Welcome to Real Science Radio: Co-hosts Fred Williams and Doug McBurney talk about science to debunk evolution and to show the evidence for the creator God including from biology, genetics, geology, history, paleontology, archaeology, astronomy, philosophy, cosmology, math, and physics. (For example, mutations will give you bad legs long before you'd get good wings.) We get to debate Darwinists and atheists like Lawrence Krauss, AronRa, and Eugenie Scott. We easily take potshots from popular evolutionists like PZ Myers, Phil Plait, and Jerry Coyne. The RSR Archive contains our popular List Shows! And we interview the outstanding scientists who dare to challenge today's accepted creed that nothing created everything.
RSR airs every Friday at 3pm MST on AM 670 KLTT in Denver, Colorado. For rebroadcast times and podcast platforms, see our Affiliates page.
* Dr. John West on Totalitarian Science: Discovery Institute senior fellow Dr. John West, author of Darwin Day in America: How our politics and culture have been dehumanized in the name of science, speaks with Real Science Radio host Bob Enyart about the rise of totalitarian science. As the culture increasingly looks to science for moral guidance, America is in a moral free fall, for the scientific laws have no moral component and do not even use the words right and wrong.
* Recalling Last Year's Alaska Science Cruise: On a real Science Radio program in 2014 Bob gave to his co-host Fred Williams a debrief on the Discovery Institute's cruise to Alaska which Bob benefited from immensely with great presentations from John West, Stephen Meyer, John West, Paul Nelson, and Oxford's John Lennox.
* Two New Real Science Radio Videos: If you click to see RSR's two-minute contribution to the undercover abortion viral videos phenomenon, you'll not only see perhaps the most needed video to date on the crisis, but you'll also help this contribution hit the 10,000 views mark (currently at 9,900+). Then there's Bob's theistic evolution presentation in Malibu that we've embedded right here:
Today's Resource: You're invited to browse the Science Department of our Real Science Radio store online at store.kgov.com or call to ask about our fun audio, literature, and video resources, at 1-800-8Enyart (836-9278).
* Real Science Radio in England: Bob Enyart is headed to England on a research project, from Sept. 13th to the 23rd. In the latter part of the trip, he will meet with creation-minded scientists, tentatively in Liverpool, Portsmouth, and at Cambridge or Oxford, but potentially, anywhere the trains go! So if you are such a scientist, or creation activist, please let us know at Bob@rsr.org if you would be available for a meeting.
* Update: Hear those RSR interviews recorded on location with science and engineering professors from Liverpool, Leeds, and Portsmouth. Also, there's a Skype interview tentatively in the works with a professor from Oxford. And see the Dawkins 3-to-1 Evolution Challenge that we put in Richard Dawkin's faculty mailbox at New College in Oxford.
* Where Did the Water Come From? Then the guys get to the controversial stuff on flood models. In RSR's Global Flood video we claimed that only the Hydroplate Theory can answer the question: Where did the water come from? Now we have what we are interpreting as an admission from the non-hydroplate theory camps that their flood models have no way of adding to the Earth's surface during the flood significant quantities of additional water.
* CPT Lead Author Claims Floodwaters were Simply Ocean Water: Dr. John Baumgardener replying to questions that arose during the Flood Science Review answered the question, "Is it possible that the water which emerged from the 'fountains of the great deep' was from a subterranean source?" as follows:
In this CPT framework the steam in these spectacular fountain-like jets as well as the water that becomes entrained in the fringes of the jets and lofted high into the atmosphere is ocean water.
* Atheists and Pond Scum in the Latest Creation Mag: Real Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams begin with fun science news in the latest edition of creation.com/magazine. For example, as illustrated on the right (by John Bracht, American University, and Robert Hammersmith, Ball State University), CMI reports on the discovery of a non-primitive, not-simple single-celled pond organism Oxytricha trifallax that breaks down its own DNA into 225,000 segments and then reassembles it before reproducing! In this issue of their great magazine, Creation Ministries International also reports on a survey about belief in aliens conducted by astronomer David Weintraub from Tennessee's Vanderbilt University, of various demographic groups, atheists, muslims, Roman Catholics, mainline denominations, etc. It turns out that the most superstitious of these groups were atheists, with a majority of atheists believing in aliens, whereas the least superstitious were fundamentalist evangelicals such as Southern Baptists (and Fred, and Pastor Bob, and Denver Bible Church).
