Real Science Radio

Real Science Radio

Welcome to Real Science Radio: with co-hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams who talk about science to debunk evolution and to show the evidence for the creator God including from biology, geology, astronomy, and physics. (For example, mutations will give you bad legs long before you'd get good wings.) Not only do we get to debate Darwinists and atheists like Lawrence Krauss, AronRa, and Eugenie Scott, and easily take potshots from popular evolutionists like PZ Myers, Phil Plait, and Jerry Coyne, but we also occasionally interview the outstanding scientists who dare to challenge today's accepted creed that nothing created everything.

Scientist from "Is Genesis History?" film on RSR

Is Genesis History? discs* Genesis Is History: Real Science Radio host Bob Enyart interviews geneticist Dr. Rob Carter about his role in the Fathom Event movie, "Is Genesis History?" that just screened in theaters nationwide. The DVD & Blu-ray begins shipping April 11th, God willing! Bob and some brand new friends, RSR listeners, were among the audiences that gathered in nearly 700 theaters to enjoy "Genesis". On today's program, Rob Carter unravels the DNA molecule revealing the necessary top-down design of genetic information showing why a genome could not have originated one small undirected step at a time, but had to be planned from the outset.

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* About Dr. Carter: With Creation Ministries International (, Rob Carter spent several years teaching high school biology, chemistry, physics and electronics before venturing off to the University of Miami, where he earned a Ph.D. in marine biology. He is one of the 15 Ph.D. scientists in Evolution’s Achilles’ Heels and one of the scholars in The Voyage that Shook the World, a docudrama that traces Darwin's journey from England, to South America and the Galapagos islands. And don't forget the magazine! Dr. Carter is also a contributor to what is RSR's most-oft recommended creation periodical, Creation magazine available at!  

Dr. Rob Carter photo
Rob Carter Ph.D.

* RSR Rob Carter Interviews and Related Resources: Just click on over to to find all things Rob Carter here on Real Science Radio, or peruse this list to enjoy something that should absolutely amaze you...

RSR's List of Earth's Collapsing "Ancient" Features

Related Story: Four days after this RSR program aired, the European Space Agency
announced that they had filmed an actual landslide on Comet 67P,
an allegedly four billion year-old flying pile of rounded boulders and ice,
yet another phenomenon for our List of the Solar System's Transient Events.

* Dozens of Recently Fallen Geological Attractions: Real Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams present a list of dozens of notable geologic features, many of them claimed to have formed over hundreds of thousands or millions of years, which have recently collapsed. However, if Earth's geological tourist attractions of structures like spires and arches actually were that old, then mathematically, we would not expect to see gravity destroying so many of them so rapidly. The old-earth model and its rejection of the global flood is challenged by the observation that on average over the past half century, more than one collapse of a notable arch or other geological attraction occurs per year, without anything like an offsetting replacement formation rate of new gravity-defying attractions. Thus these thousands of known geological features were formed by an intensity of geological processes not at work today and the population of them, far from being steady, is dwindling.

1500 - 2017 A.D.

* List of Earth's Collapsing "Ancient" Features: We thank Creation magazine and David Catchpoole for assembling his list which then became the beginning of our own. So welcome to RSR's newest list, which is a subset of our List of the Transient Events in the Solar System. Thus, here's our list of the collapsed notable arches, etc. with no similar number of offsetting arches forming.
- Eye of the Needle on the Missouri River in Montana, the famous Lewis and Clark arch, first documented in 1805, which collapsed evidently from natural causes in 2002.
- Malta's Azure Window, the picturesque limestone arch on the famed Mediterranean island, is no longer as of March 7, 2017. Unlike many of the other formations in this list, an ancient heritage is not claimed for the Azure Window, but instead, that if formed a mere 500 years ago. (And still standing are 26 more arches on Malta's islands including the nearby Wied il-Mielah "Window".)
- London Bridge in South Australia was a natural arch formation on the coast that, since 1990, is no longer.

Real Science Radio Interviews Bestselling Author of Gosnell

Bob Enyart in show prep

* America's Most Prolific Serial Killer: RSR host Bob Enyart interviews Phelim McAleer, co-author with his wife Ann McElhinney, of Gosnell: The untold story of America's most prolific serial killer, about Philadelphia's abortionist Kermit Gosnell. As a spokesman for American Right To Life and a 25-year talk radio host, Enyart brings a unique perspective to the interview. Bob was thankful when McAller described the horror, not only of Gosnell's "bad" abortions but even of the 40,000 "good" abortions committed by one of the witnesses at Gosnell's trial, which testimony caused even the urban "pro-choice" jury to gasp. Bob also appreciated McAller's willingness to describe Gosnell's abortion mill as an indicator of what the abortion industry itself is like.

* Bob's 2-minute Contribution: Bob Enyart and RSR producer Larry Wolfe contributed to the viral undercover abortion videos phenomenon with this...

Cold-Case Detective Finds an Intruder in the Universe

Det. J. Warner Wallace

* Cold-case detective on RSR: Bob Enyart interviews J. Warner Wallace, cold-case homicide detective and adjunct professor of apologetics at Biola University about his books, God's Crime Scene and Cold-Case Christianity. Det. Wallace applies crime scene investigation techniques to the universe to determine if God is the most reasonable inference for the evidence.

