"This was my worst debate in twenty years of hosting a talk radio show. Aside from being insufficiently prepared, I was also not prepared for Ibish to simply make things up and even lie as boldly as he did. One example was when I mentioned that Palestinian textbooks do not even show Israel on the map of the Middle East. Ibish said that while this may have been true in the past, it is not true of modern textbooks. The next day along with a friend of BEL and another frequent traveler to Israel, Art Risley, we sent $200 (US) to Israel to a friend to purchase a brand new Palestinian textbook for us. When it arrived, we confirmed that the book did not show the State of Israel on it's maps of the Middle East." -Bob Enyart