* BTW: This evening, Bob Enyart, his brother Brian and sister-in-law Jen, and her mom Dee, appeared briefly on The Food Network's Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives, from weeks ago when they enjoyed a meal at Denver's excellent Greek restaurant Axios.
* Lad Allen on RSR! Real Science Radio host Bob Enyart interviews Lad Allen of Illustra Media on his latest film, Living Waters: Intelligent Design in the Oceans of the Earth. Featuring humans Paul Nelson and Richard Sternberg and a multitude of dolphins, sea turtles, sockeye salmon, and humpback whales, this extraordinary production will thrill anyone with a thirst for compelling evidence of design and purpose in the living world. (Image right: Producer Allen on the "set" of Living Waters.) To order a DVD that you can enjoy and share with a friend just visit livingwatersthefilm.com or, to get the film—and at the same time to support our own broadcast—please shop here at RSR at store.kgov.com!
* One of the World's Most Influential Creationists: With his enormous weekly television audience, David Rives, host of the Creation in the 21st Century on the Trinity Broadcasting Network, is quickly becoming one of the most influential creationists in the world! Bob Enyart is honored to welcome David to the RSR studio. You can watch Rives (for Broncos' fans, that's pronounced Reeves) program every Wednesday at noon Eastern Time. David conducts his own historical and scientific research, has been featured on the History Channel in relation to his work on Dead Sea Scrolls projects, interviews many of the world's most effective creationists, and has appeared on media outlets around the world.
* David Rives' Field Work: Hundreds of hours working with observatory class telescopes and eleven trips to the Holy Land provide the backdrop for David's broadcast to millions on TBN with his signature line: "The Heavens Declare the Glory of God." From a biblical prospective he explores the beauty and sophistication of creation while his successful songwriting and recording career enables David to add a musical dimension to his outreach. Around the world people hear his message through documentaries, music, television programs, interviews, photography, books, and lectures. Perhaps most significantly, David launched the groundbreaking Genesis Science Network., available on Roku and streaming on phones, pads, notebooks, and PCs! See why Bob loves this 24/7 presentation of creation science material...
* RSR's 2-minute Contribution to the Viral Abortion Body Parts Videos: Prepare yourself, but then, please share...
* Video of RSR on the Pepperdine Campus: In Malibu this summer Bob Enyart warned Pepperdine University students about theistic evolution. That presentation is now on YouTube and available for viewing right here:
Bob Enyart interviews Eric Hovind of Creation Today about his effective rebuttal of the theory of evolution and the misinformation that leads many people to accept an old earth and to reject God. Bob and Eric discuss: - Eric's Genesis 3D film's trailers and featurettes (see one below) - Crowd funding for Genesis 3D - the eight Creation Minute videos - the Hovind family's role in the creation movement - and the airing in the 1990s of one of their entire five-hour video series in 80 cities from Honolulu to Orlando on Bob Enyart Live.
* Video of RSR on the Pepperdine Campus: The presentation in Malibu that Bob and Eric disccused from this summer warning Pepperdine University students about theistic evolution is now on YouTube and available for viewing right here:
* March 2015 IAU Image Typical of Pluto Expectations: (Below, see our list of solar system formation problems.) Just a few months ago, the International Astronomical Union used an image of Pluto (right) that represents the expectations of secular astronomers depicting a heavily cratered body grimy from sweeping up billions of years of space dust. Again though, the predictions of old-earth astronomy failed. Likewise, from its physics to its major predictions, the entire theory of solar system formation, the nebular hypothesis, has failed. Real Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams then back up to get the big picture by quoting NASA's exoplanet database manager Caltech astronomer Mike Brown who said: “Before we ever discovered any [planets outside the solar system] we thought we understood the formation of planetary systems pretty deeply… It was a really beautiful theory. And, clearly, thoroughly wrong." Exoplanets, with their masses, sizes, composition and orbital characteristics differ from what had been predicted for decades by the standard model of solar system formation, including with their retrograde orbits, highly inclined orbits and hot jupiters, effectively falsifying that model.
