. The only engine noise would have been transferred through the craft's structure, which could certainly be audible, but NASA explains that the all important insulation on the craft would significantly dampen that sound.
- No crater in the dust from Lunar Module landings: Photos and videos don't show landing craters below modules, even though NASA artwork previously predicted such craters would result from blown away dust. Of course, the depth of any expected crater would originally be influenced by NASA's fear of deep dust. (See above and NASA feared deep dust on the moon.)
- Missing Lunar Module in photo: A photograph exists of a distinctive moonscape without the lunar module, and then another with the same moonscape that includes the lunar module in the photo. When the module blasts off, it leaves its base, so the first photo seems to have been taken prior to the astronauts landing on the moon. The answer lies in the hills of the moonscape being very far away and because there is no atmosphere on the moon, the image has great clarity giving the impression that the hills are nearby. Then, when the camera is moved just a hundred yards or so to one side and snaps a photo in the same direction, the Lander is no longer in the frame, but the background is hardly changed, because of its distance. Careful examination of the famous photos does show the parallax however. A YouTube video has a great example and actual photos showing that parallax.
- No exhaust plume on leaving moon: The Conspiracy Theory "documentary" claims that there was no exhaust and that the Lunar Module appears to have been lifted off its base by a cable. However the A11-FSOTM documentary shows the blast off with debris flying and the flag being thrown.

RSR: June is Whale Month Pt. 4

Date: Jun 26, 2015 Length: 28:49
Download: Dialup / Broadband Stream: Dialup / Broadband Comment: at TheologyOnline

* Homosexual Marriage Update: DBC Announcement: Dear loved ones, with the horrific supreme court ruling attempting to force homosexual marriage on the entire country (the way they forced child killing on the country with Roe v. Wade), we will have an emergency showing on Sunday morning at 9:30 a.m. at Denver Bible Church of Ray Comfort's film Audacity. Part documentary, part movie, Audacity will teach millions what the Bible actually says about homosexuality. And for the worship service, which begins at 10:50 a.m., the sermon of course, and tragically, will be on how to protect our families from the wickedness flooding our land. And if you can, please publish this notice on your social media.

Denver Bible Church rejects the court’s immoral and perverse opinion on homosexual marriage. The creator Jesus Christ said that God made us “male and female at the beginning of creation” and God instituted marriage between a man and a woman. All governing officials at every level of government should reject and ignore any and every attempt, whether legislative, by popular vote, or judicial, to redefine marriage. Likewise, all governing officials should reject Roe v. Wade and any and all other attempts to repeal God’s enduring command, Thou shall not murder.

Grieving, yes, but with ultimate victory in Jesus Christ!

- Pastor Bob Enyart and the Elders of
Denver Bible Church
4085 Independence Court 
Wheat Ridge, CO 80033

We Just Want To Be Left Alone: Right. "In the public square, Christianity and homosexuality are mutually exclusive. One or the other will be in the closet", said Bob Enyart. A homosexual replies: "No really, we just want to be left alone. Oh yeah, and you better bake us a cake. Or else. Or a pizza pie. And cookies. And send us flowers. And you better give me a haircut while I'm waiting. And take some photos. Or else. And forget your heterosexual student clubs and dating services, and as for your teachings on morality, we've decided to ban them. Oh yeah, and did we tell you? You're going to print us some t-shirts and then host our wedding! Yup. Even on your church property. And we want a parade, and you're going to provide security too." See more. Unfortunately.


Now, for the conclusion of Whale Month on RSR

* The Canonical Whale Evolution Story Falling Apart: Real Science Radio host Bob Enyart concludes this comprehensive series of interviews with filmmaker Carl Werner whose videotaped interviews with the discoverers of the "walking whales" have caused museums around the world to change their fossil exhibits. Dr. Werner reports on one of the most fascinating chapters in the history of science. For the imagined whale-like features of creatures like Pakicetus, Ambulocetus, and Rodhocetus, one by one, are being falsified and their "whale features" are being withdrawn by "whale evolution experts" and even by the discoverers themselves, the teacher Philip Gingerich and his former student Hans Thewissen.

* RSR's List of Whale Problems: For the actual (growing) list, see below.

* Sending Werner's Work to the Experts: RSR would like to mail a copy of Dr. Werner's Evolution book and the companion video to Dr. Gingerich and Dr. Thewissen (and perhaps to the other whale experts referenced therein). If you would like to underwrite that task for $100 per expert (to pay for the materials, shipping, our researcher's time, follow-up, etc.), please call 800-8Enyart or consider donating online! Thank you!    

* Filmmaker's Bombshell Report -- Forged Whale Fossils: Dr. Werner interviewed the scientists who supplied the primary whale evolution "fossils" to the world's leading museums including the Smithsonian, Carnegie, American Museum of Natural History, NHM of London, NMNS of Tokyo, Melbourne Museum, Canadian Museum of Nature, and the NHM of Paris. Gingerich now admits that Rodhocetus had no flippers and no fluked tail (and certainly no blowhole), so what millions of evolutionists believe regarding whale fossils is based on fabricated, and fully falsified, misinformation. Hear it, read the full press release, and see it for yourself below (rather than accepting the widespread Darwinist misinformation like about Rodhocetus from princeton.edu). 


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Today’s Resource: You'll just love Carl Werner's  Evolution: The Grand Experiment DVD and his Living Fossils DVD! Want something else? Just browse the Science Department in the KGOV store for the best of the best in creation books, debates, and videos, or just call us at 1-800-8Enyart (836-9278).