* Forensic science is a type of historical science: Not unlike Det. Wallace, Real Science Radio applies the concept of forensic investigation to the study of the universe and thus beyond its customary criminal context. On a related matter, C.S. Lewis in Christian Reflections, pg. 77, wrote that, "If popular thought feels ‘science’ to be different from all other kinds of knowledge because science is experimentally verifiable, popular thought is mistaken. Experimental verification is not a new kind of assurance coming in to supply the deficiencies of mere logic. We should therefore abandon the distinction between scientific and non-scientific thought. The proper distinction is between logical and non-logical thought." Likewise, RSR notes a gradual broadening of the concept of forensics to include the use of scientific investigation to determine what events may have occurred in the past, whether criminal or not. (Examples include the "forensic investigation" of meteorites, soil engineeringEgyptian mummies, wetlandsfossilsplate tectonics, disastersNeanderthals, American historyall history, and supernovae.)

* The interview's unexpected development: An unexpected development in the interview occurred when Wallace, a defender of America's criminal justice system, and Bob Enyart, an outspoken critic, disagreed with each other over Bob's widely quoted assessment that, "It's no longer a justice system, now it's just a system." With Det. Wallace praising the jury system, Bob referred to it as "justice by committee" and pointed out that juries provide zero accountability, even when evidently guilty murderers are freed to commit more crime, for they are staffed by essentially anonymous individuals who immediately disband after rendering their verdict. The guys did agree, however, that, biblically speaking, the two or three witnesses necessary for a conviction do not need to be eyewitnesses (physical and circumstantial evidence can do just fine). But then, briefly, they disagreed on the ubiquitous claim that America has "the best system in the world."

RSR's List of List Shows Pt. 2

Real Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams conclude their discussion (see Part 1) of the astounding scientific discoveries and evidence that fill their popular list shows, such as their List of Not So Old Things, their List of Fine Tuning Evidence, and their List of Creation Science Predictions. The guys mention about 20 list shows and 10 more in the planning stages and ask for input on ideas and priorities from the audience.

RSR's List of List Shows

Real Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams talk through the astounding scientific discoveries and evidence that fill their popular list shows, such as their List of Not So Old Things, their List of Fine Tuning Evidence, and their List of Creation Science Predictions. The guys mention about 20 list shows and 10 more in the planning stages and ask for input on ideas and priorities from the audience.

Telethon Update: We're at $9,000 [$12,500 as of 2/22] of our vital $30,000 goal in our annual February telethon! So THANK YOU so much to everyone who has given so generously! As a gift for a donation of $100 or more or for signing up for our monthly subscription (call 800-8Enyart or go to we'll send you a Thank You gift of Walt Brown's book In the Beginning AND of Bob's Big Bang video!

* RSR's Popular LIST SHOWS: We hope you enjoy our tradition of occasionally updating the great information in our classic RSR List Shows! Here are some of our favorites:
RSR's List of Not So Old Things
- List of Evidence Against the Big Bang
- List of Big Bang Predictions (try Googling those 3 words!)
- List of Fine Tuning Evidence
- List of Scholars Doubting Darwin
- List of Creation Science Predictions (try Googling that too!)
- List of Shocked Evolutionists
- List of Solar System Formation Problems
- List of Papers that Shock Potheads
- List of Carbon 14 Everywhere it Shouldn't Be
- List of Dinosaur Soft Tissue Discoveries
- List of Answers to Hydroplate Objections
- List of Proofs for the Genius of Ancient Man
- List of Missing Transitional Fossils
- List of Genomes that Just Don't Fit
- List of Fresh Fossils
- List of Solar System Transient Events
- List of Creationist Fathers of Science
- List of Recovered Brain Dead Patients [not yet RSR-ized]
- List of Whale Evolution Problems

Targeted Antibody Cancer Treatment CEO on RSR

The mainstream media should be running weekly headlines
updating the public on the latest progress with targeted antibody treatment.
For some reason though, for now, if you want to keep up with the latest astounding
cancer treatment developments, you'll have to keep tuning in to BEL and Real Science Radio!

* Targeted Antibodies Cancer Treatment Revolution: Among the stunning results for targeted antibodies cancer treatment, CBS News reported on 35 terminally-ill advanced-stage leukemia sufferers. The disease went into remission in 94%, or 33 of 35 patients. Dr. Michael Grossbard, New York University's Perlmutter Cancer Center leukemia specialist told CBS News, "Oncologists are reluctant to use the word extraordinary. But these [results] are extraordinary. These are really remarkable findings..." Now this, right up the street from RSR's studio...