* July 2015 What Pluto Actually Looks Like: The actual photos of Pluto from NASA's New Horizons mission will help make it obvious to thousands more people that the nebular hypothesis theory of origins is not helpful in understanding our solar system (or any other solar system for that matter). On today's program, Bob and Fred conclude RSR's List of Problems with Solar System Formation and they air an audio clip from a leading planetary scientist on the Passport to Pluto Science Channel update on NASA's mission acknowledging that even close to home, the predictions of mainstream (secular) astronomy mostly fail, and that's for planets nearest to home, in our very own solar system system. Taken together, the impressive scientific discoveries that completely falsify the nebular hypothesis of solar system formation include these:
* NASA's Planet Expert on the Nebular Hypothesis: Real Science Radio hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams begin today's program by contrasting (see below) the expectations versus the reality of Pluto's appearance and then introduce their List of Problems with Solar System Formation by quoting NASA's exoplanet database manager Caltech astronomer Mike Brown who
* Early Earth Educators: RSR has been eager to discuss the origin of mankind with Brian and Virginia Norman, the educators with degrees in geology and theology who formed the Early Earth Educators creation outreached. Bob and the Normans discuss genetics and the Bible's teaching that all nations have descended from one blood in contrast with the racism inherent in Charles Darwin's worldview. With race-based turmoil fomenting in America, and after Covenant Media's Matt and Mercy Hasselblad described the overt Hinduism-based racism in India's cities and then recommended EEE, RSR's producer Larry Wolfe arranged this interview with the Normans. Brian and Viriginia also discuss rsr.org/canaan, rsr.org/flood, and Brian's novel "Early Earth Book 2" which Bob Enyart's son Michael is enjoying reading right now.
* Welcome to Real Science Radio: Hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams discuss science to debunk evolution and to show the evidence for our creator God including from biology, geology, astronomy, and physics. (For example, mutations will give you bad legs long before you'd get good wings.) Not only do we get to debate Darwinists and atheists like Lawrence Krauss, AronRa, and Eugenie Scott, and easily take potshots from popular evolutionists like PZ Myers, Phil Plait, and Jerry Coyne, but we also occasionally interview the outstanding scientists who dare to challenge today's accepted creed that nothing created everything.
* July 14, 2015 Telethon Update: Thank you to everyone who has given toward our vital $30,000 telethon goal: we're now at $9,250! Please help if you can by clicking here to make a one-time donation, or to browse our store and make a purchase, or by signing up for a monthly donation, or by subscribing to one of our video or audio Bible-based monthly subscription services!
* A Science Hero's Work Corroborates the Young Earth: Real Science Radio's Bob Enyart and Fred Williams interview the scientist, Henry Richter, who led the team building America's first satellite Explorer 1. Dr. Richter (on left in this 1957 photo with JPL's Dr. George Ludwig) also held leadership roles in the launch of a number of the spacecraft that landed on the Moon, and even after he himself left the space program, his team completed the work on the scientific instrumentation for NASA's Mariner spacecraft which enabled it to explore Mercury, Venus and Mars! Dr. Richter earned a place in the history of scientific advancement. He is a biblical creationist and his efforts helped bring about the early and important discovery of the Van Allen radiation belt; he helped relieve the fear of too much dust on the moon (see below); and his work helped provide the benchmark from which NASA has learned that Mercury's magnetic field is rapidly decreasing in strength (see just below). Pleasing young-earthers and confounding old-earth planetary scientists, Mercury's magnetic field has decayed in strength eight percent from 1974 to 2011, not unlike Earth's field, which has lost ten percent of its energy over just the previous 150 years! Dr. Richter also made a brief comment regarding the bizarre moon landing hoax claim, which has been unnecessarily but fully refuted here (see below).
* Email Correspondence on Hidden Figures Subject: Hello Dr. Richter! Have you seen the movie "Hidden Figures" re: NASA in the 60s? ------------------------ From: Bob Enyart <Bob@rsr.org>
Date: Sun, Jan 15, 2017
To: "Dr. Henry L. Richter" <*****@*********.edu> Henry, hello again! I pray you are well! If you go to the theater and see Hidden Figures, if you have any thoughts about it that you'd like to share, I'd love to talk with you about it! As I recall from rsr.org/richter the scan of the title pages of your book showed that it was published in 1966. (The movie begins at NASA's facility in Virginia in 1961, just fyi.) - Bob Enyart ---------- From: "Dr. Henry L. Richter" <*****@*********.edu>
Date: Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 8:35 PM
To: Bob Enyart <Bob@rsr.org>
Cc: David Coppedge <*****@*********.com> Hello Bob. It has been a long time since we have been to a theatre, but I will watch for it. I left NASA/JPL in 1960. Thanks. Henry ---------- From: "Dr. Henry L. Richter" <*****@*********.edu>
Date: Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 10:35 PM
To: Bob Enyart <Bob@rsr.org>
Cc: David Coppedge <*****@*********.com> Bob – we saw Hidden Figures tonight. Well done! Though this was after my time at NASA it was very realistic and believable. I remember vividly my first trip to Huntsville, with the "colored-only drinking fountains and restrooms." I was enraged by this climate and vowed to drink from colored fountains. But I was sternly warned against this by my colleagues. It was unbelievable.