 
* Richard Dawkins Whale Tales: Click to Watch Richard Dawkins spout off on whale intermediates 


* RSR's List of Whale Evolution Problems: In the tradition of the beloved RSR List Shows, we hope the following information will be helpful to you. Throughout the month of June, we will be adding items to this list and Bob Enyart asks you to help us turn this into a comprehensive and succinct resource, so please don't hesitate to email Bob@rsr.org your suggestions for what should be included here:
- Ten thousand paleontologists over 150 years have failed to discover whale transitions 
- Two guys in a few decades discovered Ambulocetus, RodhocetusPakicetusSinonyx and more  (see below)
- The teacher Dr. Philip Gingerich became famous for discovering Rodhocetus, Pakicetus, and other whale transitions
- The student Dr. Hans Thewissen became famous for discovering Ambulocetus
- Without limb or tail bones to justify his imagination, Gingerich drew flippers and a fluked tail onto Rodhocetus
- Gingerich admits on film to Dr. Carl Werner that additional fossils show Rodhocetus had four legs
- Gingerich admits that there is no evidence that Rodhocetus, a good runner, had a fluked tail
- Major museums begin to pull the famed Rodhocetus from their whale evolution displays
- Werner-aware articles like at Wikipedia either omit Rodhocetus or downgrade it to just one of the Protocetids
- Smaller-staffed sites like Francis Collins's BioLogos continue to showcase the completely misconstrued Rodhocetus
- Gingerich reconstructed a Pakicetus skull from fragments but now admits there was no indication of a blowhole
- After more bones were excavated, Pakicetus became a land animal but still kept its place as a whale transitional form
- Listing nine whale features, Thewissen, et alconclude in Nature, "Pakicetids display none of these [whale] features"
- Since Gingerich and Thewissen, whales are now widely claimed to be the best fossil evidence for Darwinian evolution
- Real Science Radio often hears evolutionists use Rodhocetus and Pakicetus as evidence for evolution, as did AronRa
- Berkeley's Whale Evolution article says: "These first whales, such as Pakicetus, were typical land animals."
- Leading evolutionists focusing on teeth, ear bones, ankles, mouth, or genes thus argue for a different land ancestor
- Since 1998, leading institutions argue whether whales evolved from animals like hyenas, cats, deer, wolves, or hippos
- Darwin focused on the wide-open mouth and predator behavior to claim that whales evolved from bears
- Dr. Gingerich explains that what "is similar between hoofed hyenas and the archaic whales are the teeth."
- Tokyo Institute of Sciences focused on genome similarity and concludes that whales evolved from a hippo-like species
- The whale evolution saga pits geneticists against anatomists against paleontologists
- Neo-Darwinism claims that evolution happens in the genes, yet unlike whales, hippos have plant-eating teeth
- Geneticist claims whales evolved from hippos but paleontologists say hippos evolved tens of millions of years too late
- The water-deposited geologic column's flood sorted fossils contain no hippo bones lower than whale bones
- If today's neo-Darwinian paradigm were true, then hippo gene similarity leaves zero fossil evidence for whale evolution
- Gingerich's "problem" with hippos is that "they are all plant eaters; [but] whales today are all carvinovres."
- Science: "the teeth of... mesonychids, such resemblance is sometimes overstated and... represents ... convergence"
- Though whales are among the "best" fossil evidence for evolution, experts disagree even on their land ancestor
- Thewissen reconstructed Ambulocetus' skull with a blowhole where no skull fragments existed to justify it
- The world's leading museums display a full Ambulocetus skull as though it had been found, including with a blowhole
- Smithsonian and other Darwinist artists added tiny ears reminiscent of whales without fossil evidence to support them
- Whale eyes typically line up with the upper teeth so Gingerich doubts Ambulocetus because its eyes are atop its head
- Thewissen admits in Werner's film that a major claim for Ambulocetus, a "sigmoid process" ear bone, is questionable 
- Whale evolution believer and expert Dr. Berta nonetheless refers to Thewissen's "purported whale characters"
- The "sigmoid process" is "questionable" and only "purported" because it doesn't look like that diagnostic whale trait
- The other "purported" Ambulocetus "whale" features are consistent with land animals but not with whale features
- Gingerich found Rodhocetus, Pakicetus, Synonyx and also Maiacetus ("mother whale") and Artiocetus!
- So the dynamic duo found Rodhocetus, Ambulocetus, Pakicetus, SynonyxMaiacetus, Artiocetus, and  __________?
- The whale evolution cottage industry is run like a family business with proprietors who cannot be trusted
- (Feel free to send suggestions for additions to this RSR List to Bob@rsr.org)

While maintaining his evolutionary political correctness, Wayne Carley, the president of the Nat'l Association of Biology Teachers nonetheless observed, "The very day I viewed the segment “Great Transformations," wherein P. D. Gingerich firmly stated that whales evolved from wolf-like carnivores, he and several colleagues published a paper in Science (293: 2239) showing that, in fact, whales evolved from ancestral artiodactyls." P.C. aside though, 100,000 U.S. professors think intelligent design is a significant scientific alternative to Darwinism, half-a-million U.S. medical doctors say that God brought about humans, and 30,000 U.S. public high school biology teachers do not endorse Darwinism in class.

Credit: Just as we credit RSR's List of Fresh Fossils and our rsr.org/dinosaur-soft-tissue#supplement to Brian Thomas over at the Institute for Creation Research, so too we credit Dr. Carl Werner for his startling exposé of the fraudulent whale transitional fossils that enabled us to produce this latest RSR List. Thank you Brian and thank you Carl!" - Bob Enyart & Fred Williams

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