* As Creation Science Excels, Denominations Back Off Genesis: Real Science Friday co-hosts Fred Williams and Bob Enyart discuss an article in Ken Ham's Answers magazine on Christian denominations like the Assemblies of God and the Presbyterian Church of America that are tolerating, or even promoting, a rejection of the biblical creation account of a young earth and the global flood. Bob and Fred talk about the billions of years of missing igneous rock, billions of years of missing nickel from meteorites, etc., all missing if the earthy actually were billions of years old.

* The Bible and the Value of Pi: The Bible's alternative spelling for the Hebrew word for "circumference" used in First Kings presents the value of pi accurately to four digits.

* Concluding RSF's 2011 List of Not So Old Things: Real Science Friday co-hosts Fred Williams and Bob Enyart complete their annual tradition by updating their classic List of Not So Old Things! See last week's RSR show for Part 1 and a great list with photos and descriptions of not-so-old things!

Today's Resource: Have you browsed through our Science Department in the KGOV Store? Check out especially Walt Brown's In the Beginning and Bob's interviews with this great scientist in Walt Brown Week! You'll also love Dr. Guillermo Gonzalez' Privileged Planet (clip), and Illustra Media's Unlocking the Mystery of Life (clip)! You can consider our BEL Science Pack; Bob Enyart's Age of the Earth Debate; and the superb kids' radio programming, Jonathan Park: The Adventure Begins! And Bob strongly recommends that you subscribe to CMI's tremendous Creation magazine!

* Getting to the Root with a Deist: In this special edition of Real Science Radio, Bob Enyart talks with classical deist Lewis Loflin of BristolBlog.com. Lewis believes that Old Testament teaching that God will judge human beings for their immorality, but:
- he rejects a literal interpretation of the Genesis creation days as 24 hour periods
- he rejects that Genesis teaches that the earth is only thousands of years old
- he rejects the Genesis account of a global flood.
So Bob and Lewis agree to begin by discussing the age of the earth, and then on another show, discuss the New Testament and the Resurrection of Jesus Christ!

* "I'll See Your One Expert, and Raise You Thirty": Lewis mentions a Hebrew scholar who believes the text of Genesis does not indicate a young earth. So Bob said, "Lewis, I see your expert, and raise you thirty." And then Bob quoted the  Professor of Hebrew at Oxford, James Barr, who wrote in 1984, “so far as I know, there is no professor of Hebrew or Old Testament at any world-class university who does not believe that the writer(s) of Genesis 1-11 intended to convey to their readers the ideas that: the figures contained in the Genesis genealogies provided by simple addition a chronology from the beginning of the world up to later stages in the biblical story.”

Annual Tradition: We update this every year, so for the latest, just visit realscienceradio.com/list.

* RSF's 2011 LIST OF NOT SO OLD THINGS: Real Science Friday co-hosts Fred Williams and Bob Enyart observe their annual tradition by updating their classic List of Not So Old Things! [The most up-to-date version of this is always available at KGOV.com/list.] This growing list of scientific observations contains items that old-earthers were unprepared for, and many other items that even old-earth geologists now admit did not form over millions of years, but rapidly. Many of these scientific finds demand a re-evaluation of supposed million-year ages:

* "65-million" Year Old T. rex Soft Tissue: Montana State University found soft tissue in a supposedly 65-million year old Tyrannosaurus Rex thighbone, original biological material that even remained soft and flexible with transparent blood vessels containing red blood cells!  See photos here and at MS-NBC, an enlarged photo, original 2007 Nat'l Geographic report, 2009 Nat'l Geo. confirmation, the excavation site in Montana, and a forum discussion.

* Atheist Staks Rosch of DangerousTalk.net: talks with Bob about morality and God. Bob posted his pre-show notes, even though they're not edited for publication, below for those interested. This program is a special edition of Real Science Radio.

* On Origin of Language: Staks rejects the Bible's account of God as the originator of languages and apparently believes the evolutionary story of its origin and offered this as a challenge to which Bob referred to his recent Real Science Radio program on the Origin of Language showing for example that world-renowned linguists who are evolutionists have proved Darwin wrong in his belief that some languages are primitive, and that animal barks and grunts can be shown to be steps toward language, and that evidence of language evolution would exist. Instead, Bob and Fred Williams present the conclusions of some of the world's leading linguists such as Edward Sapir and MIT's Noam Chomsky that primitive languages do not exist and no evidence of the evolution of language has been found! Human language appears suddenly in human history and as such, is another great argument against evolution and in favor of the Bible account of creation.

* BEL Audio from 1997 Confirmed Now By Richard Dawkins: Real Science Friday co-hosts Fred Williams and Bob Enyart play audio from an old Bob Enyart Live program in which Bob claimed that in Richard Dawkins' books, he just assumed evolution and he didn't give evidence. A dozen years later, Dawkins admits that in all of his previous books, he assumed, but did not provide evidence. That vindicates Bob Enyart's direct statement of a 1997 caller who was recommending that Bob read Dawkins (which Bob had done, but which the caller had not).