Henry p.s. We did not have computers in my day (JPL did have one analog computer) but the computing group did everything on Marchant and Friden calculators. SLOW! ---------- From: Bob Enyart <Bob@realscienceradio.com>
Date: Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 12:33 PM
To: "Dr. Henry L. Richter" <*****@*********.edu>
Cc: David Coppedge <*****@*********.com> Dr. Richter, I appreciate your opinion that it was "realistic and believable". That's so sad, but also, encouraging, that we've come so far and that NASA, as in the film, had a role in the civilizing of our race relations and mutual respect. David, I pray that you're well. This article yahoo.com/news/spacecraft-survives-unprecedented-trip-between-saturn-rings-154244185.htmlmentions the planned final dive of Cassini in September. Can we pencil in an RSR interview for the week before? I'd love to discuss Saturn, the Cassini mission, and your recollections from JPL. Thanks guys! - Bob Enyart co-host RealScienceRadio.com 1-800-8Enyart rsr.org
* Thank you David Coppedge and Rob Carter: Real Science Radio thanks former JPL systems lead, David Coppedge, for arranging this historic interview for RSR. And we thank CMI's biologist Dr. Robert Carter for his great Henry Richter interview in the current issue of Creation magazine.
* Planet Mercury Leaves NASA Jaw-Dropping Shocked: Mercury's density is far beyond what evolutionary accretion could produce. From its pull on NASA's 1974 Mariner space probe, we learned of Mercury's great density, unachievable by the now falsified nebular hypothesis. So as they do with most of the planets, Big Bang proponents including theoretical physicists (with the emphasis on the theoretical, as in the RSR interview with Lawrence Krauss), appeal to catastrophism, whereby first Mercury formed in the traditional way claimed through the condensing swirling nebula (which Isaac Newton evaluated as impossible via gravity), but then a planet-level collision ejected all the light matter off of Mercury and left just the heavy stuff. Really.
* Magnetism: The claim that Mercury is four billion years old led BB proponents to predict that it would be a dead (so to speak), inert rock having no magnetic field. But in 1974, by the scientific leadership of American hero and scientist Dr. Henry Richter, NASA's Mariner 10 spacecraft measured Mercury's magnetic field and provided hard data contradicting that fundamental evolutionary assumption. Then in 2008, NASA's Messenger craft measured the field's strength as significantly decreased, in only those few decades, which again contradicted their theory. Then in 2011, Messenger orbited the planet, and confirmed a startling (to old-earthers) 8% decrease since 1974. So, as with the Earth's rapidly decaying magnetic field, if Mercury were billions of years old, planet-wide features like it's magnetism would have reached stasis and not demonstrate such rapid change. See rsr.org/mercury for more!
* Weakening Magnetic Field and Carbon-14 Dating: As reported on rsr.org/14c, the University of Maryland geophysicist Daniel Lathrop stated that, "over the last 150 years or so, the Earth’s magnetic field has declined in strength about ten percent..." And as Dr. Richter stated on today's program, a stronger magnetic field thousands of years ago would result in production of fewer 14c atoms, which would in turn result in older-than-actual 14c dates, and that analysis from, again, the NASA scientist who launched America's first satellite, who oversaw development of the scientific equipment used on the first lunar missions, and who played an important role in the early discovery of the Van Allen radiation belt. By the way, Dr. Richter also wrote the NASA publication Space Measurements Survey: Instruments and Spacecraft covering the great period in the history of science from October 1957 to March 1965.
