Real Science Radio

Welcome to Real Science Radio: Co-hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams talk about science to debunk evolution and to show the evidence for the creator God including from biology, genetics, geology, history, paleontology, archaeology, astronomy, philosophy, cosmology, math, and physics. (For example, mutations will give you bad legs long before you'd get good wings.) We get to debate Darwinists and atheists like Lawrence Krauss, AronRa, and Eugenie Scott. We easily take potshots from popular evolutionists like PZ Myers, Phil Plait, and Jerry Coyne. We're the home of the popular List Shows! And we interview the outstanding scientists who dare to challenge today's accepted creed that nothing created everything.

A Possible Cause of Death of Denver's Dino Fossil Preparator

Thornton triceratops dig site.

Nov. 2017 Update: Corner says  Mike Getty died of a heart attack.

On today's episode of RSR, Bob Enyart and Fred Williams report on the four published papers in some of the world's more prestigious science periodicals, including the journals Microbiology and Science, on living bacteria recovered from within fossils dated as 40 million, 120 million, and even 250 million years old. (Of course, widely-published discoveries of biological material from within many dinosaur bones of a half-dozen different species, of extant and still-soft original biological tissue, indicate that dinosaurs like the Thornton triceratops are only thousands and not millions of years old. And likewise, living bacteria from within amber, rock salt, etc., falsifies the claimed millions-of-years ages of those specimens.)

Living bacteria discovered in specimens dated millions of years old...

triceratops-thornton-dig-site.jpg* Authorities Investigating Unexpected Death at Dinosaur Site: Because pathogens can survive in fossils dated (obviously incorrectly) as hundreds of millions of years old, authorities investigating the unexpected death of Mike Getty, a Denver Museum of Nature and Science fossil preparator, should consider whether he was infected by any decomposing biological matter that may still exist within the triceratops he was excavating. As Brian Switek at the Smithsonian magazine points out, paleontologist will sometimes put a specimen on his tongue in determining whether it is a small rock or a chip of bone. Until any possible cross-infection from the triceratops to Mr. Getty is ruled out, the museum should therefore caution its staff against that practice at this location.

* Local, National, and Int'l Media Reporting on Getty's Passing: The Denver Post and local TV news, the NY Daily News, the Fox News Channel, many science news outlets, and Britain's Daily Mail which reported on Mike Getty "contracting a mystery illness" and his sudden passing from unknown causes at the Thornton, Colorado triceratops excavation site. The Denver science museum said that, "All emergency management and safety protocols were followed in accordance with best practices." RSR recommends that as authorities investigate the cause of death, they should not overlook the possibility of a pathogen, bacterial contagion, etc., that may have passed from the triceratops itself to Mr. Getty.

New BEL Telethon Option: Joining the RSR Research Team

For more than a decade, BEL and Real Science Radio listeners have helped Bob on his 7 p.m. Monday night video conference call (nowadays on Google Hangouts) doing research and helping in other ways. To help reach our $30,000 telethon goal (we're at $6,000), if you would like to join this team, there is a participation cost of $20 per week. We know, we know. What? Pay money to help? Yes, here's why.

First, we've been doing this for many years and we know that most folks think they can't really help and so they don't participate, but now, knowing that they've paid for their "seat at the table", we think that more people will actually join the team!

Secondly, as Tom Healey, who sat in with Bob on the radio last week said, "I had no idea when I began working with BEL what an amazing education I would get and what a wonderful journey I would take." (Thanks Tom for your years of research and help!) So this is somewhat like paying for a class, and even though the class requires some effort, the payoff for those who apply themselves can be measured in lifetime and even eternal benefits!

Third, over the last 26 years Bob and his staffers have trained scores of volunteers, many times to see our dear friends stop helping out because of understandable changes in their circumstances. As a result, we've become a bit hesitant to continue to train folks to be a part of our behind-the-scenes team. But with this new approach, opening to you the Monday night research team, even though there is now a cost, that may help us overcome all the above difficulties and help toward meeting our financial challenges. So, please call 1-800-8Enyart to "join the team" or email your name and number to Thanks, and may God continue to bless you!

YouTube screenshot of lab coat friends of RSR...* Ha! What's This? Someone sent us a screenshot of a YouTube video where two lab guys doing a Carbon 14 presentation have recommended

RSR Prediction: Asteroid Florence May Have 2 Moons. Confirmed!