12-year-old Colorado girl's stunning before and after cancer treatment scans* ArcherDX in Boulder, Colorado: ArcherDX spearheaded the effort to save the life of 12-year old Zaida. Real Science Radio host Bob Enyart interviews Archer's CEO Jason Myers to discuss Zaida's case and to get a better understanding both of this revolution in cancer treatment and of how targeted immunotherapy works. Studies in the U.S. and the U.K. are seeing hundreds of patients with many types of cancer virtually "cured", as some oncologists are now putting it. Not every patient though responds well, and some few have even died from the treatment, but overall, the widespread success is stunning. ArcherDX provides the technology so that a patient's doctor can find out quickly what specific mutations may be causing the cancer. Now, a growing number of oncologists will be offering their patients the greatest of hope through individualized treatment that, like an archer aiming at a target, just might hit the bullseye! Online at, this next-generation sequencing (NGS) firm develops what is called target enrichment chemistry.

* Cancers Already Being Successfully Treated: People suffer from more than 100 major types of cancer. And while antibody treatment has resulted in some relatively rare autoimmune or other negative and even lethal side effects, the much more common positive treatment experiences range in degree, from stopping further tumor growth, to actually shrinking tumors, to major remission, and even to apparent cure. The types of cancer already being successfully treated with immunotherapy, using either the inhibitor or the re-targeting approach, include:
- Lung cancer (non-small cell with 30-50% response rates as of Feb. 2017)
- Leukemia
- Hodgkin lymphoma
- Non-Hodgkin lymphoma
- Lymph node cancer
- Melanoma skin cancer
- Kidney (r
enal cell) carcinoma
- Bladder (urothelial) cancer
- Head cancers
- Neck cancers

(Please don't hesitate to email updates to this list to

* Handy List of Targeted Antibodies Trials, Success Stories, and RSR Broadcasts: The public awareness of the current revolution is cancer antibody treatment should explode from the 2015 to the end of 2017. As with all medicines, patients respond with great variability. However, the following results and ongoing trials though are greatly encouraging:

Fred Williams' RMCF Talk & More Dino Soft Tissue

* Real Science News: Real Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams discuss highlights from Fred's presentation at the most recent second Friday meeting of the Rocky Mountain Creation Fellowship. Fred's theme was Fake News, and that from mainstream news and science publications.


* Fake Science News: The guys first address the Fake News that mutations and natural selection can explain the diversity of life on earth by adding the Templeton Foundation to their list of those who Doubt Darwin. And they dismantle the Fake News that the chimp genome is 98% percent the same as the human genome, which is a mathematical impossibility given that it's 10% larger! And they address the Fake News about australopithecine Lucy, who, as it turns out, fell to her death from a tree, the Fake News about Tiktaalik, evolving into his ancestor, and the Fake News about Rodhocetus, the alleged early whale now stripped of his fluked tail, flippers, and blowhole!

Creation Evolution Headlines II with David Coppedge on RSR

* CREV Headlines on RSR: Bob Enyart welcomes back to Real Science Radio the former JPL employee David Coppedge to once again discuss amazing scientific discoveries. Coppedge is a former NASA Cassini Saturn mission lead ground systems administrator and author of the Creation-Evolution Headlines site over at One might think that by now, secular scientists would have figured out how the Moon go there, it being the closest of all celestial bodies. Yet, while they want people to believe that they can explain how the universe got here, the galaxies, the stars, and the planets, in reality, they can't even explain how the Moon got here. The guys also discuss how the latest discoveries about Pluto and Ceres once again fundamentally contradict the secular worldview. And the guys discuss yet another mammal that ate dinosaurs, biomimetics, and the grotesque inhumanity inspired by Darwinism.

EVENTS -- RIDDLE: 7 p.m. Thurs., Feb. 2nd hear creationist Mike Riddle in Arvada, Colorado at Peace Lutheran Church and again there from 8:30 a.m. to 5:30 p.m. on Sat., Feb. 4th attend Mike's "Beginning Creation Training" seminar!

EVENT -- ENYART: At 9 a.m. tomorrow, Saturday, January 28, come out to hear Bob Enyart as the keynote speaker at Colorado RTL's 2017 March for Life across the street from Denver's Planned Parenthood. UPDATE: See Bob's talk on the BEL YouTube channel or see it right here:

ORIGIN, the film!

Illustra Media's film Origin
From award-winning Illustra Media

* RSR Interviews Illustra Media's Science Film Producer: Real Science Radio host Bob Enyart welcomes back Lad Allen of Illustra Media to discuss his latest film, ORIGIN: Design, Chance and the First Life on Earth. Featuring scientists Paul Nelson and Ann Gauger (and narration by Alvin Chea of Take Six), ORIGIN presents spectacular computer animation and cutting-edge research to examine the question that has baffled science: How did life on Earth begin? Today, most researchers insist it arose through simple chemistry that—without direction of plan—transformed inanimate matter into the first living cell. Yet, this explanation is devoid of evidence and unsatisfying, even to many of its most ardent supporters. As ORIGIN exposes the flaws of materialistic theories, you’ll travel through a molecular universe to encounter extraordinary biological engineering fundamental to the survival of every organism that has ever existed. Engineering that points clearly to intelligence and mind. RSR recommends: Buy ORIGIN now, at on DVD or Blu-ray!

* For the First Monday that Donald Trump Woke Up in the White House: (post-show update) See the full-page Washington Times ad run by Colorado Right To Life to urge the Congress, the Supreme Court, and the new Trump administration, to learn what is right and to do what is right, by the most innocent among us.

President Trump...