* Moon Dust Argument: See Dr. Walt Brown's brief summary and then his careful analysis of how much dust should be on a four-billion year old moon. (A lot more than is there.) And see Terry Hurlbut's great article, The moon-dust argument might be valid after all. Dr. Brown's calculations are based on actual data and seriously challenges the Answers in Genesis warning that creationists should notuse the moon dust argument. On February 13, 2014, Ken Ham blogged about his great debate with Bill Nye and listed moon dust among "outdated or discredited" arguments. For years, Real Science Radio has been calling for AiG and other young-earth ministries (who have our love and respect) to either update their decades-old argument to show the public, if they can, where Dr. Brown's assembled data and mathematical calculations are in error, or they should remove moon dust from their "do not use" list. Or, preferably, they themselves should resume using this powerful argument for a young moon!
2015 AiG Update: In July we noticed that AiG has removed moon dust from their Arguments to Avoid article. As we've long said, we respect and love Ken Ham, all of AiG, their fabulous Creation Museum, and that we're praying for God's blessing on their enormously important Ark Encounter! So while we could call them and ask, like them (and like everyone), we're all so busy! :) So until we hear otherwise, we'll leave it at this: We're hoping that removing moon dust from AiG's Arguments to Avoid list was intentional.
* First an Atheist Caller Talks to NASA's Dr. Gold: Welcome to a special edition of Real Science Radio. An atheist caller, Forrest from Hawaii, had previously claimed that he had spoken to a NASA scientist Dr. Thomas Gold, who had personally told him that NASA had no concern about too much dust on the moon. Forrest wanted to use this information to discredit Bob Enyart's account of NASA designing the Lunar Module with large "feet" to prevent it from sinking into dust on the moon.
* Secondly Retired Engineer Bob Ball Reports His Research & Personal Recollection: Long-time friend of BEL and retired computer engineer Bob Ball from Indiana confirmed through his own research and independent recollection, NASA's serious, though unwarranted, concern in the 1960s that the moon would hold a tremendous amount of dust (because they believed it would have been collecting dust for billions of years, an age, and therefore, a concern, that young-earth creationists would dispute). Ball further recounted that this concern was promoted by NASA's own Dr. Thomas Gold himself, the very man our caller Forrest says that he had spoken to, who allegedly claimed that NASA had no such concern, and especially not when they designed the Lunar Lander.
* Atheist Forrest Calls Back: Forrest states that he did not accept Bob Ball's report that Dr. Thomas Gold was the very astronomer who most promoted the unnecessary concern over moon dust.
* Next Listener Darrell Birkey Quotes NASA: Birkey, of Goshen, Indiana called in to quote from NASA's own website, which states, "astronomer Thomas Gold asserted, however, that the apparently smooth areas on the moon were likely to be covered with a layer of fine dust several meters thick, raising the prospect that the lunar module might sink out of sight..."
So NASA's own historical account (it's own revisionist footnote notwithstanding) agrees with what Bob Enyart surmised on the air, refuting Forrest's first specific criticism of BEL. For NASA itself states, "Spacecraft engineers at Houston's Manned Spacecraft Center, meanwhile, in spite of their real need for this information [how much dust] in designing the lunar landing module, had to go ahead without it [without that data]." That is, NASA was designing the Lunar Module prior to its Ranger and Surveyor missions discovering that the depth of dust on the moon was negligible. So NASA gave the lunar lander large "feet" because they were pressed for time (to fulfill John Kennedy's dream of reaching the moon by the end of the decade) and so they designed the landing features so as to prevent the craft from sinking in dust.
* NASA's Burke & Richter Discuss Moon Dust: The Smithsonian Channel and Real Science Radio have aired interviews with leading NASA scientists documenting the moon dust concern. Henry Richer corrected BEL's mistaken atheist caller (see above) who had been insisting that NASA never feared that the moon might be covered with meters of dust. However, Dr.Richter recalled for RSR the invalid but great concern, arising out of the old-earth worldview, that the Lunar Lander might sink out of site into dust that would have accumulated on the surface of the moon over its alleged billions of years. Additionally, this 3-minute audio excerpt, courtesy of the Smithsonian Channel's Space Voyages: Into the Unknown, presents another NASA scientist, James Burke, explaining that the Surveyor Mission proved that a vehicle could land on the Moon without sinking deep into the dust that evolutionary scientists feared may have been there. Dr. Burke was project manager for the Ranger missions (which preceded Surveyor), and Roger Launius, also heard on this audio clip, is the curator for the Smithsonian's National Air and Space Museum. Determining how much dust had accumulated on the lunar surface was one of the primary goals of the Surveyor program which eventually landed seven robotic craft on the moon. As Burke said, "If Surveyor had sunk in out of sight, then of course there would have been a different course of events." For, contrary to biblical creationism, the evolutionary old-earth mindset had led NASA to fear that the moon may be covered in dust even perhaps dozens of feet deep. See more at rsr.org/nasa-feared-deep-moon-dust.