* Confirmations of RSR Predictions Roll In: We're broadcasting the news, RSR style. Bob Enyart airs the audio from last week's program when we made a prediction that Asteroid Florence may have one or two moons. Science headlines this week: Asteroid Florence has two moons! Ha! See more at There are about 1.5 million asteroids, and over 150 are known to have moons, or about 0.0001%.

Hurricanes, Today's Asteroid, Cancer Antibodies, and Other News

The news, RSR style. Bob Enyart and Fred Williams discuss Hurricane Harvey, the terrible death toll and suffering, why there were no hurricanes before the flood, and why Christians shouldn't claim that God targeted Texas. Then for some good news, this week the FDA approved a "living drug" for childhood leukemia as we discuss over at

Bergman on How Darwinism Corrodes Morality

Post-show Note: By the way, our RSR/BEL YouTube channel is approaching 300,000 views! To help us hit that milestone, you might want to check out our brief impromptu cell phone video from Yellowstone on their now-removed misleading petrified tree exhibit:

The Great American Eclipse RSR Style Pt. 2

The path of the Great American EclipseWith today's standalone program (i.e., no need to first hear Part 1),  Real Science Radio concludes their reporting on the science, political correctness, and practicality of preparing for the Great American Eclipse! Bob Enyart and Fred Williams first chastise those claiming mystical significance to the eclipse, then discuss the appropriate viewing and travel warnings, the main astronomical fact (often obscured by the anti-design science media), and the politically correct complaining about the name of this eclipse by the libs over at AstronomyCast.

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1925 New York Times report on an eclipse...

Bergman on Anti-Evolutionist C. S. Lewis: The Most Prolific Creationist on the Best-Selling Christian Author

Dr. Jerry Bergman, author of 1,170 science papers, articles, and books, has now written the definitive book C. S. Lewis: Anti-Darwinist. One proof of a hundred in the book is what Lewis wrote to leading creationist Bernard Ackworth. "I wish I were younger... [I] think that you may be right in regarding it [evolution] as the central and radical lie in the whole web of falsehood that now governs our lives..." After reading about twenty of Lewis' books, RSR's Bob Enyart concurs with Bergman's conclusion and mentions the demonic character Prof. Weston from Perelandra whom Lewis describes as a devotee of "emergent evolution", the author's term for macroevolution.

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* One of RSR's Favorite Lewis Quote: From

On Scientific Thought, by C.S. Lewis
[Christian Reflectionspage 77]

If popular thought feels ‘science’ to be different from all other kinds of knowledge because science is experimentally verifiable, popular thought is mistaken. Experimental verification is not a new kind of assurance coming in to supply the deficiencies of mere logic. We should therefore abandon the distinction between scientific and non-scientific thought. The proper distinction is between logical and non-logical thought. - Lewis

Insect Ears and Fruit Fly Expert Jerry Coyne

* Fossil Insect Ears Sound Warning to Darwinists: RSR co-hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams discuss a great David Coppedge story in the July - Sept., 2012 Creation magazine about fossilized insect ears. Darwinists have claimed that, prior to the (alleged) evolution of bats, early insects would be seen to lack ears. Lo and behold though, a study including by a scientist up the road from RSR, at the University of Colorado at Boulder, have found modern insect ears fossilized where they had expected to find deaf bugs.

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* Jerry Coyne is a fruit-fly expert and evolution professor at the University of Chicago, well known for his opposition to creation and his website Why Evolution Is True. Bob Enyart is a young-earth creationist. So which man would you think, the evolutionist or the creationist, would more accurately understand and present the latest cutting-edge discoveries from the world of genetics, and which one would be in denial? See for yourself...

The following three screenshots are from Coyne's criticism of Real Science Radio in his Nov. 19, 2012 blog, with the third presenting his scientific criticism. Following them is the comment that Bob Enyart posted which Jerry has so far rejected from appearing on his blog. First, Coyne's heading...

Screenshot from Coyne's blog...







Next, see Jerry's fun visual comparison of the logos (with RSR hoping that National Public Radio's SciFri sticks with their logo and doesn't copy ours ;)

Screenshot from Coyne's blog...









And last, here is the main scientific criticism that Jerry Coyne chose to level against RSF.

Screenshot from Coyne's blog...

So the question is, on this specific scientific matter, is the famed University of Chicago evolution professor correct, or is the fundamentalist Christian young earth creationist correct? Well, for starters, far from this being primarily a single-celled phenomena, even vertebrate genomes are so erratic and unwilling to be forced into a Darwinian lineage, that in their January 2013 journal, the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences reports that horizontal gene transfer must have "transformed vertebrate genomes."