* Real Science Radio Focuses its Beetle Eye on Sponges: Co-hosts Fred Williams with Creation Research Society, and Bob Enyart, on this episode of Real Science Radio draw from the January 2011 issue of Creation magazine to discuss:

* If Chimps are 95% Human, Sponges are 70%: The sequencing of the Great Barrier Reef sponge genome shows, according to the co-author's interview with AFP in Scientists find sea sponges share human genes, "that sea sponges share almost 70 percent of human genes!" The study, reported in the peer-reviewed journal Nature, Sponge genome goes deep, goes beyond it's factual findings of human-to-sponge overlap to speculate on a period of evolution after sponges that, "Nearly one-third of the genetic alterations that distinguish humans from their last common ancestor with single-celled organisms took place during this period."

* 20,500 Human Genes; 18,000 Sponge Genes: While humans have about 20,500 genes and simple worms have 20,000, it turns out that sponges, according to Nature, have "more than 18,000 individual genes." Thus "the sponge genome represents a diverse toolkit." Exactly says RSR! As Nature reports, "according to Douglas Erwin, a palaeobiologist at the Smithsonian, such complexity indicates that sponges must have descended from a more advanced ancestor than previously suspected. 'This flies in the face of what we think of early metazoan evolution,' says Erwin."

So, What's This Doing In There? Nature also says about sponge DNA: "The genome also includes analogues of genes that, in organisms with a neuromuscular system, code for muscle tissue and neurons." Those Darwinists who hold to the circular logic of methodological naturalism do not have the intellectual liberty to consider that perhaps the Intelligent Designer devised a genetic toolbox from which He could pull out of the same basic blueprint tools for making sponges, kangaroos, and people.

* Real Science Radio Takes On Nature Magazine's 15 Gems of Evolution: Co-hosts Fred Williams with Creation Research Society, and Bob Enyart, on this episode of Real Science Radio talk through all fifteen of Nature magazine's list of their claimed strong evidences for evolution. And thanks to Casey Luskin for his podcasts at ID The Future with his great rebuttal of the 15 gems!

* See the Evolution of Whales: at Fred William's website, EvolutionFairytale.com! Post-show note: See Dr. Carl Werner interview on video the scientist who re-constructed a proposed whale ancestor and gets an admission that there was no evidence for the dramatic "whale like" features he added and which he now discounts. Call BEL at 1-800-8Enyart to order the fabulous science DVD by Dr. Werner, Evolution: The Grand Experiment Vol. I.

* Welcome to the REAL Science Friday: covering symbiotic relationships, diatoms, snowflakes, amazing water molecules, the relationship between faith and reason, and the latest on Mitochondrial Eve! Co-hosts Fred Williams with Creation Research Society, and Bob Enyart, on this episode of Real Science Radio draw from the latest Answers magazine to discuss symbiosis including the relationships between Yucca moths and plants, clown fish and sea anemones, and cleaning fish and sharks!

* Mitochondrial Eve: Bob and Fred also review Ann Gibbon's 6,000-year age for Mitochondrial Eve, the mother from whom all human beings have descended, bringing that saga up-to-date. Here's how it goes. By admittedly including chimpanzee DNA among their data, evolutionists initially calculated that Mitochondrial Eve, the one woman from whom all living humans have descended, lived as long ago as 200,000 years. But in 1998, as widely reported including by Science magazine, dropping the chimp data and using actual human mutation rates, "Eve... the mother of all living" (Gen. 3:20), was now dated as only six thousand years old! See Ann Gibbon's Science article, "Calibrating the Mitochondrial Clock," the journal Nature, Creation.com's "A shrinking date for Eve," and Walt Brown's assessment. Expectedly, evolutionists have found a way to reject their own unbiased finding (the conclusion contrary to their self-interest) by returning to their original method of using circular reasoning, as reported in the American Journal of Human Genetics, "calibrating against recent evidence for the divergence time of humans and chimpanzees," to reset their mitochondrial clock back to 200,000 years. (See also Bob's article, Why Was Canaan Cursed?)

* Why were Dinosaurs Buried with Clams? Co-hosts Fred Williams with Creation Research Society, and Bob Enyart, on this episode of Real Science Friday draw from a recent news report that Bob and Cheryl noticed while in traveling in the Rocky Mountains with their three youngest boys. An unexpected fossil dig at Snowmass is producing a jumble of mammoth, mastodon, Ice Age bison, and giant ground sloth! And clams. Yes, clams. Captain Kirk's Denver Museum of Nature and Science counted (on one hand) the number of animal species excavated in Snowmass, but they missed the number by one. Not surprisingly, they ignored the lowly clam, as evolutionists like to downplay the clams (many fully articulated showing rapid burial) that are often found with dinosaur fossils and the remains of other land animals). For example, Dinosaur National Monument could be called Clam National Monument, since more clams are found there than dinosaurs. So, what were all those dinosaurs (including a nearby Allosaur excavated by a home-school family) doing swimming with so many clams?

* Swinging Gibbons: Bob and Fred also talk about the latest Answers magazine on swinging Gibbons, and tonight's showing at Rocky Mountain Creation Fellowship of Darwin's Dilemma taking the Cambrian Explosion to it's logical, microbiological conclusion! (You can order this excellent DVD by calling 1-800-8Enyart.)