* Dishonorable Mention of Werner von Braun: Tragically, the creationist father of rocket science never apologized nor even acknowledged wrongdoing for making weapons for the NAZIs. (Source: Google.) It's easy to say and harder to do yet von Braun should have prefered death. Instead, he pursued his scientific dreams with the resources provided by Hitler. Dr. Richter in 2017 or so being interviewed on a small radio station was asked and answered that von Braun, NASA's founder, had apologized for collaborating with the NAZIs. After a private conversation with Henry, in his next radio interview somewhere in the U.S. northwest (which Bob phoned into as a caller after Henry had invited him to listen in), the RSR crew was thankful that when again asked about von Braun, Dr. Richter went out of his way to state that he knew of no public record of a von Braun apology.
* RSR Answers Specific Moon Landing Hoax Claims (collected from the Conspiracy Theory program and elsewhere) - Can't see stars in various photos: The bright foreground and dark background composition of such photos results in a photographic effect whereby dimmer objects, such as stars in the sky, do not appear. - Craters on moon may actually be from Area 51: "Conspiracy Theory" aired prior to Google Earth displaying Area 51. Conspiracy theorists have not since not linked to, nor otherwise documented there, the alleged terrestrial moon landscapes. - No engine noise: On Star Trek TV shows, there is a quiet hum from the engines during typical scenes that take place on the ship. However, the audio from the Lunar Lander is very quiet and an astronaut even mentioned how quiet it was. Sound waves don't propagate in space, so while on earth engine noise will bounce back off the air surrounding a car on the highway, that effect doesn't exist in space. The only engine noise would have been transferred through the craft's structure, which could certainly be audible, but NASA explains that the all important insulation on the craft would significantly dampen that sound. - No crater in the dust from Lunar Module landings: Photos and videos don't show landing craters below modules, even though NASA artwork previously predicted such craters would result from blown away dust. Of course, the depth of any expected crater would originally be influenced by NASA's fear of deep dust. (See above and NASA feared deep dust on the moon.) - Missing Lunar Module in photo: A photograph exists of a distinctive moonscape without the lunar module, and then another with the same moonscape that includes the lunar module in the photo. When the module blasts off, it leaves its base, so the first photo seems to have been taken prior to the astronauts landing on the moon. The answer lies in the hills of the moonscape being very far away and because there is no atmosphere on the moon, the image has great clarity giving the impression that the hills are nearby. Then, when the camera is moved just a hundred yards or so to one side and snaps a photo in the same direction, the Lander is no longer in the frame, but the background is hardly changed, because of its distance. Careful examination of the famous photos does show the parallax however. A YouTube video has a great example and actual photos showing that parallax. - No exhaust plume on leaving moon: The Conspiracy Theory "documentary" claims that there was no exhaust and that the Lunar Module appears to have been lifted off its base by a cable. However the A11-FSOTM documentary shows the blast off with debris flying and the flag being thrown.
* Dr. John West on Totalitarian Science: Discovery Institute senior fellow Dr. John West, author of Darwin Day in America: How our politics and culture have been dehumanized in the name of science, speaks with Real Science Radio host Bob Enyart about the rise of totalitarian science. As the culture increasingly looks to science for moral guidance, America is in a moral free fall, for the scientific laws have no moral component and do not even use the words right and wrong.
* ID Interviews on RSR: Hear also Paul Nelson, Stephen Meyer, Jonathan Witt, Lad Allen, and Richard Sternberg.
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* July 2015 What Pluto Actually Looks Like: The actual photos of Pluto from NASA's New Horizons mission will help make it obvious to thousands more people that the nebular hypothesis theory of origins is not helpful in understanding our solar system (or any other solar system for that matter). On today's program, Bob and Fred conclude RSR's List of Problems with Solar System Formation and they air an audio clip from 
