Real Science Radio co-host Bob Enyart interviews the fourth man to walk on the moon, astronaut Alan Bean. After a great discussion, Captain Bean suddenly had to leave, and then Bob then took time to discuss the one topic that they disagreed about during the interview.
* No UFOs, No Aliens: Because Astronaut Bean told us on today's interview (as he has said elsewhere too) that he believes that aliens exist, we've decided to update our list of arguments against the evidence for their existence right here on this page (rsr.org/astronaut-on-rsr). Gary Bates's best-selling DVD Alien Abductions and UFOs – Exposed, which has ranked as high as an Amazon.com Top 50 Best-seller, provided the basis for this list though in our typical RSR style we've expanded this, and may continue to build on in, including below numbers 13 through 15!
1. No two UFOs are ever alike: Or more accurately, Earth would have been visited by thousands of different alien species if the wildly divergent descriptions of their spacecraft tended to be valid, yet in unanimity after all these diverse species traverse enormous distances to get here, they all decide to be coy, avoid crowds, make crop circles, etc.
2. They're already here? We've never seen them entering our atmosphere (they're always already here when they're seen).
3. They change shape: They morph. How can nuts and bolds spacecraft do that?
4. They're not physical: Aliens walk through walls.
5. Astronomical discovery makes the ET idea quaint: The UFO idea predates our better understanding: Aliens arriving was thought up in the 50s & 60s and since then we've learned how enormous the Universe is, and just to get across our Galaxy, even at the speed of light, it would take 100,000 years, so the nuclear physicist aliens would have to teach their children to be physicists, and that next generation of aliens would have to teach their children, and so on, and so on, and...
6. Spacecraft travel problems: Energy requirements: 98 atom bombs for 500 grams to get to half the speed of light. Also,
- At half the speed of light it would take four million years to reach Andormeda, the closest Galaxy.
- 100k dust particles for every cubic kilometer whereas one spec of dust, at a 10th the speed of light, is like 10 tons of TNT exploding on your craft.
- A .2 mm paint flake hit the Space Shuttle Challenger in 1983 and it cost $50,000 to repair the damage to the windshield.
7. 9Gs: The force of gravity at Earth's surface, times just nine, could kill an airforce pilot. "Warp speed" would be millions of Gs. Make it so.
8. Cosmic Radiation: Cosmic radiation could kill you. Einstein's relativity indicates that it would require a virtually infinite amount of energy to get your ship to the speed of light. That's why science fiction writers put their faith (and too many boring plot lines) into wormholes.
9. IDH: "UFOlogists", not unlike "witchologists", are big on IDH which is the Interdimensional Hypothesis claim that aliens don't have bodies so they don't need spacecraft.
10. String Theory: Some UFOlogists claim that String Theory's multiple dimensions perhaps they refer to spiritual dimensions but God is spirit and He made spirit beings (angels) and endowed humans with a spirit, and all these persons dwell in only one spiritual dimension. And after many decades, string theory has never found the observational evidence that its supporters have expected.
11. Violate the laws of physics: UFOs materialize and dematerialize and defy the laws of physics as they accelerate toward the ground and do a U-turn.
12. Mythmaking: Markers of the Classic Abduction Syndrome (CAS) include there is a capture and there may be an examination, telepathy, a tour of the ship, and they may take a journey, then return and experience aftermath symptoms of interference.
13. Water is the enemy of abiogenesis: Water on another planet would further prevent, and not enable, the origin of life. Water is not a friend but an enemy of abiogenesis because as the universal solvent, it would dissolve prebiotic chemicals including the amino acids and polymers that would be needed to form the first molecular biological structures.
14. Expect fewer sightings of "actual" spaceships: RSR has predicted, with evidence in 2017 already suggested this will be confirmed, that the frequency of claims of clearly seen "alien spaceships" will diminish with the increased prevalence of video-capable cell phones.
15. ETs Need to Get a Job: Apparently, thousands of extraterrestrials fly thousands, millions, or billions of light years, then they lie about why they're here, they kidnap people at night, and what, they're here to fix global warming? Or did they really come in order to disembowel cattle, make crop circles, conduct anal probes, and show off for photos in Phoenix? Then they leave. Really? Huh? :)
16. We may be near the center: Materialist scientists lack the evidence they desire and so therefore they merely assume that the the universe has a center. (See some of the world's leading cosmologists admitting this, at rsr.org/center.) What evidence that does exist, for example from the Sloan Digital Sky Survey with the apparent quantized redshift of galaxies, and "axis of evil" which then would be consistent with galaxies existing in preferred distances and concentric shells out from the center of the universe, implies that the universe has a center. This would not be surprising given that the Bible describes mankind as at the center of God's attention, and so, such evidence if it holds up, would locate mankind on a planet in the Milky Way which itself is somewhere very near the center of the action. Also, as Christians know, God the Son became the Son of Man to sacrifice Himself to pay for our sin so that whoever trusts in Him will have everlasting life. Jesus prayer in Gethsemane indicates that there is no other way to procure salvation for such eternal beings as ourselves, other than by the death of the one who made us. If God created sentient beings on other planets and they too fell by rebelling against Him, then God would have to sacrifice Himself again (and again and again for all these alien races). However, the New Testament says that the sacrifice that God endured to save us was to happen once for all and never again.
* See Also from an RSR Sparring Partner: From one of our rsr.org/spat partners, Phil Plaitt, see his Ten Alien Encounters Debunked.
* Bob asked Astronaut Bean in Passing About the Absurd Moon Hoax Claim: So we've pasted all the following text from rsr.org/moon... Now that Neil Armstrong has passed away, the moon landing hoax is also going. As a tribute to the first man to walk on the moon, we rebut the many claims of the alleged landing hoax. RSR hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams discuss:
- the passing of Neil Armstrong
- the first eating and drinking on the moon was Buzz Aldrin's communion
- that NASA seriously feared too much lunar dust (and yes, it accumulates fast)
- that the latest data shows that the moon dust argument is valid after all
- the many transient lunar events (that shouldn't be happening if the moon is old)
- (post show) what changed the moon's 30-day orbit to one of 29.5 days
- the definitive rebuttals to the various moon landing hoax allegations (see below)
- the right cross (punch in the face, in Christian love of course) that Aldrin delivered right on target to a conspiracy theory filmmaker.
- Post-show: Why does the recently created moon have so many craters?
- Post-show: In May 2017, tune in for Bob's interview with an astronaut who walked on the Moon at rsr.org/captain-alan-bean.
* Moon Landing and Hoax Sources: We are glad, once again, to speak out against a conspiracy theory. Bob Enyart was one of hundreds of millions of people who on July 21, 1969 watched the broadcast of man's first step on the moon. Four decades later Aug. 4, 2010 to familiarize himself with the moon landing hoax allegations and to learn how best to refute them, with producer Will he watched
- Conspiracy Theory: Did we land on the moon, 2001 (CT)
- Mythbusters on the moon landing (MB)
- Apollo 11, First Steps on the Moon (FSOTM) a documentary of NASA officials explaining the risks and uncertainties that threatened the mission. 1998 Global Science Productions
- Honorable mention: see also the moon hoax page from Discovery channel's Phil Plait
* Answering Specific Moon Landing Hoax Claims (collected from the CT video and elsewhere)
- Can't see stars in various photos: The bright foreground and dark background composition of such photos results in a photographic effect whereby dimmer objects, such as stars in the sky, do not appear.
- Craters on moon may actually be from Area 51: "Conspiracy Theory" aired prior to Google Earth displaying Area 51. Conspiracy theorists have not since not linked to, nor otherwise documented there, the alleged terrestrial moon landscapes.
- No engine noise: On Star Trek TV shows, there is a quiet hum from the engines during typical scenes that take place on the ship. However, the audio from the Lunar Lander is very quiet and an astronaut even mentioned how quiet it was. Sound waves don't propagate in space, so while on earth engine noise will bounce back off the air surrounding a car on the highway, that effect doesn't exist in space. The only engine noise would have been transferred through the craft's structure, which could certainly be audible, but NASA explains that the all important insulation on the craft would significantly dampen that sound.
- No crater in the dust from Lunar Module landings: Photos and videos don't show landing craters below modules, even though NASA artwork previously predicted such craters would result from blown away dust. Of course, the depth of any expected crater would originally be influenced by NASA's fear of deep dust. (See RSF's NASA feared deep dust on the moon.)
- Missing Lunar Module in photo: A photograph exists of a distinctive moonscape without the lunar module, and then another with the same moonscape that includes the lunar module in the photo. When the module blasts off, it leaves its base, so the first photo seems to have been taken prior to the astronauts landing on the moon. The answer lies in the hills of the moonscape being very far away and because there is no atmosphere on the moon, the image has great clarity giving the impression that the hills are nearby. Then, when the camera is moved just a hundred yards or so to one side and snaps a photo in the same direction, the Lander is no longer in the frame, but the background is hardly changed, because of its distance. Careful examination of the famous photos does show the parallax however. A YouTube video has a great example and actual photos showing that parallax.